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[jangus]

I have now reinstalled everything as I had big problems to get the VP to work. Last time I had to experiment a bit where to put all files but I guess it is safer to ask first.

I have a 3 moitor setup (playfield, backglass and DMD).

 

Where should these files go and are there any other files that I should have?

*.directb2s

*.vpt (Visual Pinball\Tables\)

*png (HyperPin\Media\VisualPinball\Backglasses\)

*uvp (HyperPin\Media\VisualPinball\Table Images\)

*f4v (HyperPin\Media\VisualPinball\Table Videos\)

ROMS ((Visual Pinball\VPinMame\roms\)

 

The last thing I did today where to test it all and it crasched. Probably because I forgot the rom-files 

 

[freneticamnesic]

I have now reinstalled everything as I had big problems to get the VP to work. Last time I had to experiment a bit where to put all files but I guess it is safer to ask first.

I have a 3 moitor setup (playfield, backglass and DMD).

 

Where should these files go and are there any other files that I should have?

*.directb2s

*.vpt (Visual Pinball\Tables\)

*png (HyperPin\Media\VisualPinball\Backglasses\)

*uvp (HyperPin\Media\VisualPinball\Table Images\)

*f4v (HyperPin\Media\VisualPinball\Table Videos\)

ROMS ((Visual Pinball\VPinMame\roms\)

 

The last thing I did today where to test it all and it crasched. Probably because I forgot the rom-files 

 

 

*.directb2s (go in Visual Pinball\Tables)

*.vpt (Visual Pinball\Tables\)

*png (HyperPin\Media\VisualPinball\Backglasses\)

*uvp (go in Visual Pinball\Tables)

*f4v (HyperPin\Media\VisualPinball\Table Videos\)

ROMS ((Visual Pinball\VPinMame\roms\)

[gamefixer]

I would also probably replace any UVP backglasses with direct.b2s glasses if they are out there.

[jangus]

Thank you. I have moved the files to the correct folders.

Twister (Sega 1996).png in C:\HyperPin\Media\Visual Pinball\Backglass Images

Twister (Sega 1996).f4v in C:\HyperPin\Media\Visual Pinball\Table Videos

Twister (Sega 1996).vpt in C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\Tables

Twister (Sega 1996).uvp in  C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\Tables

Twister (Sega 1996).directb2s in  C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\Tables

twst_405 (1).zip in C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\VPinMame\roms

 

When running HyperPin the playfield screen goes black. 

When running VPinball I get an error message when loading the game file:

Visual Pinball has stopped working

A problem caused the program to work correctly.

 

 

I might have forgotten to edit the line where I replace the controller line with "B2S.Server".

I can't find where to do that 

 

ScreenRes.txt

1920

1080

1280

1027

2

0

0

1680

1050

0

0

0

 

Visual Pinball.xml starts:

<menu>

<game name="Twister (Sega 1996)">

         <description>Twister (Sega 1996)</description>

         <manufacturer>Bally</manufacturer>

         <year>1996</year>

         <type>SS</type>

</game>

Edited by jangus, 10 January 2015 - 12:07 PM.

[BobAlbright]

Have you downloaded the vbs scripts? They need to be in your tables folder. I'd forget about Hyperpin and db2s/UVP for now and concentrate on getting the basic program working once that's working...the work on the other stuff.

[takut]

 

Twister (Sega 1996).vpt in C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\Tables

Twister (Sega 1996).directb2s in  C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\Tables

twst_405 (1).zip in C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\VPinMame\roms

 

 

I might have forgotten to edit the line where I replace the controller line with "B2S.Server".

I can't find where to do that 

 

 

The rom name should be twst_405.zip and not twst_405 (1).zip

 

 

If you load the table (for example: Twister VP912 BMPR FS v1.02.vpt) and open the script you will find the following line:

B2BOn = 2 '0=Off, 1=On, 2=AutoDetect
Const cController = 1 'Choose Controller: 1-VPM, 2-UVP, 3-B2S

with B2S support you need to change it to:

B2BOn = 2 '0=Off, 1=On, 2=AutoDetect
Const cController = 3 'Choose Controller: 1-VPM, 2-UVP, 3-B2S

Change the name of the db2S file to the same like the table file, like

 

Twister VP912 BMPR FS v1.02.vpt

Twister VP912 BMPR FS v1.02.vpt.directb2s

[jangus]

Have you downloaded the vbs scripts?

Hmm, vbs? I must have missed that one. I will take a look.

[gtxjoe]

Use this if you have not already

http://www.vpforums....rials&article=1

[jangus]

Hobbyist:

Wow, I messed up the ROM-file name, Had it downloaded twice and did not notice that I then moved the second one (2) into the rom folder. I will correct that.

You say "If you load the table...". The problem is that I can not load the table as the program stop working. Could be the rom name, I will test that.

Should I rename the "Twister (Sega 1996).directb2s" to "Twister (Sega 1996).vpt.directb2s" (adding "vpt" into the name)???

 

I see that you refer to a Twister file name with VP912 in the name. Do I use a version of Twister that is not campatible with the latest VP?

Use this if you have not already

http://www.vpforums....rials&article=1

Yes I have looked at it. It says it is not for 3 monitor so I really did not read it, I used another guide that this guide linked to on the dirst page.

Edited by jangus, 10 January 2015 - 05:06 PM.

[BobAlbright]

To answer your question about Twister...if your table is called Twister (SEGA 1996) your db2s should be named Twister (SEGA 1996).directdb2s . Exactly like the table name but with directdb2s on the end after the "." Don't add vpt. And again I say you should concentrate on getting the table to run before worrying about Hyperpin, db2s, etc. The vbs scripts I talked about are in the essential files download section...version 3.43. You definitely need them

[jangus]

I have now removed the (2) from the ROM file name. It is now named as it should: twst_405.zip.

I have also located the vbs files. I searched for a Twister (SEGA 1996).vbs, thats why I did not find any before. All the vbs files are placed in C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\Tables.

 

I still can't load the game into Visual Pinball. So I can not edit the script. 

 

 

Now I start over again with reading the http://www.vpforums....rials&article=1 and see what I can find out.

..... Done.

I can load the test files: tutorial.vpt and TopSpeed.vpt, TopSpeed is playable (tutorial has no ball)

I also have downloaded: Taxi_VP912_v2.1.2.vpt and Twister VP912 BMPR v1.02.vpt and they both load into Visual Pinball. When I try to run them Visual Pinball crashes while Visual Pinball is "Preparing Table" and "Starting Game Script".

 

I did uninstall the Visual Pinball before reinstalling it. Should I have removed something more (Register?)?

Edited by jangus, 11 January 2015 - 11:38 AM.

[BobAlbright]

   I'm at a loss to give you any more ideas. The Taxi and Twister tables you refer to are for VP912. What exe are you installing--9.9.1? If so, I'd use a current 9.x table to do your testing. I've read that some of the old tables won't work properly with the new VPexe. You SHOULD be using the latest version as there are many improvements with it. Other than that, just go back to the installation tutorial and double check everything. I know setting up VP can be tough--especially for a newbie, but it all makes sense down the road. One more question--are you using a desktop? If so, you need to download desktop tables. Conversely, if you're using a cabinet, you need to download FS tables. It's strange to me why the Top Speed will load and nothing else.

[takut]

Should I rename the "Twister (Sega 1996).directb2s" to "Twister (Sega 1996).vpt.directb2s" (adding "vpt" into the name)???

 

copy/past error. But Bob already answered this, thanks Bob.

 

It's strange that the test tables are running and the other tables don't work. If you deinstall VP you can also delete the Registry Files from HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Visual Pinball

 

It seems that the installation is not in good conditions. Read the "Visual Pinball Installation Guide" linked from gtxjoe. That will be helpful for the installation and it is not important how many monitors are connected. The monitor setup can do later. First it is necessary to run VP.

 

Here is also a helpful guide for the VP installation and also youtube videos. All this helps me to install VP.

 

Setup Guide for VP9  HP  UltraVP  DMD 1.0.5 tutorial 1.05.pdf

http://www.vpforums....s&showfile=4070

 

How-To Install Visual Pinball.mp4 (The video is no longer available on youtube because the user closed his account, I put this video on my dropbox)

https://www.dropbox....inball.mp4?dl=0

 

 

and another one "How-To Install HyperPin.mp4". But I prefere to install PinballX instead of Hyperpin.

https://www.dropbox....perPin.mp4?dl=0

 

 

PinballX installation guide:

http://www.gameex.in...e-3#entry132675

[jangus]

First I downloaded the versions that where downloadable in summer 2014. The games where playable but I could not get the backglass and DMD to show at the same time. On or the other where missing. I used the UVP for backglasses.

 

I where then recommended to update to the latest VP991 and since then I have not been able to start any games, except the tutorial and TopSpeed. I also changed to DirectB2S instead of UVP.

 

To concentrate to get the VP to work I have now reinstalled the VP without the HyperPin. The computer runs with Win7. It show the same problem as before when I updated to VP991.

Now I try to set up VP on my home computer that runs with Win8.

 

This is step by step what I have done (on both computers) while following the guide linked to by gtxjoe http://www.vpforums....rials&article=1:

• Downloaded and run the VPInstaller_1_0_3.exe. Default folder. Install VPinMAME checked.
• In VPinMAME run the Install. It installes version  2.1. Not sure if I should have done that. Quit
• I set the VPinball.exe to run in admin mode and in XP SP3 compatibility.
• Downloaded the latest VP9 standalone (991). Copied the VPinball991.exe, FreeImage.dll and SciLexer.dll to the VP folder.
• I set the VPinball991.exe ro run in admin mode and in XP SP3 compatibility.
• Downloaded vpinmame_cabinet_2.5.zip and copied the VPinMAME.dll into the folder VPinMame.
• Run the setup.exe in VPinMAME. The PinMAME version 3.00 is installed (guide says 3,00 is v 2.5). Quit.
• Created a new folder named Music in the folder Visual Pinball.
• Downloaded vpvbs3_43.zip. Copied all unzipped files to the Table folder.
• Downloaded bally_6803_gts3_nvram.zip and copied all unzipped files to the folder nvram.
• Downloaded vpfonts.zip and unzipped it to a temporary folder. Marked all files, right click and install.
• Downloaded twst_405.zip and copied it to the rom folder.
• Downloaded Twister VP912 BMPR v1.02.zip and copied the unzipped Twister VP912 BMPR v1.02.vpt to the table folder.

 

This is the result:

After this I have three VPinball exe files, one for ver8, one for ver902 and one for 991.
All three versions can load any of the example files (TopSpeed and tutorial).
All three versions can run TopSpeed.
8 and 991 can run tutorial but 902 gives a Script Error Line 176 (null) when I press enter.
8 quits without error message when I try to load Twister.
902 stop working while trying to load Twister.
991 loads Twister but stop working if I try to run the program.

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After reading BobAlbright recommendation to download a 9.x files I downloaded a Defender (Williams 1982) 1.0.0 in VPinMAME 9.x Recreations and its ROM file dfndr_l4.zip.
It load nicely but still crashes the program when I try to PLAY it.

Edited by jangus, 11 January 2015 - 02:01 PM.

[BobAlbright]

   When I got my cab, it was all set up--(bought a Virtuapin). You say you copied the VPinmame dll to the Pinmame folder. Did you do the complete install from the files that were with the cab 2.5 download? I'm not sure if it makes any difference or not. I just downloaded the cab 2.5 download and see it's like a whole installation. So maybe if you downloaded a different version and then just copied the VPinmame dll over--maybe that's why it doesn't work. I also took a  look at my setup in Vpinmame and it says it's using version 2.6.---not 2.5. It says Intallation verison 1.42 at the top

[jangus]

  You say you copied the VPinmame dll to the Pinmame folder. Did you do the complete install from the files that were with the cab 2.5 download?

Yes I just copied it as the guide says. Did not install the 2.5.

If the guide is wrong I believe that many more should have had problems with it. I will se if I do a test without copying the DLL.

[BobAlbright]

   It's gotta hurt having your cab sitting there and not being able to use it! I would follow all the instructions that were with the cab 2.5 download. I'm out of ideas. It's got to be something simple. Maybe someone who is a lot smarter ...and that's probably most people--sorry to say (:  ,than I am about the inner workings of VP can help you.

Edited by BobAlbright, 11 January 2015 - 03:18 PM.

[randr]

Setup is very basic never understood why people have issues. If you can have somebody remote in and sure it can be fixed in a matter of minutes

[takut]

Download the vpimame.ddl from this thread (first link) http://www.vpforums....ic=27063&page=1

 

and

- extract vPinMame.dll to the vPinMame folder (usually C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\VPinMame)
- go to vPinMame folder, right click vPinMame.dll, select Properties, in the General tab, if you see Unblock button, click on Unblock, click on OK
- from vPinMame folder, run setup.exe, set in the options "cabinet mode", click on Install

 

Download the VBS Scripts 3.43.0 and extract it to the Tables folder (usually C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\Tables)

http://www.vpforums....ads&showfile=17

[jangus]

Thank you takut. (and also a tousand thanks to all others that have helped me. Without you all I might have thrown out the computer through the window).

Now it works in desktop setup when I used that dll. (I have no unblock).

The VBS scripts I allready have.

 

When I changed to cabinet mode and then run the install nothing changed. I only have desktop versions of the vpt, maybe it need FS to show any difference?

 

Now I only have to get it to work on my VP computer and then change to full screen with 3 monitors. I mostly fear when I will try to change the third monitor to a real DMD

Edited by jangus, 11 January 2015 - 04:08 PM.