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[jpsalas]

File Name: Trick Shooter (LTD 1980)

File Submitter: jpsalas

File Submitted: 29 Dec 2022

File Category: VPX/VPinMAME Recreations

Author(s): jpsalas
Halen
mfuegemann
Manufacturer: Other - Pinball
Year: 1980
ROM: Link to ROM
Permission to MOD?: Yes, without approval

Based on the LTD do Brasil table from 1980. 
 
Graphics by Halen
Vpinmame script by mfuegemann
Thanks to Carlos Guizzo and LTD group for providing the images of the real table.
 
I made a simple directb2s instead of uploading just an image. Feel free to add some lightning if you want, I don't think the table had any special lights on the backglass, just a big round light.
I have also uploaded the rom.

Click here to download this file

[teisen]

Thanks for the great surprise JP!

 

Obrigado Carlos Guizzo e grupo LTD and others involved

 

Your Brazilian fans thank you...

 

a big hug and a great 2023 for you and family!

Edited by teisen, 29 December 2022 - 12:19 PM.

[HiRez00]

[Armyaviation]

how do you get the LTD tables to coin in with the 3 button instead of 4.  i remember i changed the LTD.vbs before but when i updated to 10.7 they overwrote the changed one

Thanks JP for this and 301 bullseye

 

checked time machine and was using the same vbs file and it coins with button 3

Edited by Armyaviation, 30 December 2022 - 05:43 PM.

[wiesshund]

how do you get the LTD tables to coin in with the 3 button instead of 4.  i remember i changed the LTD.vbs before but when i updated to 10.7 they overwrote the changed one

Thanks JP for this and 301 bullseye

 

checked time machine and was using the same vbs file and it coins with button 3

 

LTD would sometimes steal back coin switches to re-use for table functions

so they would take coin 1 and use it for a table switch
leaving only coin 2 to accept coins for example

 

haunted hotel is like that
but since it is a one off (pec men is different still)
i wrote the ltd4a.vbs accordingly

[mfuegemann]

how do you get the LTD tables to coin in with the 3 button instead of 4.  i remember i changed the LTD.vbs before but when i updated to 10.7 they overwrote the changed one

Thanks JP for this and 301 bullseye

 

checked time machine and was using the same vbs file and it coins with button 3

 

You can always change the switch number for swCoin2 in the vbs file to be the same as swCoin3 (or vice versa):
 

Const swCoin3       = 13 

Const swCoin2       = 14

 

And maybe leave the original lines as comments for later reference:

 

Const swCoin3       = 13 

Const swCoin2       = 13

' Const swCoin2       = 14

[Armyaviation]

 

how do you get the LTD tables to coin in with the 3 button instead of 4.  i remember i changed the LTD.vbs before but when i updated to 10.7 they overwrote the changed one

Thanks JP for this and 301 bullseye

 

checked time machine and was using the same vbs file and it coins with button 3

 

You can always change the switch number for swCoin2 in the vbs file to be the same as swCoin3 (or vice versa):
 

Const swCoin3       = 13 

Const swCoin2       = 14

 

And maybe leave the original lines as comments for later reference:

 

Const swCoin3       = 13 

Const swCoin2       = 13

' Const swCoin2       = 14

 

did exactly as you said, added that line and commented out sw14.  i did it only on ltd.vbs and it didnt work.  cowboy eight ball 2 doesnt work with coin 3 either.  do i need to do all ltd..vbs also

[wiesshund]

 

 

how do you get the LTD tables to coin in with the 3 button instead of 4.  i remember i changed the LTD.vbs before but when i updated to 10.7 they overwrote the changed one

Thanks JP for this and 301 bullseye

 

checked time machine and was using the same vbs file and it coins with button 3

 

You can always change the switch number for swCoin2 in the vbs file to be the same as swCoin3 (or vice versa):
 

Const swCoin3       = 13 

Const swCoin2       = 14

 

And maybe leave the original lines as comments for later reference:

 

Const swCoin3       = 13 

Const swCoin2       = 13

' Const swCoin2       = 14

 

did exactly as you said, added that line and commented out sw14.  i did it only on ltd.vbs and it didnt work.  cowboy eight ball 2 doesnt work with coin 3 either.  do i need to do all ltd..vbs also

 

 

i would instead copy the vbs the table uses
rename it like ltd-ts.vbs
then edit ltd-ts.vbs to respond to the coil slot you wish
and edit the table to load ltd-ts.vbs instead of ltd.vbs

Also

Const swCoin3       = 13 

Const swCoin2       = 14

 

swCoin2 is key 4
swCoin 3 is key 5
swCoin1 is key 3
so add
Const swCoin1       = 13 

dont change the switch numbers themselves
that is only flip flopping slots 2 and 3

[Armyaviation]

 

 

 

how do you get the LTD tables to coin in with the 3 button instead of 4.  i remember i changed the LTD.vbs before but when i updated to 10.7 they overwrote the changed one

Thanks JP for this and 301 bullseye

 

checked time machine and was using the same vbs file and it coins with button 3

 

You can always change the switch number for swCoin2 in the vbs file to be the same as swCoin3 (or vice versa):
 

Const swCoin3       = 13 

Const swCoin2       = 14

 

And maybe leave the original lines as comments for later reference:

 

Const swCoin3       = 13 

Const swCoin2       = 13

' Const swCoin2       = 14

 

did exactly as you said, added that line and commented out sw14.  i did it only on ltd.vbs and it didnt work.  cowboy eight ball 2 doesnt work with coin 3 either.  do i need to do all ltd..vbs also

 

 

i would instead copy the vbs the table uses
rename it like ltd-ts.vbs
then edit ltd-ts.vbs to respond to the coil slot you wish
and edit the table to load ltd-ts.vbs instead of ltd.vbs

Also

Const swCoin3       = 13 

Const swCoin2       = 14

 

swCoin2 is key 4
swCoin 3 is key 5
swCoin1 is key 3
so add
Const swCoin1       = 13 

dont change the switch numbers themselves
that is only flip flopping slots 2 and 3

 

I ended up creating a copy like you said and changing swcoin2 to swcoin1 in 3 places in the script.  worked and all ltd games work except cowboy eight ball 2

[wiesshund]

 

 

 

 

how do you get the LTD tables to coin in with the 3 button instead of 4.  i remember i changed the LTD.vbs before but when i updated to 10.7 they overwrote the changed one

Thanks JP for this and 301 bullseye

 

checked time machine and was using the same vbs file and it coins with button 3

 

You can always change the switch number for swCoin2 in the vbs file to be the same as swCoin3 (or vice versa):
 

Const swCoin3       = 13 

Const swCoin2       = 14

 

And maybe leave the original lines as comments for later reference:

 

Const swCoin3       = 13 

Const swCoin2       = 13

' Const swCoin2       = 14

 

did exactly as you said, added that line and commented out sw14.  i did it only on ltd.vbs and it didnt work.  cowboy eight ball 2 doesnt work with coin 3 either.  do i need to do all ltd..vbs also

 

 

i would instead copy the vbs the table uses
rename it like ltd-ts.vbs
then edit ltd-ts.vbs to respond to the coil slot you wish
and edit the table to load ltd-ts.vbs instead of ltd.vbs

Also

Const swCoin3       = 13 

Const swCoin2       = 14

 

swCoin2 is key 4
swCoin 3 is key 5
swCoin1 is key 3
so add
Const swCoin1       = 13 

dont change the switch numbers themselves
that is only flip flopping slots 2 and 3

 

I ended up creating a copy like you said and changing swcoin2 to swcoin1 in 3 places in the script.  worked and all ltd games work except cowboy eight ball 2

 

 

It very much depends on what they did to the controller when making the machine.

 

Like Haunted Hotel, they hacked and reprogrammed the controller so much, there was only 1 switch left for coins and it wasnt coin 1, lamp channels got stolen to drive solenoids
and other oddities

 

Pecmen's controller was again modified

 

Cowboy 8ball may only have one coin input moved to some odd place or something, i have never looked at it