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[ICPjuggla]

I'm having a problem with the future pinball drop down target's models looking correct in VP.

I understand how to convert them and import them as I have many models already converted. Every time I try and do a drop down target I can't get it to look right. It's either backwords, upside down, sideways etc. What ever I try seems not to work, anyone have the magic conversion #'s or maybe a dummy table with T2 and T3 bullseye's looking correct.

Thx in advance.... :-)

[kiwi]

ICPjuggla can post your table or a dummy table?

 

Max

Edited by kiwi, 01 June 2014 - 10:53 AM.

[unclewilly]

If you are using a target straight from fp.
To have it right side up, rotx Should be 90.
Then you can rotate it's face with objrotz.
The z setting in the position. L will adjust it up and down

If you post a table with the target in it I can adjust the model so all you will need to do is the rotx 90 and it will be sitting on the table surface at z position 0

[ICPjuggla]

Okay I'll post the dummy table in a little wile. It's been driving me nuts..

[unclewilly]

I remember the first primitive peg I imported. What a pita. I thought I would never use this crap. Now after messing with so many of them it has all kind of clicked into place for me.

I have to get a table object table together for people to use
I remember the first primitive peg I imported. What a pita. I thought I would never use this crap. Now after messing with so many of them it has all kind of clicked into place for me.

I have to get a table object table together for people to use
I remember the first primitive peg I imported. What a pita. I thought I would never use this crap. Now after messing with so many of them it has all kind of clicked into place for me.

I have to get a table object table together for people to use

[ICPjuggla]

Yes I agree it's actually pretty easy converting the models from FP to VP, well most models. The drop targets are killing me!!!

Everything on this table so far is a primitive other than the side walls and metal guilds. I haven't figured out blender yet.. lol

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[ICPjuggla]

okay here is the dummy table with the model imported and the texture.. As you will see it's not in the correct position and any settings I try don't seem to work..

 

 drop_target_test.zip   137.3KB   13 downloads

[kiwi]

I just scaled the object and moved the point of origin.
Export the object and open it with Blender to understand what I have done.
If you have any questions ask away.
In VP with TransZ, raise or lower the target.

 

Max

 

 drop_target_test.rar   134.52KB   12 downloads

[unclewilly]

Thanks kiwi. I'm not at home to help right now

[ICPjuggla]

why when I rotate the primitive dose it act funny?

 

 rotate.png   155.01KB   6 downloads

[gtxjoe]

Because the target is lying flat on its back.  Try setting  Roty = -90.  Then use Rotx value to rotate it

[ICPjuggla]

Because the target is lying flat on its back.  Try setting  Roty = -90.  Then use Rotx value to rotate it

Still didn't work. The face of the target disappeared now..

[unclewilly]

Is the texture power of 2, like 512x512

[kiwi]

Try this mesh, in the previous one there is something broken   .
Import it into VP without mirror it and without converting the textures coordinates.

 

Max

 

 droptarget-t3.rar   850bytes   3 downloads

[ICPjuggla]

it's still not working, when it is facing forward it looks correct but once rotated it starts to go funny.. 

 

hmmmmmmm...... this is really bugging me :-(

[gtxjoe]

Try using this code in the keydown subroutine.  Then push those 3 buttons to see how it rotates the primitive.  It should help you figure out the right thing to do or just confuse you more

 

If keycode = PlungerKey Then

Plunger.PullBack

Primitive1.Rotx = Primitive1.Rotx + 10

End If

 

If keycode = LeftFlipperKey Then

LeftFlipper.RotateToEnd

PlaySound "FlipperUp",0,1,-0.1,0.25

Primitive1.Roty = Primitive1.Roty + 10

End If

    

If keycode = RightFlipperKey Then

RightFlipper.RotateToEnd

Primitive1.Rotz = Primitive1.Rotz + 10

PlaySound "FlipperUp",0,1,0.1,0.25

End If

[kiwi]

With the texture "droptarget-t3.bmp" flipped vertically, it works correctly.

 

Max

[mukuste]

okay here is the dummy table with the model imported and the texture.. As you will see it's not in the correct position and any settings I try don't seem to work..

 

drop_target_test.zip

 

This mesh looks like it has its normals pointing in the wrong direction/wrong triangle winding order. You can actually fix this by changing the X scale from 2 to -2, although I don't recommend this, it's better to get the mesh right in the first place.

 

Did you choose to "Convert coordinate system" when importing the mesh into VP? I think that one should always answer Yes to this, unless perhaps FP outputs buggy mesh files.

 

A question to everyone who has experience using primitives: do you answer Yes or No to this prompt?

Edited by mukuste, 01 June 2014 - 07:47 PM.

[unclewilly]

here you go.  i did this fast so you need to adjust the texture a bit to remove that one black line.

I can send you the uv layout if you need it.

 

you can see its normal in all views.

 

if you set all the scales x/y/z to 100 it should be the correct size.

 

just copy the model to your table

 

 DTTable.png   223.09KB   4 downloads

if you want to rotate it use the objrotz number

Attached Files

•  DropTarget Object.vpt   332KB   15 downloads

[ICPjuggla]

Thank you to all that have helped with this situation.. :-)

 

I'm sure at some point it would of come up eventually, the question is how the hell did you figure that out so fast UW.. :-) Awesome stuff man, thank you...

 

problem now is the texture is blurry once scaled and positioned... sigh... I'm sure it's just a VP thing though as I've noticed this type of thing in the past doing it the old way.. Check out the picture...

 

 playboy_wip_v3.png   1.8MB   6 downloads

 

again thank you all for helping with this.. :-)