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[cdnbum88]

Good morning.

 

Looking for some assistance as I have not been successful with getting my real DMD to display in FP and in FX3. I believe I have followed the wiki, read forums to help and a few have helped me directly but with no success. I have it working for majority of tables in VPX. I am using pinup player/popper as my front end.

 

I have scraped all the FP platforms (real, interceptor ...) and looking for some help to start from scratch.

 

Hoping someone in the forum that has a PinDMDv3 that has recently had success setting theirs up, I would greatly appreciate some help.

 

Thanks in advance.

[wiesshund]

For FP, you need futureDMD set up

do you have that already?

[cdnbum88]

I did but could not get it to work so would need to start that process over and understand the steps to make it work properly.

 

Thanks again Weisshund for your continued help on this topic.

[HiRez00]

i will try to address the Pinball FX3 dmd issues seeing that I don't use Future Pinball anymore.

 

1.) What front end system are you using? Edit: Didn't see you were using popper ... I use PinballX so I am not sure I will be very much help because I send a cmd line from PinballX to start the dmdext and have it mirror the FX3 dmd.

 

2.) Do you have the latest dmdext?

 

3.) Are you running pinball fx 3 in cabinet mode?

Edited by HiRez00, 12 February 2021 - 09:12 PM.

[wiesshund]

I did but could not get it to work so would need to start that process over and understand the steps to make it work properly.

 

Thanks again Weisshund for your continued help on this topic.

 

One thing to keep in mind
If an FP table has no DMD object, you will get no DMD

and DMD object is not the same as a HUD DMD object

That part you kind of have to look at on a per table basis

 

You will have to wait till later this evening when i can get to my desktop, as it has futureDMD on it even though i have no present use for it (No dedicated 3rd screen)

but i did have it on there, as well as config examples and command line examples for having a front end launch it on a per table basis

 

But the biggest thing i found with it was not futureDMD itself, but that many tables used either a HUD DMD display, which futureDMD can not see
or used an Overlay that looked like a DMD, which futureDMD can also not see

And then some tables used several DMD's of which futureDMD can only see one of them, and it was kind of random as to which one it would pick up on.

Edited by wiesshund, 12 February 2021 - 09:28 PM.

[cdnbum88]

i will try to address the Pinball FX3 dmd issues seeing that I don't use Future Pinball anymore.

 

1.) What front end system are you using? Edit: Didn't see you were using popper ... I use PinballX so I am not sure I will be very much help because I send a cmd line from PinballX to start the dmdext and have it mirror the FX3 dmd. - Yes using popper front end

 

2.) Do you have the latest dmdext? - I believe I do yes

 

3.) Are you running pinball fx 3 in cabinet mode? Yes

 

I did but could not get it to work so would need to start that process over and understand the steps to make it work properly.

 

Thanks again Weisshund for your continued help on this topic.

 

One thing to keep in mind
If an FP table has no DMD object, you will get no DMD

and DMD object is not the same as a HUD DMD object

That part you kind of have to look at on a per table basis

 

You will have to wait till later this evening when i can get to my desktop, as it has futureDMD on it even though i have no present use for it (No dedicated 3rd screen)

but i did have it on there, as well as config examples and command line examples for having a front end launch it on a per table basis

 

But the biggest thing i found with it was not futureDMD itself, but that many tables used either a HUD DMD display, which futureDMD can not see
or used an Overlay that looked like a DMD, which futureDMD can also not see

And then some tables used several DMD's of which futureDMD can only see one of them, and it was kind of random as to which one it would pick up on.

 

How would I be able to determine if a table has HUD vs DMD? Something in the script?

I don't have many FP tables, but if the few I have 'should' work with DMD, they that would be ideal.

I will have to download FutureDMD again and attempt to setup. 

So interceptor I see many use with FP, that is the older app vs FutureDMD?

 

Will futuredmd work with FX3? I know you noted you don't have FX3, but possibly others that know.

[wiesshund]

 

i will try to address the Pinball FX3 dmd issues seeing that I don't use Future Pinball anymore.

 

1.) What front end system are you using? Edit: Didn't see you were using popper ... I use PinballX so I am not sure I will be very much help because I send a cmd line from PinballX to start the dmdext and have it mirror the FX3 dmd. - Yes using popper front end

 

2.) Do you have the latest dmdext? - I believe I do yes

 

3.) Are you running pinball fx 3 in cabinet mode? Yes

 

I did but could not get it to work so would need to start that process over and understand the steps to make it work properly.

 

Thanks again Weisshund for your continued help on this topic.

 

One thing to keep in mind
If an FP table has no DMD object, you will get no DMD

and DMD object is not the same as a HUD DMD object

That part you kind of have to look at on a per table basis

 

You will have to wait till later this evening when i can get to my desktop, as it has futureDMD on it even though i have no present use for it (No dedicated 3rd screen)

but i did have it on there, as well as config examples and command line examples for having a front end launch it on a per table basis

 

But the biggest thing i found with it was not futureDMD itself, but that many tables used either a HUD DMD display, which futureDMD can not see
or used an Overlay that looked like a DMD, which futureDMD can also not see

And then some tables used several DMD's of which futureDMD can only see one of them, and it was kind of random as to which one it would pick up on.

 

How would I be able to determine if a table has HUD vs DMD? Something in the script?

I don't have many FP tables, but if the few I have 'should' work with DMD, they that would be ideal.

I will have to download FutureDMD again and attempt to setup. 

So interceptor I see many use with FP, that is the older app vs FutureDMD?

 

Will futuredmd work with FX3? I know you noted you don't have FX3, but possibly others that know.

 

 

FutureDMD is only for FuturePinball
FX3 uses freezys, it just uses the EXE form of freezy's dmdext.exe

 

In FP editor, the DMD objects are on the translite

if an object is a DMD it can be directed to a DMD screen
If object is a HUD DMD, it can not

 

Any other object type can not, even if it looks like it shows DMD type content.

 

FutureDMD can only read what the table is writing to a DMD object

[TerryRed]

FPIntercept = mirrors 128x32 FP DMD to real DMDs only

 

FutureDMD = mirrors 128x32 FP DMD to LCD monitors only

 

PUPDDMD = can mirror pup LCD "dmd" display to real DMD for tables that use it (PinEvent)... and does this through dmdext (dmddevice.dll)

 

dmdext.exe = for fx3 and tpa only

Edited by TerryRed, 13 February 2021 - 11:45 AM.

[cdnbum88]

FPIntercept = mirrors 128x32 FP DMD to real DMDs only

 

FutureDMD = mirrors 128x32 FP DMD to LCD monitors only

 

PUPDDMD = can mirror pup LCD "dmd" display to real DMD for tables that use it (PinEvent)... and does this through dmdext (dmddevice.dll)

 

dmdext.exe = for fx3 and tpa only

Thanks Terry.

 

So I should be using FPintercept for FP tables as I have a pindmdv3 real DMD than? 

Do I need Pupdmd for using the pup packs for the VPX tables?

I am using Freezy 1.8 for my VPX tables and all seem to work, for those that have one.

[Outhere]

FPintercept  Only works with a Real DMD

It would seem that a pindmdv3 is a little more finicky to set up But should work with the items below

I have a ( real DMD ) Pin 2 DMD and this is what I use
With FP I use FutureDMD & PUPDMD And Freezy -- https://www.nailbust..._future_pinball
With FX2/FX3 I use PUPDMD And Freezy  -- https://www.nailbust...p?id=pupdmd_fx3

[cdnbum88]

I believe I have FX3 DMD working. Thank you.

 

As for FP, it looks like the DMD activates when before I got nothing. It turns all yellow/gold colored. One table deadpool I did see deadpool on the DMD, but I can't replicate that and no others besides the gold/yellow dots happen.

 

Also, side note, why is it most FP table are skinny? I look to change the aspect like in VPX and they don't look as good, Am I doing something wrong to fir=t my cabinet screen?

 

As always, thanks for your assistance.

[Outhere]

I believe I have FX3 DMD working. Thank you.

 

As for FP, it looks like the DMD activates when before I got nothing. It turns all yellow/gold colored. One table deadpool I did see deadpool on the DMD, but I can't replicate that and no others besides the gold/yellow dots happen.

 

Also, side note, why is it most FP table are skinny? I look to change the aspect like in VPX and they don't look as good, Am I doing something wrong to fir=t my cabinet screen?

 

As always, thanks for your assistance.

Looks like you need to revisit the FP Guide
See -- Terryred's Guide  --- https://www.vpforums...=38170&p=381730
 

[cdnbum88]

Revisited Terry's guide and also Nailbusters wiki on these topics and as Outhere noted

With FP I use FutureDMD & PUPDMD And Freezy -- https://www.nailbust..._future_pinball
With FX2/FX3 I use PUPDMD And Freezy  -- https://www.nailbust...p?id=pupdmd_fx3

 

Looks like things are working pretty good. There are some FP that I had to (as per MrMoose) to update translite DMD to 123x32 as many had 128x16 and then also move them off screen as to not have both on BG and DMD.

 

Appreciate everyone's assistance.

 

Thanks

[charlespinball]

make sure you have OpenGLL.dll file in your folder or wont work