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[4EVERBOOTS]

I have windows 7 OS. By installing a different graphic card may it affects any of the visual pinball versionss? (VP9, VP10, etc.). I have an Intel® G45/G43 Express Chipset.

[GSGregg]

I have windows 7 OS. By installing a different graphic card may it affect any of the visual pinball versions ? (VP9, VP10, etc.). I have an Intel® G45/G43 Express Chipset.

A little fun with adjectives;  you won't be installing a different card, but rather an additional card; the onboard GMA X4500 (or X4500HD) will stay on the motherboard along with the G43 or G45 chipset, although it will probably be disabled while the add-on card is enabled. Have you chosen a card yet, or determined what your price range is?

 

Installing a video card shouldn't have any effect other than making it play better.    

 

Also, regarding computer specs; was your rig bought complete (Dell, Hewlitt-Packard, or other) or built from scratch? It would be good to know what CPU, motherboard, BIOS perhaps, and power supply you have, and if you bought it assembled, we can look that stuff up using the model number (System Information leaves some things out).

 

 

Gregg

[allknowing2012]

Well you might have to change your screenres.txt file and such .. 

[Drybonz]

 

I have windows 7 OS. By installing a different graphic card may it affect any of the visual pinball versions ? (VP9, VP10, etc.). I have an Intel® G45/G43 Express Chipset.

we can look that stuff up using the model number (System Information leaves some things out).

 

or run CPUz

[4EVERBOOTS]

The PC was bought complete GSGregg. It's a Gateway.Bought it assembled. Here ar the spec's of the pc:   Manufacturer: Gateway.    Model: SX2802    Processor: Pentium® Dual Core CPU  E5300 @ 2.60 GHz  Memory: 6.00 GB     System type: 64-bit Operating System. That's the info GSGregg.

I'm not really sure how to do that Allknowing2012. Maybe with time i'll learn bits of everything regarding computers. 

Hello Drybonz, thank for anwer the topic. I may need to learn how to run the CPU thing. I'm not a computer wizard like earlier in another post.

btw Allknowing2012, i've seen your tables, they are absoultely amazing. 

"Installing a video card shouldn't have any effect other than making it play better.     ". Besides the one the computer has?

[Drybonz]

Hey man... just go here and download   http://www.cpuid.com...ares/cpu-z.html

 

It's super well-known and free... totally safe.  You can get all your computer stats in detail at the click of a button.  Always useful to have this on-hand if you are updating or a bunch of other reasons.

 

As far as a video card... you will definitely want one.  They are all pretty standard now, the big thing is not getting one that is too physically big to fit in your case.  If your main concern is running VP you will not need the newest most expensive card... anything in the 760 range or higher is going to do you just fine.  Right now you have what is called on-board video, which is not very good.  It means the video is controlled by a weak chip on your motherboard.

Edited by Drybonz, 16 May 2016 - 06:23 PM.

[4EVERBOOTS]

Very interesting info Drybonz. I'm going to download the CPU-Z program and thanks a lot. And about the size of a graphic card you are right. They may comes in many sizes. S0 i'll have to choose the right one.

[4EVERBOOTS]

Which button should i click? The setup or zip button?

I guess i will go for the setup one.

Ok it's done.

[Drybonz]

Setup if you want to install it, zip if you just want to unzip a portable version.

Very interesting info Drybonz. I'm going to download the CPU-Z program and thanks a lot. And about the size of a graphic card you are right. They may comes in many sizes. S0 i'll have to choose the right one.

 

I think they might list the dimensions on Newegg... or you can even tell which ones are smaller by looking at the screenshots.  If you don't have much space in your case try to avoid the really huge ones.  I have never run into one that didn't fit in my mid-tower, but I had one that was a real pita to get in there.

 

Something like this is probably a safe bet.  Will run VP, compact size (only one fan)... or you could spend a little more to get a 900 series.  Something similar anyway.

 

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814487024

 

I should add that I'm no expert... these are just opinions... read up some product reviews and don't take just my word for it.

Edited by Drybonz, 16 May 2016 - 08:51 PM.

[4EVERBOOTS]

ok got it.

The Evga one probably will fits on the case. One question should i removes the older graphic card or i will installs the Evga along with it?

[allknowing2012]

*if* there is a card in there .. remove .. we dont think there is one .. its just the built in video. When you plug in the cables are they going into the vertical card slots or along the side with the usb and such.

 

Which ever card you order - see what cable adapters it takes. It could a mix of dvi/hdmi/display port/mini-hdmi.  Ideally the card matches your preexisting cables and you dont need to buy adapters - or just buy new cables to have a clean cable installation. They all send the same signal regardless.

[4EVERBOOTS]

I don't think there's really a graphic card on my computer either. If so i will put one.

If not*

lol whatever

I will check out the cable adapters and stuff.

[GSGregg]

Unless I misconstrued something, 4EVERBOOTS wants to play desktop tables, at least for the time being, so such things as DB2S and screenres.txt won't come into play.....

 

Re CPU-Z: I suppose I could have mentioned that, since I have obviously done so myself   (I was a bit tired, and could have easily dropped off without remembering to post). There is one more step, after downloading and running CPU-Z, to get the banner to show up in your post signature (as does mine), but it's been quite a while since I did. Pretty sure someone here remembers, plus it's in the instructions someplace.

 

4EVERBOOTS: Gateway lumped the whole SX-2802 desktop series into one specifications table; CNet reviewed SX-2802-7, which had 6GB of DDR2-800 memory with an E5300 processor and G43 chipset, so that sounds pretty much like yours---and it's SFF (small form factor), which means that the video card you get will have to be low-profile.

 

Also, according to Gateway, you have a 220-watt power supply which may be insufficient once the vidcard is in play, especially if it has close to seven years of usage. Using the free version of Xtreme PSU Calculator, I come up with 190 watts (240 recommended) using a GTX750Ti card. Could be close.....

 

Gregg 

 

 

 

 

[GSGregg]

4EVERBOOTS;

you won't be installing a different card, but rather an additional card; the onboard...will stay on the motherboard along with the G43 or G45 chipset...

The GMA isn't a CARD, anyway, and won't come out unless it's 'removed', in which case you can't get it back

[4EVERBOOTS]

Then if i have a 220 power supply, im doomed. Will never get to play the VP10 version. But its ok, could've been worse.

And i just saw what you said GSGregg. So i would put the card along with the card it already has.

[Drybonz]

Re CPU-Z: I suppose I could have mentioned that, since I have obviously done so myself   (I was a bit tired, and could have easily dropped off without remembering to post). 

 

No worries man... I was just jumping in to help out.

[gtxjoe]

It looks like that gateway does not have room for a GTX 750TI (video card takes up two slots) and also the power supply is not a standard size, so upgrading it is not easy (Nvidia recommends a 300W power supply)

 

Edited by gtxjoe, 17 May 2016 - 02:25 AM.

[Drybonz]

Then if i have a 220 power supply, im doomed. Will never get to play the VP10 version. But its ok, could've been worse.

 

It might run but it would wreck your power supply pretty fast.  You could always upgrade that too... you can get a passable one for $50-60 and up.

 

*edit*  As gtxjoe pointed out, above, would not be able to upgrade power supply.

 

Always best to build a system, or have someone do it for you.  Gateway and Dell try to block you from upgrading so that you will buy a new system from them.

Edited by Drybonz, 17 May 2016 - 02:25 AM.

[GSGregg]

No worries man... I was just jumping in to help out.

 

Hey! The more the merrier! Now to figure how to get 4EVERBOOTS and VP10 together..... 

 

GSG

[4EVERBOOTS]

Always best to build a system, or have someone do it for you.  Gateway and Dell try to block you from upgrading so that you will buy a new system from them. LMAO very "clever" of them to do that like we don't know. And for what im seeing about the graphic card issue i guess i won't go anywhere unless i get a new computer which i won't. It's ok, will stick with VP9 all the time.Only problem i won't be able to download (and play) VP10 tables. well........But hey, you all did tried on helping me out which i'm very grateful!!!! ))

And it's ok GSGregg.Without any hurry something will comes up. ^5