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[jpsalas]

File Name: Galaxy (Sega 1973)

File Submitter: jpsalas

File Submitted: 05 Mar 2023

File Category: VPX Recreations

Author(s): jpsalas
leonard
STAT
Manufacturer: Sega
Year: 1973
Permission to MOD?: Yes, without approval

Based on the table by Sega from 1973.
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jpsalas: VPX table
Leonard: graphics
STAT: directb2s
 
And a very special thanks to these persons who I always forget to give credit:
GNance for his Postit system including the highscore script.
Pedator for his postit graphics.(letters)
 
Notes about this table:
This is an EM table made by Sega in Japan in 1973.
It is a 1 player only and it has a few objects that are different than other tables, like the bumpers and the slingshots.
It has also a "space walk" where the ball is moved from one kicker to the other by a magnet.
And it also has a right gate to save the ball.
 
 

Click here to download this file

[bolt]

A new (old)table, looks very nice. Thank you JP.

[STAT]

Thanks "JP Team"

[jpsalas]

There are 2 videos at YouTube about this rare table:

 

https://youtu.be/bBFtqw0rKpY

 

https://youtu.be/Ln39GtCQhxc

[Outhere]

Thanks for the nice Table
Here a Table script with solenoids added for DOF
 Galaxy _jpsalas(Sega 1973)_1.0.txt.zip   12.18KB   5 downloads

[jpsalas]

UPDATE

 

1.0.1 Updated same day

- Added DOF commands by Outhere.

 

Thanks Outhere for the DOF commands!

Edited by jpsalas, 05 March 2023 - 07:27 PM.

[Gravy]

JP, I was thinking some shadowing effects might give the table a little more depth in cabinet mode so had a bit of a play with adding a shadow layer into the playfield.

Probably not worthy of a mod but would you mind if I add it to the site as a playfield resource so people can add it to the table if they want to?

Here's a sample image, some of the shadows may be a bit too extreme but to my eyes looks ok. I also added a blue glow under the blue plastic lane guides at the top and some slight red playfield glow around the bumpers.


Edit: playfield file now uploaded to https://www.vpforums...&showfile=17242

Attached Files

•  pf3.jpg   199.76KB   1 downloads
•  galaxy-sega-shadowplayfield-demo.jpg   162.21KB   1 downloads

Edited by Gravy, 07 March 2023 - 10:22 PM.

[jpsalas]

JP, I was thinking some shadowing effects might give the table a little more depth in cabinet mode so had a bit of a play with adding a shadow layer into the playfield.

Probably not worthy of a mod but would you mind if I add it to the site as a playfield resource so people can add it to the table if they want to?

Here's a sample image, some of the shadows may be a bit too extreme but to my eyes looks ok. I also added a blue glow under the blue plastic lane guides at the top and some slight red playfield glow around the bumpers.

 

Yes, no problem.

[Gravy]

 

JP, I was thinking some shadowing effects might give the table a little more depth in cabinet mode so had a bit of a play with adding a shadow layer into the playfield.

Probably not worthy of a mod but would you mind if I add it to the site as a playfield resource so people can add it to the table if they want to?

Here's a sample image, some of the shadows may be a bit too extreme but to my eyes looks ok. I also added a blue glow under the blue plastic lane guides at the top and some slight red playfield glow around the bumpers.

 

Yes, no problem.

 

Thanks JP, have uploaded a shadowmap playfield for this table if anyone is interested. https://www.vpforums...&showfile=17242
 

[yukiko1701d]

WOW!!!    

 

Thank You From Japan!!!

 

I thought Sega pinball was unfeasible...

 

Reproducibility is the highest level...

 

Will ”Sapporo” or ”Crazy Clock” be next? ? ?

 

I look forward to your next work...

[STAT]

Greetings to Japan ... Have Fun with the Table

Crazy Clock looks cool, is there a swinging Pendulum under the Glass ?

Sapporo could be also fine, with the Mini "Skiing Field", nice.

 

If you have access to the Playfield Images, Backglass, or even to the real Machine, and more, let us know ...

Edited by STAT, 06 March 2023 - 12:48 PM.

[jpsalas]

Hey yukiko1701d!

 

As STAT said, what we need are some resources and info about the tables. Leonard send me pictures of Crazy Clock, Nostalgia and Mikoshi, and he said that he could redraw the graphics. So, there is hope  for more Sega tables for VPX

[tmpc]

Thank you.

[haggi]

A table with "slow motion". I did not know that until now.

A big thank you for it.

 

A big thank you also to SAT for the nice B2s

[Gravy]

I wonder if the ball walking feature was actually smoother on the original machines when they were brand new or if the short pauses in the transport shown in the videos of the actual table are the result of deteriorating mechanics in the magnet feature?

[wiesshund]

I wonder if the ball walking feature was actually smoother on the original machines when they were brand new or if the short pauses in the transport shown in the videos of the actual table are the result of deteriorating mechanics in the magnet feature?

 

Would not surprise me if the original is jerky too, for a couple reasons

[Gravy]

 

I wonder if the ball walking feature was actually smoother on the original machines when they were brand new or if the short pauses in the transport shown in the videos of the actual table are the result of deteriorating mechanics in the magnet feature?

 

Would not surprise me if the original is jerky too, for a couple reasons

 

Friction?? Do balls roll when moved by a magnet, or are they actually dragged across the playfield surface and maintain their orientation? I feel like they may be dragged.

Edited by Gravy, 06 March 2023 - 11:14 PM.

[yukiko1701d]

Greetings to Japan ... Have Fun with the Table

Crazy Clock looks cool, is there a swinging Pendulum under the Glass ?

Sapporo could be also fine, with the Mini "Skiing Field", nice.

 

If you have access to the Playfield Images, Backglass, or even to the real Machine, and more, let us know ...

The pendulum is inside the playfield...(Inside the plastic cover...)
 

I'm looking for materials from that time, but...it's a 51-year-old machine, so it's not even at Sega's headquarters...

 

I'll do my best to find it, but don't get your hopes up...

 

We'll let you know when new information comes out...

Edited by yukiko1701d, 07 March 2023 - 02:32 AM.

[wiesshund]

 

 

I wonder if the ball walking feature was actually smoother on the original machines when they were brand new or if the short pauses in the transport shown in the videos of the actual table are the result of deteriorating mechanics in the magnet feature?

 

Would not surprise me if the original is jerky too, for a couple reasons

 

Friction?? Do balls roll when moved by a magnet, or are they actually dragged across the playfield surface and maintain their orientation? I feel like they may be dragged.

 

They roll
but depending on how wide the magnetic field is and how strong, it could move a bit before the ball is forced to go with it
and then the ball would kind of be drawn towards the center of the field, which could make it move kind of jerky.
Add to that, the manner in which the magnet might be moved.

It is a 50+ year old machine, so probably would be considered kind of crude in design and tech compared to what exists today.
But magnets moving balls around was not exactly common in 1973, so a jerking floating ball was probably still amazing then.

 

I remember a lot of mechanical coin ops, and jerky was kind of the soup of the day
but the stuff moved, when and where you told it, so no one cared a lot about jerky movement.
Were no video games to go compare them to.

[Gravy]

 

Greetings to Japan ... Have Fun with the Table

Crazy Clock looks cool, is there a swinging Pendulum under the Glass ?

Sapporo could be also fine, with the Mini "Skiing Field", nice.

 

If you have access to the Playfield Images, Backglass, or even to the real Machine, and more, let us know ...

The pendulum is inside the playfield...(Inside the plastic cover...)
 

I'm looking for materials from that time, but...it's a 51-year-old machine, so it's not even at Sega's headquarters...

 

I'll do my best to find it, but don't get your hopes up...

 

We'll let you know when new information comes out...

 

Someone could probably redraw from the playfield posted at ipdb https://www.ipdb.org...no=59691&zoom=1 , it's reasonable resolution to see most details.

Did the clock pendulum have a light inside it? Does it swing freely or just move little by little?