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[HiRez00]

Greetings all.

 

For several months, I've had a good 2 monitor setup. 1 monitor for playfield and 1 monitor for the backglass. I've always moved the DMD image to the bottom of the backglass.

 

Yesterday I added a brand new real PinDMD3 unit to my system, and although it works nice, I have a duplicate on the DMD still on the backglass. See attached photo.

 

I've gone through all the setting multiple times and set backglass and table to cabinet mode and a bunch of other setting changes, and it still won't go away. Sometimes the "second DMD" appears on the backglass and sometimes on the playfield and I can't figure out what I am doing wrong or missing.

 

Get the same results in the VPX software and PinballX.

 

I've searched for the answers all over the place with no luck.

 

I am sure it is something in a setting somewhere when I first setup the cab with 2 monitors that now needs to know there is a real DMD in the cab, but I can't find it.

 

PS: Is there a way to assign a color to the DMD so it isn't a continuous rainbow. I turned off rainbow cycling in PinDMD software and now when I start tables, all the DMDs are blue. F1 settings seem to do nothing.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Edited by HiRez00, 30 May 2018 - 03:07 PM.

[HiRez00]

Anyone?

[gtxjoe]

press F1 and make sure virtual dmd is unchecked

open dmddevice.ini in vpinmame folder and change  [virtualdmd] enabled = true      to     enabled = false

[Johngreve]

I believe gtxjoe has the correct answer to your first question as I went through this myself a few weeks ago.

As far as hitting F1 to change the DMD colors goes, that has beeen the answer for me. Hit F1 and check the 4 color box then if you click the top color, whatever color you choose from the pallet will be the color of the display when you first load the table and the second and bottom color that you select will kinda fill in the color pallet on the display as you play the table.....if that makes any sense to you?
I will also say that not all tables will display more than one color.....most Stern ROMs for me only display the top color selected. Bally/Williams tables seem to be the prettiest to look at......I’m far from an expert though. If there is a way to colorize the Stern tables I’d like to know about it as well.

If this isn’t working as I described then I’m thinking you maybe didn’t download the drivers and pinDMD.com files from pindmd.com website. Did you following their installation instructions exactly?

[Thalamus]

@johngreve : it sounds like you haven't tried to ...

make a folder named 'altcolor' inside your vpinmame folder - like c:\vp\vpinmame\altcolor

and dropped [Removed for Trademark Infringement].pal files into sub folders with the names of the tables - eg. c:\vp\pinmame\altcolor\<rom>\[Removed for Trademark Infringement].pal

 

They should be available where you had to go for stern tables before x-mas this year ;-)

 

Yes. I know you don't have a pin-two-dmd ...

Edited by Thalamus, 31 May 2018 - 09:00 PM.

[32assassin]

only problem here is that they are talking about a PinDMD3 not the trademark infringement  board.

 

only way you can get colored SAM roms to work on the PINDMD3 is to use Freezys dll with the pal files mentioned.

[Johngreve]

Thanks for chiming in guys!
Yeah Thalamus.....I haven't created that folder you mention and to be truthful was not aware this could be done. I just figured what you see is what you get.There was basically zero info on getting the pinDMD3 up and running beyond the install instructions.....no operational instructions that I’ve come across....just what I figured out on my own as I mentioned above. I do love the looks of the pinDMD3 really bright and vibrant colors. I have no knowledge of what a pin2dmd is though I get the idea from reading in the forums that it’s really popular and perhaps a better device?
Ok...I’m already using freezys dmddevice.dll ver1.6.1. Which is what’s required for PuP tables.....my PuP tables play fine.
I’m a bit lost as to what the .pal files are because it looks to me like your replies were censored,can you somehow tell me in another way what the”removed for trademark infringement.pal files are?

[32assassin]

happy reading

 

http://www.vpforums....zys#entry369199

 

 

if you already have freezys dll installed  you are half way their

 

you will have to upgrade your pinmame dll for SAM colored roms, to the latest one,  if you downloaded Tron 2.1,  you will probably have the correct one.

[Johngreve]

happy reading

 

http://www.vpforums....zys#entry369199

 

 

if you already have freezys dll installed  you are half way their

 

you will have to upgrade your pinmame dll for SAM colored roms, to the latest one,  if you downloaded Tron 2.1,  you will probably have the correct one.

 

happy reading is right....

 

Thanks for the link assassin

[HiRez00]

Ok. Here is a PinDMD3 question because I just can't figure it out.

 

Most VPX tables the DMD look great, exactly like the virtual DMD (if you have that turned on for comparison).

 

In VP9, there are a couple tables that the real DMD looks awful compared to the virtual one. The ones in question are Batman Forever and Baywatch. The image looks terrible, fuzzy and in many cases unreadable. This only seems to be in certain tables in VP9, not VPX.

 

I went through the scripts to look if the tables themselves were hard-coded to make the DMD look "bigger" or stretched or something that would account for this.

 

I threw away those particular tables cfg files hoping that was the issue, but it didn't fix anything.

 

Which leads me to my next question, how do you "unregister" a table in Pinmame, ie: the first time you start a table you have to select that you have rights to play the table and you never see it again. I set up all my tables BEFORE I got an actual PinDMD3 so I am thinking something got set that is over-riding any new settings I have for that tables DMD, like doubling the size or something that when I change in F1 have no effect now?

 

How do you remove everything about a certain table (other than nvram) that lets you start over with setting? Where is that info stored?

 

Any help?

[Rappelbox]

You can’t fix these 2 tables by „unregistering“ or similar. The reason is, these tables have a bigger dmd. It is 192x64 instead of the standard 128x32 resolution. Additionally, Maverick and Frankenstein will face the same issues

You could open vpinmame during play by pressing F1, uncheck „use external dmd“ and check „show dmd“ to make the internal vpinmame dmd visible on your backglass screen for example. If you set it during gameplay, the changes will only apply for these 4 games and the other remain the same and use your dmd3

Dom

[HiRez00]

Thanks Rappelbox.

 

Well that is a bummer.

 

Shame there is no way to fix that issue.

[Thalamus]

Confined by hardware limits - simple as that. 4 tables out of hundreds ?! Not a big issue for me at least.

[Rappelbox]

There are 2 possible solutions:
1. a good resize routine that saves as much information as possible and recalculates the aspect ratio
2. a bigger dmd , there is already a beta version for a solution that’s not allowed to be mentioned here...

[HiRez00]

There are 2 possible solutions:
1. a good resize routine that saves as much information as possible and recalculates the aspect ratio
2. a bigger dmd , there is already a beta version for a solution that’s not allowed to be mentioned here...

 

Is that solution mentioned in #2 a hardware solution or a software solution?

[Rappelbox]

Both, ah dammit... already said too much

[HiRez00]

Can you point me in the right direction to find out more about this without getting in trouble?

[Thalamus]

You should hop into a rocket and explore the universe

[HiRez00]

You should hop into a rocket and explore the universe

LOL!

 

Got it!

[DaveT]

For the original  problem about the double DMD, have you right-clicked on the backglass and tried hiding the DMD? 

Is your DDRAW variable set to 0 in the registry?  I've had similar problems before with the DMD showing on the playfield when it was set to !.   Not an exppert, just trying to help.

Did you right-click on the backglass and hide the DMD?