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#1 PinKitty

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 05:33 PM

I have looked over tutorials and searched the forums.  I see reference to some data east machines whose volumes were adjusted manually with an analog control knob inside the actual pinball cabinet.  These references say the volume cannot be adjusted with the ROM and then make reference to the analog control.  However, I am still not clear whether there is any way to adjust the volume via the script or some other way in visual pinball  for these games.  Am I simply just stuck with the volume that a game like Time Machine or Hook puts out?  Please help me understand. 



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Posted 18 July 2016 - 05:49 PM

The best way to adjust the volume for these tables is this procedure (note I am giving you the desktop procedure as that is easier to comprehend.  Cabinet procedure is a bit more involved - there are other threads which detail that part of it):

 

Left click on the pinmame window/DMD

Press the key to the left of the 1 key on the keyboard - for English keyboards it is the tilde (~) key to open a white box

Using the up and down arrow keys scroll through the channels until you find one that needs adjusting

Using the left and right arrow keys adjust the volume of the channel - left arrow key lowers the volume, right arrow key raises the volume

Repeat the preceding two steps for other channels that need adjusting

When done, press the key to the left of the 1 key to close the white box

Click anywhere on the table to return focus to the table

(You may have to press F3 to reset the table)

 

I, however, can't guarantee this will work for you.


Need to set or reset replay levels on a particular table? These guides will help you:

For Non-DMD tables: Guide to reset replay levels on non-DMD tables

For DMD tables: Guide to set replay levels on DMD tables

Need to change the number of balls per game on a particular table? These guides will help you:

For Non-DMD tables: Guide to set number of balls per game on non-DMD tables

For DMD tables: Guide to set number of balls per game on DMD tables

Need to adjust the volume on DMD based tables? This guide will help you:

Guide to adjust volume on DMD tables

An alphabetical listing of VPM emulated tables with their MPU and links to their specific replay level, balls per game and volume adjustment procedures can be downloaded as an Excel spreadsheet from this link:

Excel Spreadsheet of VPM emulated tables

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 05:50 PM

There is already the normal volume control of pinmame. But i guess you already have that at max?

Apart from that there is not much we can do, as by having an additional volume control added to that, it could potentially clip the sound of these machines, especially when many channels play at once (as the sound designer never expected it to leave his hardware-specified range).



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Posted 18 July 2016 - 05:50 PM

I did not include this in the tutorials as this is not a ROM adjustment but a pinmame adjustment FYI.


Need to set or reset replay levels on a particular table? These guides will help you:

For Non-DMD tables: Guide to reset replay levels on non-DMD tables

For DMD tables: Guide to set replay levels on DMD tables

Need to change the number of balls per game on a particular table? These guides will help you:

For Non-DMD tables: Guide to set number of balls per game on non-DMD tables

For DMD tables: Guide to set number of balls per game on DMD tables

Need to adjust the volume on DMD based tables? This guide will help you:

Guide to adjust volume on DMD tables

An alphabetical listing of VPM emulated tables with their MPU and links to their specific replay level, balls per game and volume adjustment procedures can be downloaded as an Excel spreadsheet from this link:

Excel Spreadsheet of VPM emulated tables

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 10:46 PM

I had a similiar post awhile back and I tought you right click the BG and it opens s settings box and like the first answer says, scroll around until you see a sound setting and use the arrow keys to adjust it, I think it is -32 is min and 0 is max. I found that this doesn't work for all non rom tables but most of mine. I haven't done this in a while due to a 4-6 month break I took but answer 1 seems very familiar, if you search the forums, your bound to stumble across my post and it got quite a few reply's.


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Posted 19 July 2016 - 03:51 AM

I find that having a volume control mounted on the right hand side of my cab (towards the back) controlling a Logitech 5.1 sound system mounted inside my cab is perfect!!  How does everyone else alter the volume of their systems when the desire ???   When the family has gone out, a certain AC/DC table gets cranked !!!



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Posted 19 July 2016 - 07:24 AM

Some of the EM tables are so quiet, you could crank it all you want but there is a setting inside the console to mess with volumes on em tables, I think thats what hes getting at. OHHH a logitech system? which one? I have one to sound my desktop and it needed more punch I thought so I built this!.... 500 watts RMS just to the sub. It is nice! The Logitech Z-906 system sub is the little one!

 

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Posted 08 August 2016 - 05:01 PM

Hello everyone,

 

I have sound issues with two tables, only. Dolly Parton and Paragon. On my office- pc boths sounds correctly. On my cab- pc I have the mechanical sounds only. All others VP tables sounds here correctly as well (rom & mech sounds). I have already aligned the PinMame sound adjustment as per ta2868's advise, everything is adjustable & adjusted, still no rom sound  :whtflag: . Where can I check additionally? Futher I saw both machine have had very close production days - is this a hint... but for what?

 

Thank you for each idea in advance, Christian.


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Posted 08 August 2016 - 05:40 PM

Hello everyone,

 

I have sound issues with two tables, only. Dolly Parton and Paragon. On my office- pc boths sounds correctly. On my cab- pc I have the mechanical sounds only. All others VP tables sounds here correctly as well (rom & mech sounds). I have already aligned the PinMame sound adjustment as per ta2868's advise, everything is adjustable & adjusted, still no rom sound  :whtflag: . Where can I check additionally? Futher I saw both machine have had very close production days - is this a hint... but for what?

 

Thank you for each idea in advance, Christian.

 

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Need to set or reset replay levels on a particular table? These guides will help you:

For Non-DMD tables: Guide to reset replay levels on non-DMD tables

For DMD tables: Guide to set replay levels on DMD tables

Need to change the number of balls per game on a particular table? These guides will help you:

For Non-DMD tables: Guide to set number of balls per game on non-DMD tables

For DMD tables: Guide to set number of balls per game on DMD tables

Need to adjust the volume on DMD based tables? This guide will help you:

Guide to adjust volume on DMD tables

An alphabetical listing of VPM emulated tables with their MPU and links to their specific replay level, balls per game and volume adjustment procedures can be downloaded as an Excel spreadsheet from this link:

Excel Spreadsheet of VPM emulated tables

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 05:25 PM

Unbelieveable! It works. So many thanks :love39: to you.

 

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 07:04 PM

How does everyone else alter the volume of their systems when the desire ??? 

 

If you use PinballX as front-end it's easy: PBX has volume control which sontrols the windows system volume.

 

In my cab easy to reach when I open the door I made 2 pushbuttons. These 2 buttons are connected to my KeyWiz and assigned the same key-code as what I told in the PinballX config manager what is volume up/down.

 

With this you can set the overall volume louder/softer and with modern tables who have volumecontrol in the menu (like the 2 red WPC buttons) you can set it per table.

 

It would be even more convenient to put these 2 overall-volume buttons on the outside of the cabinet but as real tables don't have that I didn't want to put them outside.....







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