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[Karlor]

hi all,

been away a while and doing a frsh install.. did the 10.6 installer.. then added the vr files from just before the newest.. and i get an error with :

GL Error 0xffffffff unknown in renderdevice.cpp;'988

 

then:

initPin3D error code: 80004005

 

then it crashes out..

 

any ideas?

 

got it pretty easy last time but this is fresh windows and everything.. was running win 7 and nvdea card.. now windows 10 and amd card could that be a problem?

 

 

[lizard]

Check this thread out, Maybe related. https://www.vpforums...c=41180&page=18

[Karlor]

Check this thread out, Maybe related. https://www.vpforums...c=41180&page=18

Thanks for the link. I gave it a look over and couldn't find anything that helped..

 

I always make sure VPX is capable of running on flat screen so its not an issue with vanilla VPX it runs fine....

 

I tried VPX 5 and 6 from this site and tried different combos off older versions of VPVR.. no joy

 

I was able to get the VR split screen to show  up on my screen but on the headset its just weird black.. NOT the void blackness but just  weird out of focus blackness.. no table in  headset but it is showing on my screen with head tacking..

 

I even dug out the versions i used when VPVR first came out, vpx 5 and like maybe the 3rd or 4th version of vpvr from back then.. no luck.. same weird behavior..

 

I think its my AMD card(8GB 480 or 470 i forget). Any ideas on how to get AMD and openGL to work? I don't want to swap GPUs.. but I mite have to dig it out just to test..

 

Future Pinball VR is working for me, so that'll help scratch the itch but I needs me some VPX VR Freddy and STTNG boys!

 

 

I got things heavily overclocked could that be an issue?

[Ben Logan]

Hey Karlor,

 

Which headset are you using? 

[Karlor]

Hey Karlor,

 

Which headset are you using? 

Hi again, its been awhile glad to see most o the regs still hanging out and talkin pinball hope everyone is doing good

 

Im still using my old Vive with wireless adapter. I've held off on buying a new headset but now that I see my wireless adapter now works on newer headsets Im looking into it.. I'd rather get a 3090 first but I cant pay a scalper.. I mean I could but I wont lol..

 

I even sold almost all my old collectibles just to have the extra cash ready! Im also thinking of getting the index controllers soon.. but not until Christmas Steam bill gets paid.. I went nuts.. couldn't help it.. (IL 2 Sturmovik and Squadrons are sweeeet)

 

Anyway VR pinball.. yeah I dont know Id bet its the GPU in my case. Ive had a few issues with AMD compatibility unfortunately.

[Caligula_]

 

Hey Karlor,

 

Which headset are you using? 

Hi again, its been awhile glad to see most o the regs still hanging out and talkin pinball hope everyone is doing good

 

Im still using my old Vive with wireless adapter. I've held off on buying a new headset but now that I see my wireless adapter now works on newer headsets Im looking into it.. I'd rather get a 3090 first but I cant pay a scalper.. I mean I could but I wont lol..

 

I even sold almost all my old collectibles just to have the extra cash ready! Im also thinking of getting the index controllers soon.. but not until Christmas Steam bill gets paid.. I went nuts.. couldn't help it.. (IL 2 Sturmovik and Squadrons are sweeeet)

 

Anyway VR pinball.. yeah I dont know Id bet its the GPU in my case. Ive had a few issues with AMD compatibility unfortunately.

 

Yes AMD cards are picky. Which settings do you use in Preferences->VR Options->Performance and Troubleshooting? changing between the different RGB/RGBA 8/16bit modes might help. I also uploaded a new build under https://sourceforge....cts/vpvr/files/ based on VPX 10.7

[Karlor]

 

 

Hey Karlor,

 

Which headset are you using? 

Hi again, its been awhile glad to see most o the regs still hanging out and talkin pinball hope everyone is doing good

 

Im still using my old Vive with wireless adapter. I've held off on buying a new headset but now that I see my wireless adapter now works on newer headsets Im looking into it.. I'd rather get a 3090 first but I cant pay a scalper.. I mean I could but I wont lol..

 

I even sold almost all my old collectibles just to have the extra cash ready! Im also thinking of getting the index controllers soon.. but not until Christmas Steam bill gets paid.. I went nuts.. couldn't help it.. (IL 2 Sturmovik and Squadrons are sweeeet)

 

Anyway VR pinball.. yeah I dont know Id bet its the GPU in my case. Ive had a few issues with AMD compatibility unfortunately.

 

Yes AMD cards are picky. Which settings do you use in Preferences->VR Options->Performance and Troubleshooting? changing between the different RGB/RGBA 8/16bit modes might help. I also uploaded a new build under https://sourceforge....cts/vpvr/files/ based on VPX 10.7

 

 

Hey Calig! Glad to see your still at it, thanks to you and the rest, it really is awesome.

 

Yeah Ive only had a few compatibility issues with the RX 480 so far.  Its a great lil GPU for like $130 a couple years back and has 8GB..  Ive ran into some emulator issues with it.. Some N64 games an the like..

 

I will definitely try tweaking those settings and check to see what they're set at!

 

Cant wait to try the new version, maybe the stars will align and it'll go without a GPU swap. I do have my old 5.5GB Titan dug out and waiting or some testing before tonights OC session lol

 

Also Future pinball WAS working for me, but now its about 25% of the time it actually sends to the headset. Maybe I'm missing some prerequisites? This is a pretty fresh install of Windows 10. Have a lot of the Vis C and others but maybe missed one..

 

Is OpenVR something I need to install? What other prerequisites? Anyone have a list or something maybe?

 

UPDATE: Just updated to VPX 10.7 latest beta and newest VPVR and still getting the errors from the fist posts.. Next stop GPU swap.

Edited by Karlor, 09 January 2021 - 12:34 AM.

[Karlor]

UPDATE 2:

It was the AMD card. The old Titan works like a champ. Wish the 480 would work with VPX VR but at least its working!

 

Now to load some tables and play till 4 am!

 

Anyone know where I can get a 3090 for "around" retail price you guys let me know!!.. never had such a hard time trying to spend $1500 lol but damn I needs me that card..

[Rajo Joey]

 

Hey Karlor,
 
Which headset are you using? 

Hi again, its been awhile glad to see most o the regs still hanging out and talkin pinball hope everyone is doing good
 
Im still using my old Vive with wireless adapter. I've held off on buying a new headset but now that I see my wireless adapter now works on newer headsets Im looking into it.. I'd rather get a 3090 first but I cant pay a scalper.. I mean I could but I wont lol..
 
I even sold almost all my old collectibles just to have the extra cash ready! Im also thinking of getting the index controllers soon.. but not until Christmas Steam bill gets paid.. I went nuts.. couldn't help it.. (IL 2 Sturmovik and Squadrons are sweeeet)
 
Anyway VR pinball.. yeah I dont know Id bet its the GPU in my case. Ive had a few issues with AMD compatibility unfortunately.
 

Yes AMD cards are picky. Which settings do you use in Preferences->VR Options->Performance and Troubleshooting? changing between the different RGB/RGBA 8/16bit modes might help. I also uploaded a new build under https://sourceforge....cts/vpvr/files/ based on VPX 10.7

@Caligula_
There is a new VPinball_GL.exe from 28.12.2020.
Is yours based on this? Or is it a different one? And if, what are the differences?

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[Karlor]

Getting this error on a few VR room tables:

 

Line:1

Index was out o range. Must bee non-negative and less than the size of collection. Parameter name:index

 

any tips?

Edited by Karlor, 09 January 2021 - 10:42 AM.

[RYSr]

 

 

Hey Karlor,

 

Which headset are you using? 

Hi again, its been awhile glad to see most o the regs still hanging out and talkin pinball hope everyone is doing good

 

Im still using my old Vive with wireless adapter. I've held off on buying a new headset but now that I see my wireless adapter now works on newer headsets Im looking into it.. I'd rather get a 3090 first but I cant pay a scalper.. I mean I could but I wont lol..

 

I even sold almost all my old collectibles just to have the extra cash ready! Im also thinking of getting the index controllers soon.. but not until Christmas Steam bill gets paid.. I went nuts.. couldn't help it.. (IL 2 Sturmovik and Squadrons are sweeeet)

 

Anyway VR pinball.. yeah I dont know Id bet its the GPU in my case. Ive had a few issues with AMD compatibility unfortunately.

 

Yes AMD cards are picky. Which settings do you use in Preferences->VR Options->Performance and Troubleshooting? changing between the different RGB/RGBA 8/16bit modes might help. I also uploaded a new build under https://sourceforge....cts/vpvr/files/ based on VPX 10.7

 

@caligula It's great to see you back working on VPVR again! Does the new build include all the other improvements/updates from the 10.6 versions that were released in the last several months? or is that going to be a separate fork?
 

Edited by RYSr, 09 January 2021 - 03:24 PM.

[Caligula_]

Getting this error on a few VR room tables:

 

Line:1

Index was out o range. Must bee non-negative and less than the size of collection. Parameter name:index

 

any tips?

No tips, but can you give me some additional information (Table, 32/64bit...) and a screenshot of the error? Also for the build I uploaded, its ported to the latess 10.7beta, has some tweaks and bugfixes, but the commits from Djrobx and Rawnei on the github repository are still missing. I try to add them next week.

[Karlor]

 

Getting this error on a few VR room tables:

 

Line:1

Index was out o range. Must bee non-negative and less than the size of collection. Parameter name:index

 

any tips?

No tips, but can you give me some additional information (Table, 32/64bit...) and a screenshot of the error? Also for the build I uploaded, its ported to the latess 10.7beta, has some tweaks and bugfixes, but the commits from Djrobx and Rawnei on the github repository are still missing. I try to add them next week.

 

I was using the latest VPX 10.7 beta from this website and the newest version of VR when I was getting those index errors. I tried both 64 and 32 VR versions and had same errors. These "new" errors are after the GPU swap, so Im on NVIDIA not AMD anymore. Some VR rooms worked without the error the ones that wouldn't are below..

 

The tables where:

TOTAN

https://www.vpforums...&showfile=14454

 

TZ:

https://vpinball.com...skitso-mod-2-0/

 

STTNG:

https://vpinball.com...-williams-1993/

 

Fathom:

https://vpinball.com...hom-bally-1981/

 

There were others but I cant remember them.

 

I am NOW using the vpx 6 all in one and these VR files:

https://vpinball.com...g-files/page/2/

 

No issues with the above build on any VR ROOM tables except or no sound on Stargate but Im having that  issue even in flat screen with Stargate.

 

Let me know if there is other specific information you would like to know for troubleshooting and improving.

 

Ill be sure to grab screenies of future errors as well. For now all seems to be working with above build.

 

thanks again for the VR,... it really is a dream come true. sounds corny but for a guy like me having the ability to play these great works off art in 3d VR is a special treat... it really is. Thanks to all!

Edited by Karlor, 10 January 2021 - 10:08 PM.

[RYSr]

@Karlor

 

The latest VPVR built is off of VP10.7 R4367 Was that the version you had installed?

Also was the10.7 version of VPVR  VpinballX_gl.exe you used dated 1/8/2021?

 

I am looking to upgrade to both of these to test the new VPVR myself.

I realize that !0.7 is still a beta and their is an issue that if you modify a table in !0.7 and save it it may not work in 10.6 anymore. So I will setup a test tables directory for it's use.

[Karlor]

@Karlor

 

The latest VPVR built is off of VP10.7 R4367 Was that the version you had installed?

Also was the10.7 version of VPVR  VpinballX_gl.exe you used dated 1/8/2021?

 

I am looking to upgrade to both of these to test the new VPVR myself.

I realize that !0.7 is still a beta and their is an issue that if you modify a table in !0.7 and save it it may not work in 10.6 anymore. So I will setup a test tables directory for it's use.

Howdy!

Yes I did a brand new fresh install each time during the trouble shooting. Things are slightly contusing right this min as VPX is at 10.6-10.7 and VR is the same lol

 

but yes when I was getting the index errors I was on the newest VPX 10.7  beta(from this site I believe) and he newest VR 10.7 from Caligulas post above.

 

It worked fine but on some tables it would crash out with the index error.

 

I have sense reverted to VPX 10.6 newest and the VR files I linked to above. Works like a charm. Haven't tested pups or anything extra, just getting it going phase right now.

 

Also if you haven't yet you gota try the VR launcher.. its incredibly sexy and works really good.

Edited by Karlor, 11 January 2021 - 12:21 AM.

[RYSr]

@Caligula_

@Karlor I upgraded my CAB to the VPX10.7 beta and the VPVR 1-8-21 versions. I didn't not have the index errors on the tables you mentioned above.

Just started testing for now, There are a couple new options in the VR properties for the DMD and Backglass don't understand yet, but the defaults seem to be working as long as the VPM external display is selected on tables. The VR-Launcher also works with the upgrades. I still need to test a table that's using pup packs. Looking good so far.

Update There appear to be issues with the alphanumeric test placing in the Gottleib Preimer B2s backglasses and UltraDMD in the Backglass on the HMD but look OK on the computer backglass monitor. PUP Player seems to work OK also. The problem isn't happening in VP10.7 if I load it that way, it only happens in the VPVR 10.7 version. Willy Wonka had a graphic distortion that made it unplayable. Hopefully when Sebastian includes the latest updates form the current 10.6 versions these issues will be corrected.

 

Took some screen shots of the new version propertities screens. The Keys menu looks the same , but the VR options menu has some new entries on the lower right side. see attachments..

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Edited by RYSr, 14 January 2021 - 02:41 PM.

[Karlor]

@Caligula_

@Karlor I upgraded my CAB to the VPX10.7 beta and the VPVR 1-8-21 versions. I didn't not have the index errors on the tables you mentioned above.

Just started testing for now, There are a couple new options in the VR properties for the DMD and Backglass don't understand yet, but the defaults seem to be working as long as the VPM external display is selected on tables. The VR-Launcher also works with the upgrades. I still need to test a table that's using pup packs. Looking good so far.

Ok sweet so if its working on yours and others then thats good news. It means its working Ive just got something to tweak down the road.. Right now I got a good sweet spot going  so  just coasting for a bit and enjoying having it working lol

 

Man I really dig that launcher.. thats why I love this VR pinball.. you get jaw dropped every time you try something out!

 

Let me know if you get PUPs working, I haven't installed it yet.. I also want try color DMDs, never had that installed.. Do you use any color DMDs?

 

 

[RYSr]

Hi Karlor

The PUP Player seems to work fine, I made an update in my previous post. I love the color displays. Many tables you can just download the pal and Vni files and put them in a  altcolor directory under the roms name to get colorization. then Set the VPm display to external/color. Check to 2 other sites for them.The other way you need a Colorized ROM their harder to make by applying a patch. Oh don't forget to setup Freezy's DMDdevice files.

On your Stargate with the sound problem you may need a more current Rom. They made some changes in VPM and some of the older versions have sound problems. I just had to download a updated ROM for Dr Who the other day on the other site. You can run setup in Vpinmame and do a test on the stargate ROM and also check it to see if the sound portion of the code is valid.

Edited by RYSr, 13 January 2021 - 01:33 AM.

[Karlor]

Hi Karlor

The PUP Player seems to work fine, I made an update in my previous post. I love the color displays. Many tables you can just download the pal and Vni files and put them in a  altcolor directory under the roms name to get colorization. then Set the VPm display to external/color. Check to 2 other sites for them.The other way you need a Colorized ROM their harder to make by applying a patch. Oh don't forget to setup Freezy's DMDdevice files.

On your Stargate with the sound problem you may need a more current Rom. They made some changes in VPM and some of the older versions have sound problems. I just had to download a updated ROM for Dr Who the other day on the other site. You can run setup in Vpinmame and do a test on the stargate ROM and also check it to see if the sound portion of the code is valid.

Ok I think I have Freezy installed and PUP. Just working on downloading some packs to try. All seems to be configured at least to the set up videos..

 

A few questions:

Im not using a cab Im all VR, so when I'm setting different things up do I need to go with single screen options or should I set up for multiple screens? Like with B2S and PUP..

 

Dracula VR came with a color DMD option I think as it comes with an alt_color folder.. where do I put that folder?.. when I did freezy I didn't notice any new folders.. where do I put the alt color folder for color DMDs?

 

Stargate was a ROM issue, I found a huge pack on Internet Archive and they seem to work from what Ive tried! check my signature iff interested!

Edited by Karlor, 13 January 2021 - 10:52 PM.

[RYSr]

I use my CAB which is a dual screen, so I'm not sure how to advise you on a HMD only display. For VRRoom tables you should be fine, I'm not sure if you use a std table with a Db2s file though. If you use PUP you shouldn't use a Db2s file it may interfere with PUP, I learned that the hard way.

 

As far as the Altcolor folder it goes in the Vinmame folder. Vpinmame\Altcolor. Hope you have yourDMDdevice.ini set correctly. and make sure you hit  F1 during the table and uncheck the show DMD/display box and then check the external and colorize box's.

Edited by RYSr, 13 January 2021 - 11:08 PM.