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[Halen]

I load both tables and i have these errors.  Unknow gate type and Fatal error: unable to create index buffer! D3DERR_(0x8876086cInvalidCall) at renderdevice.cpp1459. I am running the latest beta VP 10.6 and I already changed the video options but it did not work. I changed the max texture from unlimited  to 1024 and i have the same error.

[Thalamus]

I bet it is the same error as Algar has. The problem is the latest beta and it is already fixed, just not released yet. So, wait for next beta or use an older version of the *.exe for now.

[Halen]

Thalamus i download the last beta VPX.6 and test the Monopoly table again. I have the same error.

[Thalamus]

Sounds like they haven't managed to fix it yet then. I haven't tried the latest one yet, just downloaded it. My suggestion is still. Go to vpinball and download v 4659 on the right side.

 

https://vpinball.com...s/vp-10-6-beta/

 

You extract that to somewhere - maybe c:\temp or something. Then use only the *.exe from that into your vpinball folder. You have to decide if you want to downgrade it and become vpinball.exe or run it as it is named for the problematic tables until it is resolved. If you are sure that you are running the latest version ( double check version number in the menu ) you should report this in the beta thread letting Toxie and Fuzzel know about the problem. They can't fix anything they don't know is broken

[jpsalas]

Or simply find the wrong gate and set it to the type you prefer.

To do that load the table in the editor, press CTRL SHIFT E, sort by type, find the gates, click on one of then, click on select, take a look at the right, and if the gate type is empty, then you found the wrong gate, set it to something, save the table and play it

 

In "Monopoly (Stern 2001)" the wrong gate is sw48

In "Lethal Weapon 3_VPX_1.1" the wrong gate is Gate2

 

The strange thing is that my table "WOW-Monopoly_1.2.0" the gates are ok, but it is 2 years old now, and "Monopoly (Stern 2001)" was based on my table and it came out in may 2017, it must have been the VPX around that time that had an extra value in the gates or simply a bug.

 

Well, it is an easy fix.

 

Edit: In Algar the wrong gate is gate4

Edited by jpsalas, 14 December 2018 - 04:02 AM.

[batch]

Thanks, JP, you really know many things !

[Halen]

Only today I read the thread. Thanks JP!!! 

[bpjacobsen]

Thanks! On Fireball II it's gate3. 

[Zedixair]

Or simply find the wrong gate and set it to the type you prefer.

To do that load the table in the editor, press CTRL SHIFT E, sort by type, find the gates, click on one of then, click on select, take a look at the right, and if the gate type is empty, then you found the wrong gate, set it to something, save the table and play it

 

In "Monopoly (Stern 2001)" the wrong gate is sw48

In "Lethal Weapon 3_VPX_1.1" the wrong gate is Gate2

 

The strange thing is that my table "WOW-Monopoly_1.2.0" the gates are ok, but it is 2 years old now, and "Monopoly (Stern 2001)" was based on my table and it came out in may 2017, it must have been the VPX around that time that had an extra value in the gates or simply a bug.

 

Well, it is an easy fix.

 

Edit: In Algar the wrong gate is gate4

 

@jpsalas : sorry, but I'm a total noob, and don't know hox to fix these tables.

Tried to follow your instructions, and at the beginning, everything's fine, but when I click on "select" as you mention to do, nothing happens except that it unselect the line of the chosen gate...

For instance, when I'm on line "gate4" in ALGAR table (line is blue), if I click on select, the line just becomes white and nothing else happens.  Same issue if I try to double-click or to right-click on something in the line...

I run VPX 10.6 last beta.

What must I do ?

 

Thanks for all your excellent work and support !

Edited by Zedixair, 22 December 2018 - 08:38 AM.

[Thalamus]

You need to make sure that the Options button is active on the left side. You are doing it correctly, but I think that you haven't turned that on.

[Zedixair]

@Thalamus @jpsalas @bpjacobsen: thank you so much, guys !      

Problems solved with your precious help for Monopoly, Lethal Weapon 3, Algar, and Fireball 2... 

 

Still have this issue with Firepower, does anyone know which is the "guilty gate" ?

[Thalamus]

Jp gave you a clue. Your best friend in VP is to me the element selector. In this case you get a error of a gate. Start it like Jp said. Cntrl+shift+e - now sort it instead of object (first column) but scecond  and scroll down to the gates. The error is gate related - right ? And you only get a few possible culprit now instead of all the objects - right ? From there, it should be easy picking. Make sure as above that the options is ticked so you can see the gates properties. I don't want to tell you the answer. It is much better if you find it yourself for us as a community and yourself. Sorry.

 

I would much more prefer to teach you guys how to fix things than just to download. This hobby is built on how we as a community push each other forward. I'm sure that there are people among the "leeches" that know a few things that we should learn from.

 

Please, try to fix this on your own guys first. All clues have been given already

 

Btw. Firepower - here is ... what I can only describe as the perfect recreation. Super awesome.

 

.... ps. I can't understand anything else that you are talking about another Firepower release than this one ?

Edited by Thalamus, 23 December 2018 - 06:38 AM.

[Brer Frog]

I have Lethal Weapon 3 but do not get an error message as mentioned in message #1.

 

I looked at the gates in the Editor & Gate 2 does not have a Type listed.

1) How come I do not get the error message?

2) Should I select a gate type or let it remain blank? How do I determine which type to choose?

3) What the heck is a gate?

[Thalamus]

Ok. The reason is exactly that. Before, it was ok to not select a gate type. So me and other that have made tables forgetting to specify what type of gate it was was allowed ot save and share it without a problem. As VP goes forward, mistakes like these will give you a warning. I surely would not been able to release Algar with this fault, hasn't it been for that VP accepted me to not tell what type of gate I wanted. And here is the problem. VP is constantly getting better. Now it isn't happy anymore with lazy authors not telling it what kind of gate it should use. You, as a user have downloaded at table where VP accepted "empty" gates.

 

... it crashes with the new 10.6beta. Authors have fix this mistake and update their tables. Or as users, learn to fix it - like described above.

Edited by Thalamus, 23 December 2018 - 07:38 AM.

[Brer Frog]

I'm not trying to be critical of anyone for not specifying a gate, sorry if I came across that way.

 

I just have no idea what a gate is or does, and don't have a problem fixing it as described. I'm just trying to learn some things.

[Thalamus]

If you don't get an error. You are probably not running the new beta version of VP that requires it to be correct ?! Or, the version of the table you've got is different from everyone else. Maybe not the latest version ?

 

I was not offended by your question by the way.

 

What is a gate ? When you are in the element selector. It is telling you what layer the gate is on. The tables often er cluttered with objects so to help you find the gate and see what the options are doing. Turn off all the layers in the 1,2,3,4 to 11 buttons except for the layer where the gate is said to be. Now it should be much easier to find the object in question ( the gate ). Change its type. Start the game. Study it. Go back, change its type again. It should now look different if you've done it correctly and you've learned something new - how to change a gates look.

Edited by Thalamus, 23 December 2018 - 07:39 AM.

[Aubrel]

Same for me, tested always with the last VPX beta versions (until yesterday version), I have also the very last VPM versions and I can launch Monopoly and LW3 without any problem.

I checked and yes there is no type defined for sw48 in Monopoly but as I don't know what type to define (no one told) so I leave it like that

[Zedixair]

@Thalamus: I understand and respect your point of view about VP community, etc...

 

The problem is I have got no idea at all of how to identify a gate amongst hundreds of lines.

Everything would be clear if all the gates had a name like "gate N°x", but it's not the case... (for instance, the gate "sw48" for Monopoly)

So, to me, when you say "you only get a few possible culprit now instead of all the objects - right ? From there, it should be easy picking. ", I think it's not exactly the whole truth.

 

Once again, I understand your "educational" pov, but it's really hard for a total newbie like me to solve such problems by my own.

 

I'm sorry if my second request made you a little bit upset, but please keep on mind I'm just a noob with no knowings at all in all these things.

 

Thanks again for all the time and help you give on this forum. 

[Thalamus]

 

If you do like I say. There is NOT hundreds of lines. It is 8 gates in total. Sort by 2nd colum. If you know the switch number - sw48. Well, then you don't need to use second column. Just sort by first column alphabetically and scroll. This is something even a newbie should be able to do, especially after I told you the keyboard shortcut on how to open the selection editor.

[Zedixair]

OK @Thalamus.

Didn't understood everything because of my bad english, but now it's clear to me.

 

If it can help someone else, for FIREPOWER, the bad gates are gate n°2 AND gate n°3.