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#1 Skenny

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Posted 09 September 2021 - 09:35 PM

Looking at the file associations vpx are opened by vpin 10. Vpt files are opened with vpin 9. I am having no issues at all with anything I throw at vpx but everything that is a vpt opened by vpin 9 are rotated horizontally.  Also using Pinball Y as a front end and the playfield rotated for my single monitor, vp9 tables are all on their side.
 
vpt files all run fine, just all tilted on their side so I can play if I bend my head to the left but that does not seem like an ideal solution.  It must be a global setting gone funky somewhere since all vpt files are doing the same thing.
 
Single normal 1440p monitor, not rotated in any way, its in the normal out of the box landscape orientation.
 
Anyone know how to globally get this changed so they open with the correct orientation?


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Posted 09 September 2021 - 11:16 PM

VP9 uses separate portrait cabinet VP9 tables and landscape desktop VP9 tables?  Did you download VP9 cabinet tables?



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Posted 09 September 2021 - 11:52 PM

The answer is obvious

Stand your 2K screen on its side and play

 

:)

 

what GTXjoe said is exactly right though, vp9 was not capable is having multiple POV's in a single table.

Some vp9 tables, you can flip to landscape by editing the POV info, but a lot of them use decals etc that are in the backglass screen
and those wont move when you unflip the table, you would have to redo those by hand.

 

Personally i like standing the screen on its side.
If you make a little wooden ramp like frame to sit it on, it is almost like having a cabinet, it is actually a lot of fun and requires not permanent wrecking of your normal desktop setup, it is worth considering.

When i got a new monitor, i literally did this, for like 2 hours, it was not optimal obviously, but i was too busy having fun to set up a better solution

 

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Yep stand center channel speaker and all.
Now i have some dense sytrofoam pieces i cut that make a ramp from the receiver to the desk, that styrofoam that is like hard as a brick and doesnt crumble? and i just set the foam pieces in place and lay the monitor on them
then set the 2nd monitor behind it for the backglass and plug in an xbox knockoff controller, then i have analog nudging and plunger, flipper and magnasave buttons
When i am done, slide monitor 2 back over, stand monitor 1 back up cause i still dont take the stand off, and set the foam pieces back in the closet.


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Posted 10 September 2021 - 12:19 AM

Interesting, I did not know that this was a difference, learn something new every day!

 

So how can you tell if a vp9 table is portrait or landscape orientation?  On the descriptions I dont see any indicator of that.  I see various letters like DT or FS or 16:9, or MOD, but not a standard indicator that says something is portrait or landscape from just reading the pages.  

 

The answer is obvious

Stand your 2K screen on its side and play

 

:)

 

what GTXjoe said is exactly right though, vp9 was not capable is having multiple POV's in a single table.

Some vp9 tables, you can flip to landscape by editing the POV info, but a lot of them use decals etc that are in the backglass screen
and those wont move when you unflip the table, you would have to redo those by hand.

 

Personally i like standing the screen on its side.
If you make a little wooden ramp like frame to sit it on, it is almost like having a cabinet, it is actually a lot of fun and requires not permanent wrecking of your normal desktop setup, it is worth considering.

When i got a new monitor, i literally did this, for like 2 hours, it was not optimal obviously, but i was too busy having fun to set up a better solution

 

ezV0zFg.jpg

 

Yep stand center channel speaker and all.
Now i have some dense sytrofoam pieces i cut that make a ramp from the receiver to the desk, that styrofoam that is like hard as a brick and doesnt crumble? and i just set the foam pieces in place and lay the monitor on them
then set the 2nd monitor behind it for the backglass and plug in an xbox knockoff controller, then i have analog nudging and plunger, flipper and magnasave buttons
When i am done, slide monitor 2 back over, stand monitor 1 back up cause i still dont take the stand off, and set the foam pieces back in the closet.

 

 Now this is both ridiculous and awesome.  That is an honorable dedication to the scene that I fully commend.  It's amazing but not something I am going to embark on just yet!



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Posted 10 September 2021 - 12:34 AM

You obviously downloaded some table pack so ask the creator of that pack if they know what they were doing.

On this site, all the cabinet tables are in one download area and all the desktop tables in another area, so you wont have this problem.

The best thing to do is delete all the VP9 tables and replace them with the newer VPX versions.

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Posted 10 September 2021 - 12:46 AM

DT means desktop FS means cabinet oriented view

16:9 is because when VP9 started, a lot of people still had 4:3 aperture monitors and so made 4:3 tables or converted vp8 4:3 tables over
MOD just means it is a table modification, same as VPX

 

the download section for VP9 is divided, there is a cabinet section and a desktop section, but some tables got uploaded into the wrong area.

 

As for the last, not terribly ridiculous, aside from standing it straight on in its side, but that was temporary

 

You can not very well lay it flat on a desk because it wont sit well, and the desk may not be deep enough either.

But all you need is a little wooden frame that looks like a couple of ramps, that gives the screen enough incline that is isnt poking over the end of your desk
put a couple stops on the bottom of the "ramps" so the screen can not just slide off, and thats it
sit at your desk, play tables in full cabinet view, and in 5 seconds it goes back to being a normal desk.
And you probably dont have a damned 7.1 receiver sitting on the desk to screw things up LOL, but i kind of like it there as it puts the center of the screen smack dead center of eye level.

One of these days i pull put it on a VESA arm or something, and figure some other place for the receiver 


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Posted 11 September 2021 - 11:26 AM

I didn't realize the difference between the VP9 cabinet and desktop sections, so I learned something new by way of this thread.  Thanks for responding!

 

Also thanks for explaining the letters, all of it makes more sense now that I am looking through it with this knew knowledge.  

 

User error and I have it all fixed.







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