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#1 tiloco

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:01 AM

Hi all, I am new here, and new to pinball repair, collecting. My hobbies are antique radio restoration and tube quitar amp building. But I am acquiring an interest in Pinball machines.

My problem is this: I have a Bally fireball Classic that will not start. Previous owner had all boards professionally rebuilt (I know this for a fact as I have the receipts). When he got them back he just plugged them in and attempted to start the machine. Well a couple of stuck solenoids, swtiches, etc. promptly burned out a couple of transistors on the solenoid driver board. I have repaired all that. Missing digits on display boards I have repaired.

 

So here is where I am stuck: diagnostics check out fine; 1 flash from the LED on the MPU, then 7 blinks, all is well. All solenoids fire, no stuck switches, etc.

 

Game fires up, then goes to attract mode.

Dropping a coin in slot 1 causes "ball in play" to display 3 on player 2, and 10 credits

Dropping a coin in slot 3 (no slot 2) causes "ball in play" to display 3 on player 4, and 10 credits.

Another coin in either slot advances that players credits to 20, another coin,30, and so on.

It seems players 1 and 3 are "lost" somewhere?

After dropping coins, pressing the credit button does nothing, game will not start. Even though credits are displayed.

I know the credit button is ok because I can use it to change things in bookkeeping.

 

The outhole switch is totally missing from this game but I don't know if this could be a cause? I am looking for one but no luck so far. Any ideas on a replacement switch?

 

I have gone into bookkeeping and tried putting 5 service credits on the machine to see if I can get it to at least play that  way but am not sure what to do after putting these credits on. They get lost once I get out of bookkeeping.

Could it be that the game has not been on long enough to fully charge the new "super cap" that replaces the old battery?

 

Any ideas as to where I should start looking? I am running out of them!

 

Thanks for any help!



#2 faralos

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:49 PM

have you tried the IPDB for the schematics or manual for this pin?

http://www.ipdb.org/...type=quick#4544

http://mirror2.ipdb....or_Handbook.pdf

http://mirror2.ipdb...._Schematics.pdf

try  reading the manual or the schematics for your problem

hope this helps ya'



if that didn't help try going over to http://www.pinballni...orums/index.php

over there are more real pinball owners than here where it is mostly cab owners/builders

and desktop players post your problem there wait a few days

and hopefully someone will be able to help ya'


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#3 STAT

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 07:27 PM

Have a Question about this and the Credits, Why are the Credits dont Show at the ROM File ?



#4 allknowing2012

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Posted 14 October 2015 - 12:59 PM

Not sure I understand the question -- but if the rom is a "free play" rom or is set to free play, often credits doesnt show.


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Posted 15 October 2015 - 10:18 AM

F6 - "Show Credits" - solved ;)