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[HSM]

File Name: Catacomb (Stern 1981)

File Submitter: HSM

File Submitted: 25 Jan 2020

File Category: VPX/VPinMAME Recreations

Author(s): HSM
mfuegemann
Manufacturer: Alvin G
Year: 1981
Permission to MOD?: Yes, without approval

A VPX conversion of mfuegemann 's VP9 Table.
 
I had a lot of hours into this before I realized that 32assassin had already released a VPX conversion of this table, but I was to far along to quit.
A portion of code was borrowed from his table to run mfuegemann's dB2s file correctly.  STAT is credited for adding this code.
 
Enjoy!

Click here to download this file

[STAT]

Thanks, i did something to this in the Past, but also the final Code was done by mfuegemann too !

[Thalamus]

Does'nt hurt to have two different copies of this machine, so thank you.

[Albert]

Exceptional rubber physics here. On a lot of other tables the ball bounces on a rubber like a wet hay sack on concrete. Here the ball behaves like in a real pingame with a new set of rubbers. Great!

[htamas]

Thank you, I like this version. It plays well and looks good.

 

For some reason I can't get the backglass to play the ball on the secondary playfield after a drain., and I remember this used to work in VP9 if I'm not mistaken.

For the record, I have the same problem with 32assassin's table, except that there the additional playfield is not even showing up, like with this version.

I wonder what am I missing...

[StevOz]

Really liking it nice gameplay and looks great+

 

My DT POV settings attached for those that might like a slightly different slant on things.

 cat.zip   418bytes   7 downloads

 

 cat.jpg   171.5KB   0 downloads

[STAT]

I think there should be much "IDs" for the Ball Animations in the directb2s - if you could check the VPXScript, you will see something ( ... is wrong or even all is fine ),

sorry, i cant check that at the moment, away from home ...

[mfuegemann]

Hi,

 

the Ball-IDs are in to control the B2S snippets, that should be visible at a specific ball position. It is not possible to move a snippet in B2S, so we have to add lots of snippets.

The current number is a tradeoff between chunky movement and a PITA placing process in the B2S backglass.

 

Michael

[bolt]

Thank you HSM.

[vogliadicane]

Thank you, I like it a lot! And I agree with Albert on the rubber physics, very good!

[jpsalas]

The rubber physics are pretty standard, but the playfield friction is really low, much lower than what I use That's what gives those small jumps when the ball hits the rubbers.

[StevOz]

The rubber physics are pretty standard, but the playfield friction is really low, much lower than what I use That's what gives those small jumps when the ball hits the rubbers.

Cool thanks for the informative post. So it's not new rubbers, just a highly polished playfield. I have always felt there really should be next to no playfield friction with clean balls and a well polished / maintained machine.

[naeromagus]

Thanks for this. Really like this one

[naboodiver]

I have looked at the script but I don't see a way to disable the playfield "backglass" popup.    The B2S works fine.     Any help would be appreciated.    

[mfuegemann]

Hi Naboo,

 

in my VP9 table there is a sub called "ActivateBackBox" that is called from the solenoid once the backglass animation starts. There all needed walls drop up or get visible and the gravity is changed. This should be similiar in the VPX version.

I need this for the animated B2S too, as I copy the ball movement from the VP table to the B2S backglass. In the B2S version of the VP9 table, the artificial backglass playfield is moved outside the visible area, though.

 

If You have any further questions, please PM me.

 

Michael

[naboodiver]

Thanks Michael...     So if I understand, I can comment out the sub call to "ActivateBackBox" in the script or I can move the artificial backglass off the playfield area visable area.   

 

Thanks for the help.

 

Tim

[mfuegemann]

Hi,

 

if You want to keep the animated backglass functionality (Sub BallPosTimer_Timer), it is best to move the objects just a bit to the side, so they are not visible.

In the VP9 table they are on layer 6, so it is easy to select them. The relative ball position is calculated against the trigger "BOrigin" at the lower right corner of the emulated backbox area.

So make sure this one is moved too.

 

Michael

[naboodiver]

Got it...   Thanks again Michael.    BTW.   Love your tables.     I appreciate you sharing them.

[Newer2]

The Ball Physiks are not so good, is there maybe a update Ready?

[onedevotee75]

The Ball Physiks are not so good, is there maybe a update Ready?

 

Look at vpu, there is a fresh new, fantasic updated version available

https://vpuniverse.c...omb-stern-1981/