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[MajorFrenchy]

This is the support topic for the tutorial SSF setup guide. Please post here if you have any questions or feedback.

[2borG]

I'm thinking about buying some exciters to my cabinet, but I don't know which to buy.

I'm not allowed (by my son and wife) to have the machine very loud, so probably 25W x 4  is a litte overkill. How loud are those 25W exciters?

Edited by 2borG, 20 October 2020 - 11:13 AM.

[wiesshund]

What material type is your cabinet is your cabinet constructed of?
For exciters, that plays a large part in how they will function

[rockclimber]

I am just building my cabinet now. I've used MDF for mine. I fitted two of the exciter speakers as shown in the guide to the front of the cab right near the flipper buttons and have fitted two of the physically smaller DAEX25 exciter's I bought from Amazon near the back of the cab. They all give a really good sound (in my opinion anyway) and you dont have to have them really loud to get some of the tactile feeling through the cabinet. I would say fit them for the sound quality rather than the volume, you can use low volume and still get good sound. Then when they go out you can crank the sound up and have some real fun. I have also installed pinvol software and can use the flipper and magna save keys to quickly and easily adjust the volume of individual tables or global volume on all tables. That was well worth the time setting it up. The other big bonus of the exciters is you wont have to drill holes into your cabinet and fit speaker grilles etc. I toyed with the idea for some time before I commited to do it but I would definately recommend doing it, it transforms the tables so much.

 

[2borG]

My cabinet is an old Gottlieb cabinet, the sides are plywood I think.

The question is, should I buy 4x25W ou 4x10W or even lower?

I'm thinking about this ones:

   https://pt.mouser.co...P-R-1109667.pdf

[wiesshund]

I would use the 25's probably
You can always turn them down, but you can not turn one up more than it is capable of.

Engineered woods are not the worlds greatest conductors of sound vibrations, so a bit more Oomph does not hurt.

[nekreg9]

I previously had SSF working properly in a 7.1 setup. I wanted to move my software to a different drive (I had inadvertently installed visual pinball on my HDD instead of SSD). So I used the Baller Installer to create my new setup after uninstalling Visual Pinball on the old drive. The install worked well and sped up the process.

 

So here's the issue. In Windows, each speaker chimes as it should in the Realtek configuration tool. In VPX, table sound comes does not work for the rear exciters. It seems like the front two exciters play sound that they should (each flipper comes from each exciter). All of the rear bumper sounds comes out of the front right exciter. I did the manual ball movement to check this. I checked VPX and it lists as a 7.1 setup with the Realtek speakers for output on each. My setup is 2.1 for backglass, 2.1 for rear exciters, and 2.1 for front exciters.

 

I started searching around the registry. Below is the Visual Pinball\VP10\Player registry entries. Anyone with a 7.1 SSF setup able to check that against theirs?

 

*wasn't able to post the picture directly here showing the registry*

 

https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing

 

 

 

[wiesshund]

Delete the visual pinball reg key

 

rename your current VPX folder, just put a 1 after the folder name

 

grab this

VPX installer - VPForums.org 
get the VPX6setup.zip

 

Run that and install it to what your renamed folder used to be named
 

once the installer has finished, you can delete that folder and rename yours back again
run setup and setup64 in the pinmame folder, and make sure it registers as installed

run the b2s reg app in the tables folder, make sure B2s is registered

 

Now try a table and see if SSF is still reversed front to rear

 

It has to be the VPX install because you did not do anything else to the cab i dont think?

I can not really think of any other reason your audio is reversed front to rear with VPX in 7.1 mode

[nekreg9]

That fixed the issue. Thanks for the suggestion. It did take some rework as DOF and DOFLinx along with the Teensy connection had issues for some reason. I was able to recover those and the sound is correct now. I was able to update to the 10.6.2 version as well. 

[Kayfabe]

Hello,

 

Thanks so much for the guide. I bought the 3 DX amps but I'm not sure where I can plug the bass into them as there isn't another channel for it. Am I missing something?

 

Thanks again!

 

[wiesshund]

Hello,

 

Thanks so much for the guide. I bought the 3 DX amps but I'm not sure where I can plug the bass into them as there isn't another channel for it. Am I missing something?

 

Thanks again!

 

 

Generically, your motherboard has

1 plug that is mic (usually Pink)
1 plug that is front left/right (usually green)
1 plug that is rear left/right (usually black)

1 plug that is center/LFR(sub)  (usually orange/Yellow, can be blue if line-in is a shared port, can be green is front port headphone is a shared port)

1 plug that is side surround if 7.1 (usually grey, can be pink if mic is shared port from rear or front panel)

 

Most motherboards should look like below but check your manual because some reuse the front jacks
for surround output

 

Channel Order Signal Color Code 7.1

2-channel output stereo left+right green

2-channel output two rear channels black

2-channel output two side channels grey

2-channel output center + subwoofer yellow

2-channel input stereo left+right blue

balanced input microphone pink

digital output SPDIF orange

data in/out MIDI gold
 

 

Channel Order Signal Color Code 5.1

2-channel output stereo left+right green

2-channel output two rear channels black

2-channel output two side channels grey

2-channel output center + subwoofer yellow

2-channel input stereo left+right blue

balanced input microphone pink

digital output SPDIF orange

 

 

 

data in/out

MIDI gold
 

Edited by wiesshund, 19 March 2023 - 08:25 AM.