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[vogliadicane]

Here is a set of lut files to make the tables darker without affecting highlights.

 

In flupper's TOTAN wip thread he explained some method with LUT files to change the lighting of a table in a very elegant way https://www.vpforums...=15#entry432876

 

In contrast to the day/night slider, which is almost doing nothing for tables with heavily prerendered textures like some authors work these days with, you can affect those, too.

 

So I made some experiments first with flupper's preview (https://www.vpforums...=15#entry432903) and then with other tables here in my cab and guys, I'm in love with that method.

 

So for myself I made 9 different lut files (starting from the default one 1to1) with my modifications from 10 to 90 %, which is I now use a lot!
 

I show what happens on Knorr's Cirqus Voltaire. I use the 60 % lut and beleive me, although you don't see SO much difference in the screenshot here, the effect live in the cab is enourmous. That's why I left the 60% out, to show, there is definitely a difference. The effect is pretty subtile, but the most important, it does not affect bright lights (like the day night slider does sometimes), so the effect is quite close to having a darker environment.

 

Check them out yourself (attached) and give me some feedback

 

Attached Files

•  LUT files darker 10to90Percent.zip   27.25KB   362 downloads

Edited by vogliadicane, 11 August 2019 - 03:35 PM.

[GeorgeH]

I have never been a fan of painting playfield textures black but it appears you have not done that.  

 

Your screen shot looks nice even though I usually go for more light than this.

 

George

[bassgeige]

Interesting, I was not aware that more LUT files are usable and I also was reading over it in fluppers text while reading it for the first time while my thoughts were already @TOTAN. How is the LUT per table triggered?

[vogliadicane]

^^ Import as many lut files as you want. In Backdrop settings, choose the one you want in "Color Grading Lookup Table..."

[flupper1]

and also in script, for instance:

table.ColorGradeImage = "ColorGradeLUT256x16_ConSatblue"

[toxie]

..exactly.. you can also change them via script if you like

[Fra1977]

hi everyone,

very interested in this lut files, how can I import them in vpx?
TIA

 

Francesco

[kiwi]

LUT images are imported from the Image Manager (press F3),
then they are selected from the "Color Grading LookupTable (256x16)" drop-down menu of the backdrop.

[ktmspark]

does anyone have the code i can import into a script, that lets me cycle thru the various imported LUT's whilst game is playing ( Like on totan)?

TIA 

[Thalamus]

What can I say - yes, it is in the totan script. I don't think anyone has made just a table with only that "function". But, it isn't very hard to do either. I've manged it so it can't be

[mk47]

does anyone have the code i can import into a script, that lets me cycle thru the various imported LUT's whilst game is playing ( Like on totan)?

TIA 

I described a generic way here in German:
https://www.flipperm...8/#post-1675026

It uses the GlobalPlugIn.vbs to make the switcher available for all tables.

[Cadorna]

 

does anyone have the code i can import into a script, that lets me cycle thru the various imported LUT's whilst game is playing ( Like on totan)?

TIA 

I described a generic way here in German:
https://www.flipperm...8/#post-1675026

It uses the GlobalPlugIn.vbs to make the switcher available for all tables.

 

 

What else should I change in the script to switch between LUT values using Magna keys (LCtrl and RCtrl) instead of , & . ?

Edited by Cadorna, 29 April 2023 - 04:43 PM.

[jpsalas]

Please do not use the GlobalPlugIn.vbs, simply delete this file as it will make hundreds of other tables to stop working, as almost every author make their own variations of the LUT routine.

 

I have made about 200 VPX tables and the LUT routine is in all of them. All them use the Left and Right CTRL keys, and only a few tables have other keys because the CTRL keys are used a lot in those tables. Just search for LUT in the script and you'll find the answer

[wiesshund]

I described a generic way here in German:

https://www.flipperm...8/#post-1675026

It uses the GlobalPlugIn.vbs to make the switcher available for all tables.

 

 

 

Which will literally break tons of tables.
I guarantee you it will make ALL of my tables crash your machine.

This is a bad idea.

[GordonJames]

Thanks for this. If anyone knows of a way to darken the playfield of tables without messing with LUT files i would appreciate it. What I need to do is see the ball better on tables. I find the process of accomplishing this easy with JPsalas tables and his LUT adjustments with the ctrl keys while the table is running. They darken the table and the ball remains bright. I can see the ball better and that's what i need. When i use typical LUT files in tables they darken the ball right along with everything else ruining what i'm trying to accomplish. What i need is a dim playfield, not too dark mind you, and a nice shiny bright ball to see. Now you might suggest importing another ball image. I've tried that too and some tables will automatically darken the ball right along with everything else. Doesn't matter what ball i put in, the whites on the ball will turn grey darkening the ball and preventing me from seeing it clearly on a dim play field.

 

Thanks.

Edited by GordonJames, 07 August 2023 - 03:28 PM.

[wiesshund]

just copy JP's LUT routine if its working for you

 

You can copy it to any table
(Make sure to export and import the LUT images also)

[jpsalas]

I have made several versions. Download the latest from any of my latest releases (VPX8 releases), it has 10 levels of dark, and another 10 levels with a warmer look.

[GordonJames]

just copy JP's LUT routine if its working for you

 

You can copy it to any table
(Make sure to export and import the LUT images also)

Hey thanks. That's exactly what i did and it looked horrible. The lut files mess with the brightness of the ball also on this table defeating the whole process. I have one alternative and that's to simply export the playfield and darken it in photoshop then re import it into the table. Unfortunately everyone makes their tables differently and this results in the light from the plastics also being reduced because they're literally painted onto the playfield. Final solution, delete table. Done. Thanks for the reply.

I have made several versions. Download the latest from any of my latest releases (VPX8 releases), it has 10 levels of dark, and another 10 levels with a warmer look.

Tried that, and thanks for the suggestion. It didn't work. It looked like hot garbage on this bord black knight table. Any lut file i use in his table darkens everything as well as the ball. I don't want to darken anything but the playfield, and in particular the lower bright playfield. I stuck it into photoshop, turned down the exposure, re imported it into the table. It looked like hot garbage because he literaly painted the plastics light directly onto the play field. So you darken that, you darken the plastics light. I deleted the table. Done wasting time on it. It might look batter and play better than your table but it I can't play on it because the ball is not bright enough even when i replace it to suit my tastes. Thanks for the reply sir. It's appreciated.

[jpsalas]

To darken only the playfield you can always make the material darker. Press F4 to open the material editor, find the material of the playfield (usually also called playfield ) and darken the color, which use to be gray

[GordonJames]

To darken only the playfield you can always make the material darker. Press F4 to open the material editor, find the material of the playfield (usually also called playfield ) and darken the color, which use to be gray

Yes, definitely a quicker way to darken the playfield than exporting it to PS and importing it in again. Thanks for the tip JP!

Edited by GordonJames, 07 August 2023 - 06:53 PM.