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#1 bobmagnuson

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Posted 27 January 2022 - 11:34 PM

I've been working on getting my cabinet working and am running into a problem that is a show stopper.

 

My computer is running a fresh barebones Win10 Ghost Spectre install...

  • Ryzen 2600x
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  • 1660TI with latest 511.23 drivers

 

All software was installed via Baller Installer.

 

I'm experiencing the problem in VPX 10.6, 10.7 x64 & 10.7 x86 (I've tried them all).  Using VPinmame 3.4

 

This happens on both a fresh reboot and if the machine has been up and running.

 

Loading a table works fine.  The problem is getting the table to run. 

 

When running the table, you can see the progress as it goes through the loading sequence.  Then VPX crashes or it works and the table is playable.  If playable hitting Q twice will sometime cause VPX to completely shut down, other times it drops to the editor.

 

There is no pattern to the failures.  Sometimes the same table will crash and if tried again, works.  And vise versa.  A reboot doesn't affect it, sometimes it works post reboot, sometimes not.

 

The table doesn't seem to matter, old, new, 10.7 or 10.6.

 

When it crashes, it's not updating the crash.txt file and no error is ever displayed.

 

I'm thoroughly stumped and frustration level is at an all-time high!  I'm just not sure what my next steps should be.

 

Suggestions??



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Posted 28 January 2022 - 01:42 AM

Any way you can test with a non Ghost recon OS install?

 

I tried one of those ghost builds once on a test drive and nothing worked as intended, including activating windows with a legit COA


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Posted 28 January 2022 - 02:08 AM

I might be able to swap in a ssd and do a fresh install.

Curious how you'd prevent Windows updates from missing things up though?

Edited by bobmagnuson, 28 January 2022 - 02:17 AM.


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Posted 28 January 2022 - 02:15 AM

I might be able to swap in a ssd and do a fresh install.

 

Maybe it does not help, but i would hate to see you go in circles chasing your tail to find that the issue itself stems from the bastardized
OS repackaging and that it would have just worked in a standard install.

 

to be brutally honest, there is 0 advantage to those installations period.

 

You can turn off most anything including windows updates on an MS sanctioned version of windows 10

i have machines here that, i dont want to update, i dont want to send telemetry data etc, i want their network use to be abysmally minimal except when they are asked to send data, and i dont want them to update due to compatibility issues with very old software

 

So i simply turn that stuff off


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If you really want a PC to do nothing outside the house
just set up its network adapter for a totally isolated existence and it wont even talk outside your house


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Posted 28 January 2022 - 02:29 AM

I appreciate the advice! I'll give that a go this weekend, where I'm sitting right now is am unusable install, it's worth a shot.

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Posted 28 January 2022 - 06:38 AM

I agree with wiesshund. I have been working with Windows since the 80's. My first Windows was Windows 2. When Windows 95 came, it didn't take long before I started ripping off things and using other shells (I guess many of you remember Litestep, and similar shells :) ). Non of my attempts to get Windows to be smaller resulted in a 100% stable working OS. I did try that with Windows XP, Vista, 7 and Windows 10 too (I never give up :) ). Even Microsoft itself has a Windows 10 without too much crap, the one called LTSC, and I used that for a few machines at work, but even that OS isn't good enough if you want to run some new software, which suddenly need something that it's not there. After many attempts with Windows 10 I found out the best thing, in a enterprise, is to use policies to stop all that you don't want. And at home the easiest thing is to use a program like O&O ShutUp10++: Free antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11 (oo-software.com), in which you can turn off almost anything in Windows 10. All these "gamers" OS are a waste of time. The installation will be smaller, and maybe you'll get a few extra fps, due to some services missing, but the OS will be more unstable than usual :)


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