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#1 yvesstaub

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 06:48 AM

Hi all.

 

Recently, I put a new PC in my cab. It has a Intel Core i7 with 3.4Ghz, 8 Gigs of Ram and a Nvidia Geforce GTX 680 installed. I think, that is enough Power.

 

So I set up my PC with WinXP SP3 and all the latest drivers. Then I installed VP 914 and the latest VPinMAME for Cabs with UVP and Direct2BS and Future Pinball. Future Pinball works perfectly.

 

Then my Problem comes out. When i start VP 914 I can load and play any table without any problems or strutters for the first time. Then, when I close the Table and try to load another Table in VP 914 to play, the table loads, but VP get's stuck and crashes and I have to use the Task Manager to close it. Sometimes it displays a Message "can't create offset Textures" if I remember correctly. Or sometimes, the DMD shows some strange things, but after pressing F3 it works. All this happens randomly on any table.

 

Does anyone have an idea, how can I fix these Problems? Thanks for your help.

 

PS: On my old PC, which I used before for my Cab, I didn't had that error.

 

 



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Posted 17 February 2013 - 10:06 AM

you never close tables and load another from the same editor

 

You have to always close vp editor and load table to fresh vp

 

when you install hyperpin it will do it any way so there will be no problems


Edited by blur, 17 February 2013 - 10:07 AM.


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Posted 17 February 2013 - 11:21 AM

WIN XP-SP3 incase not the 64 Bit version does neither completely benefit from 8 GB Ram nor the extended extra RAM from the GTX-680 GPU. The normal limit is around 4 GB depending on the whole system setup.

To solve the "can't create offset Textures" there is a grafic card setup (means onboard GPU works also for extra GPU) to limit the GPU RAM usage to (without seeing VP atm) as far as I can remember 512 MB, 1 GB, 2 GB or unlimited approved RAM usage.


Edited by bassgeige, 17 February 2013 - 11:23 AM.


#4 yvesstaub

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:11 PM

you never close tables and load another from the same editor

 

You have to always close vp editor and load table to fresh vp

 

when you install hyperpin it will do it any way so there will be no problems

 

The problem stays, even when i close the editor before loading a new table or start the tables from hyperpin.

After rebooting the PC, I can play the first table without any problems and then trying to play the second tabe, the same problem comes out again.

It also doesn't have any affect to this problem, when I change the GPU RAM usage. First table is playable and second one isn't able to load.

I'm clueless, but thanks for your first help.



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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:59 PM

Try the newest toxie/koadic build (version 444) from here: http://db.tt/0MGdskoc

And see if it helps with the memory problems (toxie has optimmized the use of bitmaps so they use less memory)


If you want to check my latest uploads then click on the image below:

 

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:01 AM

yves, you said you are using 8gs of RAM but did not give the speed.

on your high performance PC try 8gs of 1600 or even 16gs/1600 SDDDR3

the "off screen error" is video ram memory.

i had the same in an old XPsp2 DDR2.

modded with high speed solved the problems.

you need alot of high speed RAM for gaming.

dont let anyone tell you different.



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:30 AM

The problem stays, even when i close the editor before loading a new table or start the tables from hyperpin.

After rebooting the PC, I can play the first table without any problems and then trying to play the second tabe, the same problem comes out again.

It also doesn't have any affect to this problem, when I change the GPU RAM usage. First table is playable and second one isn't able to load.

I'm clueless, but thanks for your first help.

After you close editor - check in task manager if you have any processes running (like vpinball, uvpserver, and so on).

Test outside of hyperpin for start. hyperpin is another story.


Edited by blur, 19 February 2013 - 10:30 AM.


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Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:38 AM

The problem stays, even when i close the editor before loading a new table or start the tables from hyperpin.

After rebooting the PC, I can play the first table without any problems and then trying to play the second tabe, the same problem comes out again.

It also doesn't have any affect to this problem, when I change the GPU RAM usage. First table is playable and second one isn't able to load.

I'm clueless, but thanks for your first help.

After you close editor - check if you have any processes running (like vpinball, uvpserver, and so on).

Test outside of hyperpin for start. hyperpin is another story.

umm b,

im 90% sure its a RAM issue.

i had "off screen"  errors on my old low end desktop with slow DDR2.

modifying with high speed DDR2 RAM solved it.

 

yves in post 1 is using 8gs but did say the speed.

it may not be high speed.

he has a reasonable high i7 platform.

i would mod with 8-16gs/1600.


Edited by chas, 19 February 2013 - 08:41 AM.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:13 PM

version 444 works way better for me!



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:15 PM

And with 8gig of memory I would run windows 7 64bit.. on an SSD drive... my cab runs super smooth and loads tables crazy fast





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