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[The Trout]

Is anyone else having a problem with solid black being transparent on the pool stick and the platform it rotates on? I'm seeing little dots of crap showing through where some black areas are supposed to be. Or is that an ATI bug?

Didn't you just get a new PC Bob? Makes me nervous about getting a new one. I don't want to spend $1000+ and it not play everything.

You can build a solid gaming rig for considerably less that $1000. Just don't buy an off-the-shelf computer.

[Bob5453]

Didn't you just get a new PC Bob? Makes me nervous about getting a new one. I don't want to spend $1000+ and it not play everything.

No, I just got a new widescreen monitor and a new graphics card. My pc is about 4 yrs old.

Processor: Intel® Pentium® D CPU 2.80GHz (2800 MHz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP, 32-bit (Service Pack 3)
DirectX version: 9.0c
GPU processor: GeForce 9800 GT
Driver version: 182.50
Stream processors: 112
Core clock: 550 MHz
Shader clock: 1375 MHz
Memory clock: 900 MHz (1800 MHz data rate)
Memory interface: 256-bit
Memory: 1024 MB

[destruk]

Is anyone else having a problem with solid black being transparent on the pool stick and the platform it rotates on? I'm seeing little dots of crap showing through where some black areas are supposed to be. Or is that an ATI bug?

You should try checking the reorder box - it's to the right of HDRender.

[macnods]

Is anyone else having a problem with solid black being transparent on the pool stick and the platform it rotates on? I'm seeing little dots of crap showing through where some black areas are supposed to be. Or is that an ATI bug?

You should try checking the reorder box - it's to the right of HDRender.

I have the same problem, the center area is black, i try checking reorder and the problem continues.
I have a nvidia 9800 gt 1gb of merory.
Cheers

[Rawd]

Mine is not black, but I noticed that I can see the ball through the platform that the pool cue sits on. Nividia 250GTS

[destruk]

Mine is not black, but I noticed that I can see the ball through the platform that the pool cue sits on. Nividia 250GTS

You can fix that easy Rawd - enable flipbook animation for pl13, pl23, pl33, pl43, pl53, pl63, pl73, pl83, pl93

[ClickerSnapper]

hmmm....
I'll look more closely, but No issues here
XP 182.50 NVidia gts250 UVP setup. 2gig ram

As far as I can tell, all good here.

Beautiful table and fun to play!
Seems smooth even in multiball.

[Rawd]

Mine is not black, but I noticed that I can see the ball through the platform that the pool cue sits on. Nividia 250GTS

You can fix that easy Rawd - enable flipbook animation for pl13, pl23, pl33, pl43, pl53, pl63, pl73, pl83, pl93

They seem to already have Flipbook animation checked for all of them.

Edit: Oops, I was wrong. They are not checked! They are hard to get at though.. I will work on this. Thanks.

[destruk]

pl11 does, pl12 does, pl13 doesn't.
So look again. ...making me redownload the table and yeah, the ones I list aren't.

edit - The easiest way to make this adjustment is to go to collection manager, create a new collection, and move them all into the list to the right. Then you can click the arrow down for the selection cursor and click on collection 1, and check one box which will apply that to all of them.

[Rawd]

Mine is not black, but I noticed that I can see the ball through the platform that the pool cue sits on. Nividia 250GTS

You can fix that easy Rawd - enable flipbook animation for pl13, pl23, pl33, pl43, pl53, pl63, pl73, pl83, pl93

They seem to already have Flipbook animation checked for all of them.

pl11 does, pl12 does, pl13 doesn't.
So look again. ...making me redownload the table and yeah, the ones I list aren't.

Ya, you beat me to my edited post. Thanks again Destruk.

edit - The easiest way to make this adjustment is to go to collection manager, create a new collection, and move them all into the list to the right. Then you can click the arrow down for the selection cursor and click on collection 1, and check one box which will apply that to all of them.

Thanks.

[The Trout]

You should try checking the reorder box - it's to the right of HDRender.

I always have reorder checked. I just turned it OFF, though, and still no difference. Stupid black transparency.

Here's what I'm talking about:



That's the table with 16-bit color. When I change it to 32-bit, MOST of the problem goes away, but a few pixels are still showing through to the yellow of the platform below. You can actually see this in the screenshot in the original psot as well. I notice that the original textures use black (0, 0, 0) as the transparent color, and that a lot of the image itself uses (7, 7, 7) as its darkest shade. When going from 32-bit to 16-bit, I think VP is turning that (7, 7, 7) into pure black, resulting in most of the problem. Hmm. Editing the images in question to have RGB Green (0, 255, 0) as the transparent color would probably nip the problem in the bud...

Edited by The Trout, 08 May 2010 - 05:25 PM.

[jpsalas]

I was sure I had that flipbook checked on all the walls. Now I understand why I got some strange see through problems which made me make new walls for the pool stick a little higher. I guess I used too much cut/paste, or too many CTRL Z.

JP

[destruk]

I don't think I've thanked you for this table JPSalas - so thanks a bunch for this one.

[jpsalas]

You're welcome!

[Anton]

Woo-hoo! 90's Gottlieb tables are woefully under-appreciated.

Anyone who thinks that they are huge pieces of junk and monstrosity
should seriously find a fully working GL

[FDSystems]

Beautiful table! My system isn't good enough to play it without the ball stuttering.

Same here: great table,nothing wrong, great laptop, nothing wrong, what is wrong is the budget available at the time of the purchase...

[macnods]

I have a problem with this table, i try hd render on off, reorder on off, etc and the result is the same



Thanks

[jpsalas]

I don't know what can be, but you can try setting the "Flipbook Animation" on the walls as destruk wrote a few posts above.
I know VP has displaying problems when you use dropwalls on top of dropwalls.

JP

[macnods]

Lo siento jpsalas, pero no entiendo bien lo que quieres decirme, ten en cuenta que entre que soy bastante novato en esto del visualpinball y el ingles, pues ando perdido.
¿Podrias explicarmelo de nuevo por favor?
Un saludo

[philly80]

thx 4 sharing youre great work. its my favorite table!!!

great graphics and atmosphere with nice sounds, especialy the rolling ball sounds

Edited by philly80, 11 May 2010 - 12:25 AM.