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[roxy]

I think my current problem is with my GeForce GTX 285 card. In System Properties (Windows XP) only my GTX 275 card shows up as working and GTX 285 shows as "this device can not start (code 10)."

Based on help graciously provided by VP Forums people over a year ago on a similar problem, it suggests to me, of near zero computer know how, that the card needs to be reseated and cable connections checked. Or the card is shot. Is that a correct diagnosis ?

There is a design flaw in the cabinet that makes getting to the card extremely difficult - the PF monitor needs to be lifted out, etc. Before I embark on such a daunting task it would be helpful to know my probability of succeeding. I have noticed colored dashes on the dark PF and a black and white grid that appears briefly at start up. Does this suggest anything helpful about the condition of the GTX 285 card ?
Thank you for your help.

[batch]

Take a look at this topic, roxy

 

http://www.vpforums....ideo +card +vpx

Edited by batch, 18 September 2017 - 06:42 PM.

[BobAlbright]

Just looking at the numbers on your video cards, they're probably pretty old. In my questions bout upgrading that batch referred to, I learned hat its best to run from one good card. My upgrade stuff arrived and I'm waiting for my computer guru friend to help me install the new graphics card , more ram, and windows 7. I'm not sure if it was mentioned in that thread ...an I'm assuming thus info is factual, that XP cannot do two video outputs from one card. So, you might want to do win7 too. I know a lot of guys are using win10 too.

[Nemo]

Nvidia's display driver for XP does not support surround vision so you are limited to just 2 screens from one card.

That 285 is ancient now, and i remember that topic from a year ago well, i think it's time to update the whole setup

or clean the current one as i'm expecting a problem with the gpu. Could be dust buildup, or bad capacitor's or it could

even be your motherboard and/or tv screen.

 

After all those electronics are getting old, and the one thing i have learned from this hobby is that you always keep updating

and  improving on the setup........a vpin is never done.

[roxy]

Thank you for your helpful responses. I would love to upgrade my cabinet but, alas, I have not the talent and no guru to help.

Plus the cabinet design flaw requires a lot of work removing many parts, including the 40 inch PF monitor, just to get to the guts of the machine. With those limitations in mind, what options do I have ?

[BobAlbright]

Doing my hardware install tonight and will try to reinstall the vp program and associated files tomorrow. I'm excited..and nervous

[batch]

Roxy, go to the "Other Discussions" Forum

 

People are asking or explaining how to make cabs

[roxy]

Good luck Bob ! I hope it goes well and it's a great success.

Batch, thank you for you suggestion. I appreciate that you greatly overestimate my abilities but building a cabinet is beyond me.

[BobAlbright]

Unfortunately all did not go well. The new ram and video card installed ok and working properly. Win 7 install went ok. But...something went wrong trying to install drivers for the wifi adapter. So we could not access internet to activate the Win7 license. So I thought I'd install the all in one of vp. Well..I see that it also needs Internet access to install Net Framework. So I'm down till my friend gets back in town. Bummer

[roxy]

Update.
I tried reseating the GTX 285 video card and nothing changed. It still shows as "this device can not start (code 10)." Should I take that to mean the card is dead ? The monitors work, the cabinet guts are clean and "appear" to be ok. If I replace the card, assuming everything else is ok, will my machine come back to life ?

Amazon has a new one for $100 (XFX GX285XZWFF Geforce GTX 285 1GB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 (2.0v) Video Card Retail). I believe it to be the same as my current one. I realize that's not the best solution but it would allow me to continue playing the games I have.
As always, your advice regarding this approach would be very helpful. Thank you.

[STV]

If you don't mind throwing out $100 then it's a good option.  Might fix it.   Although, I'd consider putting that $100 towards a new machine.  I ran a GTX275  back in 2009.

 

And yes, you're not a hardware guy but since you've managed to open things and reseat the card, you're half way to being one.  

[Thalamus]

STV is right. When horses get to old, they are often helped over to the other side. You should do the humane thing for you computer too

 

Look at upgrad-kits. It will cost you a bit more, yeah - but, when you're finished you'll be able to play VPX and I can tell you - it is worth it !

[TT11]

Roxy, I run a "semi modern" AMD Radeon R9 270X Sapphire Vapor-X 2GB DDR5 card with a Core i3 4160 CPU under Hyperpin/Windows XP and everything runs off the one card under Hyperpin and WinXP 32 Bit except some of the the latest Stern VPX LE tables like TWD..... Don't worry - if $100 fixes your issue and you are happy - go with it.

[roxy]

I agree with all of you and I appreciate your suggestions. It is a dilemma. Upgrade the system or replace the video card ? The upgrade option, for the reasons previously mentioned, does not seem viable so replacing the card is really the only choice.

Thank you STV for your support. $100 towards a complete new cabinet is a drop in the bucket and that's if I could find a reliable place to obtain one. I appreciate you implying I am half way there. My Dad use to jokingly say I wasn't yet a wit, just a half wit. My computer skills really are minimal. But I do enjoy playing pinball, so I'll keep on trying.

Thalamus, I enjoyed your comparison. I am 75 years old and my wife, at times, has suggested doing the humane thing for me. 😃 I would like to be current and take advantage of VP 10, etc, but my personal ability to do the upgrade does not exist.

TT11, I like your encouragement. I don't understand the equipment listed but you give me reason to be optimistic.

I went ahead and ordered the new GTX 285 card. In about a week I'll install it and report back. Thank you for guiding the way.

[Thalamus]

@roxy : thank you for you excellent comment - this is the 4th time someone almost made me pee myself laughing from this community.

 

I wish I lived close to you and I would of course do the install for free.

[Rajo Joey]

I think, it's a driver problem. Which driver is used? Do you download and install the latest driver for your card from the nvidia homepage?
http://www.nvidia.de...ex.aspx?lang=de
What do you see in the device manager? Are there more entries? Are sure you see all devices in the manager. To see old devices set a system variable:
http://www.winfaq.de...p?h=tip1220.htm (it's in german language).
If there are old entries, delete them. Also delete the entry for the gtx285. Reboot and install the nvidia driver. And cross fingers... :-)

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[Drybonz]

My advice... don't blow $100 on a video card that outdated... waste of money.  Might as well flush your money down the toilet.  Send it back.

 

$160 to $200 will get you a good, modern gaming card.  Spend or save up the extra bucks.  Assuming your old card isn't toast and you get it running with new drivers, or a replacement, etc... it's not going to be the end of your problems.

 

Don't mean to sound harsh... just hate to see you waste money.  Hope you get it worked out.

[FreeLunch]

Unfortunately he's running XP, so he would need a compatible video card. An upgrade to your PC is really the best way to go if you can. If I was a little more confident in my ability to tinker with PCs, I'd come help you upgrade assuming you live in Sacramento, since I live in Concord. I have a friend who fixes PCs for a living, he may be willing to assist for a fair fee. If that sounds like something you're interested in, feel free to message me. 

[roxy]

I appreciate your opinions what ever form they may take. Without your suggestions I would only have myself to listen to and I am wrong most of the time. Especially when it comes to the inner workings of a computer.

My cabinet is not connected to the internet. No hardware alterations have been made in my set up for the 5 years I have owned it except for reseating video cards.🙄 No drivers have been updated. Is that a problem ? It was operating fine one day and not the next. Could the symptoms I've mentioned in this thread be attributed to a driver issue ?
Thank you for your help.

[Thalamus]

In theory yes. But, unlikely. I'm more prone to that the graphics card or some other component in your machine is the culprit. I have a computer upstairs that also is failing me from time to time. My screen just turns off and I have to restart. It is getting quite old now so I'm considering buying a upgrade kit for it. A new motherboard, cpu and ram. Tempted to upgrade my cabinet to a Nvidia 1080 and then move the 750 I have there ... upstairs. It could maybe me fixed with a reinstall of windows. But, if that works. I'm still stuck with this old computer

 

For your sake I hope it is the graphics card, if you say you've already ordered a replacement.