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Verne's World & Jolly Park WIP - redraw

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#1 freneticamnesic

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 12:25 AM

I am starting this WIP thread early because a) I've never done a redraw like this before and b) if I burn out, I at least want to be accountable for my work.

If I do this build without sharing progress, I may give up on it, so I need to keep it going here.

 

I scratched my previous redraw because it lacked detail. I hate doing redraws, hate hate hate BUT I have borrowed a Wacom tablet and I see promise in this. I'd like to share my redraw progress to also get some feedback from other photoshop/drawing tablet users. Am I doing it right? I don't know. Share some pointers, this is my first day with the tablet so I could be doing this all wrong.

 

Most of all I just want to do this table justice. We lack great resources, not many people are aware of it and of those that are, even fewer have played it. I consider this pinball preservation at it's most important. 

 

This table was made in 1996 by a Spanish pinball company named "Spinball" - it was the last table created by them. It's got great classic artwork, lots of cool toys on the table - some stuff that hasn't been done before or after - while still feeling a little old school. I don't know if it's a great game to play, all I know is I want to play it, and I want it done properly.

 

This is going to be an adventure... please be patient :) I do still need to finish a couple other builds first so this will take some time.

 

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 12:45 AM

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 02:18 AM

If you did that fine a detail work with the Wacom on the first day, I'm amazed!  I can't do anywhere near that after working with it for two weeks. 

I would love to here how you have it setup, I think I have mine configured all wrong and that's why I have to fight it rather than it being a true extension of my hand.



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Posted 19 August 2014 - 04:48 AM

Took a break then another hour of work

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 04:51 AM

nice.  you using brush mode or pen mode?



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Posted 19 August 2014 - 04:58 AM

Brush

I tried to use the pen initially and it was creating it's own shapes. I could see it create the shape I drew, then when I set it, it got jagged edges like it was adjusting the corners. Is there a way to fix that? For instance, if I did a tight curve the curve would turn into a sharp point and jut out like 10 pixels from the apex I created. I didn't have any corner modes enabled.. I dunno :(



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Posted 19 August 2014 - 06:28 AM

Nice freneticamnesic.

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 07:29 AM

I had to take a break from the drawing and do some of the cut and paste objects, I created the fancy light inserts that Spinball used on this table, and made the roll over lights and art surrounding the rollovers. It was a daunting task to begin with but I am seeing how it will come together now. I don't know how long it's going to take but in a few hours today I feel like I got a lot done. Tomorrow I'll do some more then I need to get back to my other builds :) This wacom tablet is incredible. Time to get my own.

 

If anyone else wants to build Mach 2 or Jolly Park I'll provide my light insert .PNG files for use

Though I feel like I may end up building those as well if I can get resources like I got for Verne's World...

Damnit I need to stop talking :)

 

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 09:57 AM

Freneticamneic try to centre better the central circle of each insert a bit down because doesn,t see totally centred.

 

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 02:18 PM

That seems like a reasonable thing to nit-pick



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 04:02 AM

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:12 AM

lookin sweet fren

 

i been swamped at work and havnt even logged into chat for a few days, sorry i couldnt get a start on it.

 

do some research on youtube anout the pen tool and its smoothing options using a wacom tablet that can help, but personally i like to use the brush as its quicker but open to more imperfections.


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 01:03 PM

Why, those are some nice looking tentacles you have there...

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 02:29 PM

lookin sweet fren

 

i been swamped at work and havnt even logged into chat for a few days, sorry i couldnt get a start on it.

 

do some research on youtube anout the pen tool and its smoothing options using a wacom tablet that can help, but personally i like to use the brush as its quicker but open to more imperfections.

 

Yea I tried a few things, the pen seemed like it should be the best here but I ended up using the brush tool, then switching to the pressure sensitive brush thickness tool to get some more of the detail work.

It is both forgiving and not forgiving - doing the long sweeping straight lines (tentacles and the waves coming out of the right side) you really see the flaws - ie. my inability to keep a steady hand, but on the tight curves and little details when I can zoom in it really shines.

I'm going to re-do the waves on the right because they just look so crappy right now...

You were always saying how quick you could do a redraw and I wasn't sure of that, I'd always used a mouse and thought "how much quicker can a drawing tablet really make you?" and I see how, now. After 2 days I have done all this, and using the pen tool and a mouse it would have taken a week. With practice I can probably do a whole playfield (with this kind of detail at least) in a few days. Pretty sweet device, really.



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 04:50 PM

Looks great! Which Wacom tablet are you using, or better said, any recommendation on what to get for such redraws?

Perhaps something like this would help with my lack of Photoshop skills... or is that not the case and you still need to be good at Photoshop to use such a device?

 

Basically any advice is welcome because I also have some plans for redraw, but the Photoshop (or similar graphics program) thing scares me away :)



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 05:04 PM

Wow.  I have had a bamboo wacom tablet for a little while and can't draw anywhere close to that well.



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:21 PM

You still need to have some knowledge of the software you're using. You can simply draw on a new layer and get pretty far but when it comes time to coloring you need knowledge of gradients etc or at least be able to learn easily. There's a bit of a news-print color effect on this table that I need to figure out how to replicate before I can begin coloring. So even as I am doing this I'm still learning...

 

The tablet I'm using is a Wacom Intuos 4, it seems pretty configurable but I just bought one of the monoprice 10x6.25" tablets today, hoping it works as well, and if it does then it ends up being only $50 which is considerably cheaper than the wacom.

I will let you know when I switch to my own, probably on Monday but hopefully I'll be done by then :)



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Posted 21 August 2014 - 05:42 AM

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Let there be color.....

 

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 05:56 AM

Awesome Freneticamnesic.

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 06:18 AM

Looking really good! 

That pixel pattern looks like it is going to be a bear though. Is that where you were hoping the news print feature would help?







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