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#1 jghan

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Posted 12 October 2020 - 01:59 AM

  Is there a setting where I can use one flipper, then use the other without the first flipper going down...off...like a real table flipper?

I have searched and only find physics, but maybe this is how a standard keyboard works, when you press the next key the one you are still holding loses power?

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Posted 12 October 2020 - 03:08 AM

  Is there a setting where I can use one flipper, then use the other without the first flipper going down...off...like a real table flipper?

I have searched and only find physics, but maybe this is how a standard keyboard works, when you press the next key the one you are still holding loses power?

Thanks

 

No, that is not normal, the flippers work independently

I play with both the shift keys on a keyboard, and on laptop with a gamepad, and in both cases the flippers work independently of each other.

 

I do not think i have ever seen a keyboard with a unified shift button, where there is only shift with no left or right, but i guess it is possible?
And i have never seen a modern keyboard that was not polyphonic (though that is technically the wrong term but...)

 

assuming that you are using the default mapping of the shift keys, for giggles remap the flippers to use like J and L

do they work as intended then?


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Posted 12 October 2020 - 06:58 AM

  Is there a setting where I can use one flipper, then use the other without the first flipper going down...off...like a real table flipper?
I have searched and only find physics, but maybe this is how a standard keyboard works, when you press the next key the one you are still holding loses power?
Thanks


That’s a really weird problem... I never heard about a keyboard that loose power when you press 2 keys at the same time... Till now, I always had been played with pc, and I was able to use the two flipper at the same time.

Which kind of computer are use using, and which controller?


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Posted 13 October 2020 - 03:41 AM

Don’t use shift for the flippers. Windows tries to hotkey them.

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Posted 13 October 2020 - 04:02 AM

Don’t use shift for the flippers. Windows tries to hotkey them.

Windows may ask about sticky keys, but you simply turn that off and it never asks again


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Posted 13 October 2020 - 01:18 PM

 I'm using Win 10 with keys mapped to recommended settings using the ipac-2 controller in a 2 screen cabinet, Ryzen 5, GTX 1080 video, I used an Atari widebody cabinet, with 50" screen, and 30" backglass monitor, when one flipper is pressed and kept pressed, then the other flipper is pressed, the first flipper goes down, so the first flipper key loses power when the opposite flipper is pressed, in a real pinball machine this would not happen.

I'll try remapping flippers this weekend, my cabinet has always been this way, I built it one year ago, and have over 900 working tables on it, but still consider myself a novice, even after putting several hundred hours into this...

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Posted 13 October 2020 - 02:28 PM

Sounds like an ipac issue or setting, have not seen that in any of the cabs I've been on.

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Posted 13 October 2020 - 02:32 PM

 I'm using Win 10 with keys mapped to recommended settings using the ipac-2 controller in a 2 screen cabinet, Ryzen 5, GTX 1080 video, I used an Atari widebody cabinet, with 50" screen, and 30" backglass monitor, when one flipper is pressed and kept pressed, then the other flipper is pressed, the first flipper goes down, so the first flipper key loses power when the opposite flipper is pressed, in a real pinball machine this would not happen.

I'll try remapping flippers this weekend, my cabinet has always been this way, I built it one year ago, and have over 900 working tables on it, but still consider myself a novice, even after putting several hundred hours into this...

Thanks for the help

 

i use an ipac2 in my set up and have never come across the problem. try mapping to J and L thats what i use.


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Posted 13 October 2020 - 10:41 PM

I'm using a MiniPAC in my cab and I haven't had this issue either.  I had a similar issue a few years ago on my arcade cabinet using IPAC2 shift key.  If I remember correctly IPAC Shift was causing my issue.  Open WinIPAC and take a look at your Shift key and make sure that IPAC Shift checkbox isn't checked. 



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Posted 22 October 2020 - 02:10 AM

Remapped flippers, unchecked shift, problem solved....Thank you very much for the help



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Posted 22 October 2020 - 05:16 AM

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Posted 22 October 2020 - 06:27 AM

He already fixed it, his USB encoder was shifting(modifier)
he remapped it so he wasnt using the modifier keys


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