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[bigus1]

File Name: Earthshaker (Williams 1989)_Bigus(MOD)

File Submitter: bigus1

File Submitted: 08 Apr 2021

File Category: VPX/VPinMAME - MOD Tables

Author(s): Bigus1, 32assassin
Manufacturer: Williams
Year: 1989
Permission to MOD?: Unspecified

This stunner from 32assassin is just the best fun.
I've given it a makeover.
2.2 has VR room with dual Backglasses for both FlexDMD from Scutters
and standard LED scoring -Thanks Mike DA Spike
3.0 plays, sounds and looks much better and hopefully no more ball traps.
Enjoy

Click here to download this file

[32assassin]

I thought I asked you to not mod any of my tables

Unless you   made major changes.  

 

Your mods with my personal settings are not  

 

I asked Noah to removew all you unhotirsied mods of my tables.  and he basically said. no

 

so much for respecting authros wishies.

 

so like many before me.    Its been fun so good by to all

Edited by 32assassin, 08 April 2021 - 08:20 AM.

[Hawyer]

What just happened?

[lukpcn]

I thought I asked you to not mod any of my tables

Unless you   made major changes.  

 

Your mods with my personal settings are not  

 

I asked Noah to removew all you unhotirsied mods of my tables.  and he basically said. no

 

so much for respecting authros wishies.

 

so like many before me.    Its been fun so good by to all

 

I'm sad, Your tables are gr8. Downloaded todays mod by bigus1, loaded Yours, then his... deleted his...
 

[bigus1]

My apologies to you 32assassin. I believed that I had been following your wishes all along. It's not easy to define and I've not had any word from you since your initial request, so I assumed it was all OK. 

You told me "I don't mind you modding my tables, but I want to see significant changes".  I thought I had been doing just that. And I took that as qualified permission.

After that, you freely sent me your Godzilla resources when I inquired, and I thought we were cool. You never indicated otherwise.

Sorry Mate.

[giovanni1966]

I think everyone knows who did most of the work at each table. But it is also a fact that some tables cannot be played properly without revising them; e.g. The Bally Game Show, where it was not possible to complete the left loop. So I would like to thank 32Assassin first and foremost, but also Bigus for his revision.

[bietekwiet]

I have enjoyed 32Assassin tables and also some of the Bigus mods....so thanks to you both.

[bolt]

Thank you 32assassin and bigus for this mod.

[marcio clauss]

Great table thanks for the work 32assassin and Bigus1

Edited by marcio clauss, 08 April 2021 - 01:06 PM.

[Darkiller]

agree with all.

thank you to Assassin for the table and to Bigus for the mod.

I don't believe Bigus tried anything deceptive, he is always straight forward saying whom this table comes from.

 

I think guys should stop being overly sensitive about this: this is a hobby, they decide to offer their great work and we thank them for, but there is no money involved so why react like this as if it was a steal of property? 

 

I don't understand the seriouness of the accusations sometimes.

 

I think I can speak for all of us in this hobby in that we are all more than grateful for the incredible time that you must be putting doing this and we applaud and thank you for it.

 

now once the creator has decided to put his work online for us all to enjoy, why start refusing others who want to mod it? 

 

a mystery to me.

[Davor Lipovac]

1-First of all thanks to 32assassin for his fantastic tables! ... We all know that it is you who directs the orchestra ...

 

2-Bigus you made a great mod as always Thanks ...

[Darkiller]

you guys rock! common, let's all have fun and enjoy!

[Practicedummy]

Excellent job on this table! Best playing version of this pin I have ever played.

[jino0372]

agree with all.

thank you to Assassin for the table and to Bigus for the mod.

I don't believe Bigus tried anything deceptive, he is always straight forward saying whom this table comes from.

 

I think guys should stop being overly sensitive about this: this is a hobby, they decide to offer their great work and we thank them for, but there is no money involved so why react like this as if it was a steal of property? 

 

I don't understand the seriouness of the accusations sometimes.

 

I think I can speak for all of us in this hobby in that we are all more than grateful for the incredible time that you must be putting doing this and we applaud and thank you for it.

 

now once the creator has decided to put his work online for us all to enjoy, why start refusing others who want to mod it? 

 

a mystery to me.

 

You are correct...it is a mystery to you...Bigus...and the majority of the newcomers to Virtual Pinball and the reason all of the long time table creators, like 32assassin's, are leaving the hobby.  I saw on VPU that knorr and laylow are pull this stuff.  You and Bigus better start learning how to actually create a table.  What's Bigus going to do when there is no more tables to add his special magical "mods" too.

[hungrybay101]

agree with all.

thank you to Assassin for the table and to Bigus for the mod.

I don't believe Bigus tried anything deceptive, he is always straight forward saying whom this table comes from.

 

I think guys should stop being overly sensitive about this: this is a hobby, they decide to offer their great work and we thank them for, but there is no money involved so why react like this as if it was a steal of property? 

 

I don't understand the seriouness of the accusations sometimes.

 

I think I can speak for all of us in this hobby in that we are all more than grateful for the incredible time that you must be putting doing this and we applaud and thank you for it.

 

now once the creator has decided to put his work online for us all to enjoy, why start refusing others who want to mod it? 

 

a mystery to me.

What's not to understand? If a table author does not want someone modding their table, and they specify so on the original table file, then do not mod the table... period.

 

It doesn't matter if someone is trying to "improve" their table. That's not the point. They violated the wishes and the boundaries of the author. The least they could have done was contact the author for permission before modding it. If they say no, then leave it at that. Don't mod the table.

 

And if a table author says don't mod unless you (insert condition, such as make significant changes), that is not automatic permission to mod. That means you should send your mod to the author for review and approval before publishing it.

 

Shame on Noah for not looking into this and enforcing the rules so that table authors are not de-motivated to participate in the community. Heck, this even de-motivated me from sharing a new table I'm working on when it's finished... at least in the VPF community. If I know VPF is not going to enforce rules on table mods, then what's the point?

Edited by hungrybay101, 08 April 2021 - 01:12 PM.

[Noah Fentz]

I thought I asked you to not mod any of my tables
Unless you   made major changes.  
 
Your mods with my personal settings are not  
 
I asked Noah to removew all you unhotirsied mods of my tables.  and he basically said. no
 
so much for respecting authros wishies.
 
so like many before me.    Its been fun so good by to all

You did this table all by yourself, then? You didn't use any resources from the previous versions or Capt Neo's playfield scan? THIS is what I'm talking about. Neo is a personal friend of mine who does playfield restoration. I bet you don't even credit him elsewhere. Maybe you did, but I wouldn't know. I don't visit sites that impersonate being the 'community'.

What this hobby needs is for people to get a grip and either give freely, or get out. The f'n egos and politics are over the top and toxic to this community.

I know it takes a lot of work. I know it takes talent. It also takes humility and generosity, not an iron fist. We're here to have FUN and ENJOY this HOBBY.

[Darkiller]

 

agree with all.

thank you to Assassin for the table and to Bigus for the mod.

I don't believe Bigus tried anything deceptive, he is always straight forward saying whom this table comes from.

 

I think guys should stop being overly sensitive about this: this is a hobby, they decide to offer their great work and we thank them for, but there is no money involved so why react like this as if it was a steal of property? 

 

I don't understand the seriouness of the accusations sometimes.

 

I think I can speak for all of us in this hobby in that we are all more than grateful for the incredible time that you must be putting doing this and we applaud and thank you for it.

 

now once the creator has decided to put his work online for us all to enjoy, why start refusing others who want to mod it? 

 

a mystery to me.

 

You are correct...it is a mystery to you...Bigus...and the majority of the newcomers to Virtual Pinball and the reason all of the long time table creators, like 32assassin's, are leaving the hobby.  I saw on VPU that knorr and laylow are pull this stuff.  You and Bigus better start learning how to actually create a table.  What's Bigus going to do when there is no more tables to add his special magical "mods" too.

 

 

seriously dude? this is a mean post.

I reckon you should chill out man and seriously get yoursefl a life aside from virtual pinball... you're way too serious about it.

 

agree with all.

thank you to Assassin for the table and to Bigus for the mod.

I don't believe Bigus tried anything deceptive, he is always straight forward saying whom this table comes from.

 

I think guys should stop being overly sensitive about this: this is a hobby, they decide to offer their great work and we thank them for, but there is no money involved so why react like this as if it was a steal of property? 

 

I don't understand the seriouness of the accusations sometimes.

 

I think I can speak for all of us in this hobby in that we are all more than grateful for the incredible time that you must be putting doing this and we applaud and thank you for it.

 

now once the creator has decided to put his work online for us all to enjoy, why start refusing others who want to mod it? 

 

a mystery to me.

What's not to understand? If a table author does not want someone modding their table, and they specify so on the original table file, then do not mod the table... period.

 

I do understand this.

the matter of the fact is that Bigus says he asked and got no "no" reply.

I think, like I said, that Bigus is a fair and square and always gives props its due.

obviously if someones says, for reasons that are his, "I don't want this table to be modded" then yes it should be respected as it is and no questions asked.

 

here, not the case apparently. Bigus did his due diliegence and asked.

 

all of you should really chill.

 

 

 

 

I thought I asked you to not mod any of my tables
Unless you   made major changes.  
 
Your mods with my personal settings are not  
 
I asked Noah to removew all you unhotirsied mods of my tables.  and he basically said. no
 
so much for respecting authros wishies.
 
so like many before me.    Its been fun so good by to all

What this hobby needs is for people to get a grip and either give freely, or get out. The f'n egos are over the top and toxic to this community.

I know it takes a lot of work. I know it takes talent. It also takes humility and generosity, not an iron fist. We're here to have FUN and ENJOY this HOBBY.

 

AMEN! 

Edited by Darkiller, 08 April 2021 - 01:21 PM.

[hungrybay101]

I do understand this.

the matter of the fact is that Bigus says he asked and got no "no" reply.

I think, like I said, that Bigus is a fair and square and always gives props its due.

obviously if someones says, for reasons that are his, "I don't want this table to be modded" then yes it should be respected as it is and no questions asked.

 

here, not the case apparently. Bigus did his due diliegence and asked.

 

Again, it does not matter what someone's conceived notions are of the person who modded the table. It is an unauthorized mod (as you indicated) because Bigus got a no. In fact, ignorance can no longer be argued if Bigus asked and got a no, which makes me even more skeptical of them.

 

Edit: Misread: I thought the "no no" was a typo and you meant "a no". Still, if someone asks and does not get a no reply, that is not an automatic yes. It falls within the same realm of not asking at all (because a response was not received). So it is still an unauthorized mod.

Edited by hungrybay101, 08 April 2021 - 01:32 PM.

[Darkiller]

common; it's not like Bigus is a "newcomer" in this community right? it's not like we "find out about this wacky dude" today, right?

He's been doing a fab job for us all to enjoy for some time now and LOTS of tables have been greatly enhanced thanks to him.

I don't think we should obliterate the man based on his supposedly "conceived notions" of this or that, which in all fairness are ours not his', because as far as he is concerned: he had all the rights to do it and he thanked 32assassins first and foremost before putting himself forward with his mod.

 

I won't get the big fuss, sorry, and it's a real shame this hobby is turning into threads like this.

 

Let's just play pinball.

Edited by Darkiller, 08 April 2021 - 01:33 PM.

[Noah Fentz]

 

I do understand this.

the matter of the fact is that Bigus says he asked and got no "no" reply.

I think, like I said, that Bigus is a fair and square and always gives props its due.

obviously if someones says, for reasons that are his, "I don't want this table to be modded" then yes it should be respected as it is and no questions asked.

 

here, not the case apparently. Bigus did his due diliegence and asked.

 

Again, it does not matter what someone's conceived notions are of the person who modded the table. It is an unauthorized mod (as you indicated) because Bigus got a no. In fact, ignorance can no longer be argued if Bigus asked and got a no, which makes me even more skeptical of them.

 

Edit: Misread: I thought the "no no" was a typo and you meant "a no". Still, if someone asks and does not get a no reply, that is not an automatic yes. It falls within the same realm of not asking at all (because a response was not received). So it is still an unauthorized mod.

 

 

We actually have a 30 day rule here. No response, have at it. People come and go, but the hobby lives on.