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[neosean99]

Hello again VPF!!! You all did so wonderful helping me solve my last table issue, and today I came across another issue.

 

I had a full updated to the latest stable releases (minus B2S) build of my VPX working flawlessly in 32bit, and 64bit on Windows 10. I had downloaded a new backglass file from HauntFreaks for the Harley Quinn table but could not get the scoreboard to work on it (the dmd appeared, and was fine). Speaking only of the digital figures built within the backglass itself). I was troubleshooting, and landed on updating my B2Server as I was a few versions behind. Unblocked the .zip for v2.1.5.1., and placed into my Tables folder per usual. I did not back up my previous B2S files, and I realize that was dumb. I have updated in this manner in the past and it did not cause any issue. Lesson learned. At first, I was unable to register. I power cycled my PC, and tried again. Somehow it worked the second time. When I tried to open a table in 64bit to test, it would not load the backglass. I went into VPX Preferences > Keys, selected the Disable B2S option, and hit ok. Then repeated the process, unchecked Disable B2s, and hit ok. Once I shutdown VPX, and re-opened everything was fine on 64bit, including placement settings etc.

 

Then I went to test 32bit as I have a few tables that I still need to run it for. Nothing. DMD shows fine, placement of DMD is fine, but no backglass. Went back to 64bit to make sure it populated for the same table, and it did. Checked over a few settings in 32bit,  confirmed everything looked ok, and then tried the disable/enable B2S trick in Preferences > Keys again to see if that would work. Still nothing. Then I went to the registry using RegDIIView, searched for B2S, and unregistered the .dll entry. Reregistered B2S, and tried again. Still the same result. 

 

I am unsure what the problem is. I would figure if something was broken, both versions would not work. I have not had issues updating previously, and certainly not where its working in 64bit, and not 32bit. I am open to suggestions as to what exactly might be occurring here. I have not uninstalled anything other than trying to replace the B2S update files again, and didn't think it would be necessary since this was just with B2S. Any help would be appreciated! Thank you!

Edited by neosean99, 08 January 2026 - 07:33 PM.

[deadmanworking]

First check that the B2S files are named exactly like the table files, since default for fuzzy vs exact name matching was changed some time between versions.

[neosean99]

They are. I've always had them set up that way. Again, they are fully working in 64bit, just not 32bit. Both versions were working fine before updating today. Odd...

[deadmanworking]

I remember I also had some issues going to 2.1.5, I think I went back to 2.1.4 mashup for the time being.

[Tesla]

 Again, they are fully working in 64bit, just not 32bit. 

 

This says a lot (that's a lot working). Seems like that means files like ScreenRes.txt are correct also.

 

You even remembered to Un-Block the download. You even Un-Registered the old one first (like I do). Were you using the RegDLLview-x64 version ? (you should)

 

Doesn't B2S-Server v2.1.5.1 have some new setup/config program? Did you use it?

 

Not that its related to your current issue... but I still wonder ... why install in \Tables\ folder?

- On my installs, I always install to C:\B2S-Server\ to make it more standalone (well, because it is). It still looks in \Tables\ for config files.

Edited by Tesla, 08 January 2026 - 09:40 PM.

[neosean99]

Tesla, I did use the 64bit. B2S Server v2.1.5.1 did not have a special installation that I saw. It was just a standard set of files in a .zip like previous releases. No special instructions on Github. I install in the Tables folder as that is where Baller Installer installed them when I first started my VPX project. Not a huge deal. Could be a release bug for all I know? I guess that is why I am here. I only have maybe 6 tables that need 32bit, but still. It was working. Nothing drastic happened to make it not work in 32bit, especially since its running fine in 64. *Shrug*

 

I may take DeadmanWorking's suggestion and roll back to see if the problem persists. I've had enough messing with this over a freakin backglass. I'm gonna have a beer, and go play some tables GDI! lol I'll keep the post updated with results on the roll back. Thank you all for the input! You all rock!

Edited by neosean99, 09 January 2026 - 12:08 AM.

[Tesla]

1. Pinball Fan, I did use the 64bit. B2S Server v2.1.5.1 did not have a special installation that I saw.

 

2. I've had enough messing with this over a freakin backglass. I'm gonna have a beer, and go play some tables GDI! lol I'll keep the post updated with results on the roll back. Thank you all for the input! You all rock!

 

1. I'm running v2.1.4 on my cabinet and also development machine in office.

 

But someone was asking about v2.1.5.x the other day so I looked it up for them. See Release Notes about new setup/config program ... looks like it's a new EXE in the bundle. I un-zippped it but then deleted it (haven't tried it yet). I tend to not mess with such things when they are working.

 

2. Yeah, sounds like you need a break dude.

 

When you are ready to work on this again, we will be here. If was obviously important a few minutes ago because you posted and all (good thorough post BTW)

 

EDIT:

OK, I DL-ed it again. Looks like it's called B2S_SetUp.exe . 

Edited by Tesla, 08 January 2026 - 11:28 PM.

[neosean99]

Tesla, curiosity got the better of me and I did check the B2S_SetUp.exe file. It states on github that this is new to convert over to percentages, but it doesn't state that it is a must, or part of installation. Maybe oversight, or maybe I am just blind lol. Either way B2S read the screen res file regardless. All that .exe file does is convert it over to the newer format. After conversion, 32bit still doesn't show a backglass. 64bit works either way. I am still going to try to roll it back to make sure it's not something further in my installation causing issues (shouldn't be, but I'd like to be sure). I will roll it back tomorrow. Now, back to beer and TMNT! I'm on a run tonight!!! WOOOOOO! "NINJA! NINJA!!!"

 

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Edited by neosean99, 09 January 2026 - 12:33 AM.

[Tesla]

1. It states on github that this is new to convert over to percentages, 

 

2. Either way B2S read the screen res file regardless ... 64bit works either way.

 

3. All that .exe file does is convert it over to the newer format. After conversion, 32bit still doesn't show a backglass. 

 

4. I am still going to try to roll it back to make sure it's not something further in my installation causing issues (shouldn't be, but I'd like to be sure). I will roll it back tomorrow.

 

5. Now, back to beer and TMNT! I'm on a run tonight!!! WOOOOOO! "NINJA! NINJA!!!"

 

 

1. Oh. Hmm ... but I LIKE my exact coordinates. Glad I end-up with v2.1.4 on both ... it was a "non-issue".

 

2. Good. Like I said ... this validates a large-part of your install.

 

3. Hmm, again I say ... "Glad I end-up with v2.1.4 on both" ...

 

4. Sounds like a plan.

 

5. Nice.

[neosean99]

Rolled B2S back to v2.1.4 tonight. Confirmed working without any effort at all after the replacement of files on both 32bit, and 64bit. Thank you all for assisting. Seems I might just stay away from that new update for awhile

[Tesla]

Rolled B2S back to v2.1.4 tonight. Confirmed working without any effort at all after the replacement of files on both 32bit, and 64bit. Thank you all for assisting. Seems I might just stay away from that new update for awhile

 

Good to hear you got it sorted out.

 

Thanks for reporting back on the fix ... err, work-around. Maybe some others can read this adventure. 

 

You obviously know what you are doing, so v2.1.5.1 sounds fairly "broken" to me.

Edited by Tesla, 10 January 2026 - 01:45 AM.

[deadmanworking]

Good to hear you're up and running again, yeah I find this pretty normal to sit out an update or to, beside the B2S issue I had the latest Nvidia drivers killing my frontend videos (rolled back), PinballX update not starting at all (rolled back), Dude's cab update crashing everything (rolled back), just always keep all your older install files and backup regularly and you're golden ✌🏻