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[deadsoulz]

I just played my first game of this new release, The Ball Got stuck past the left ramp where at the ship where it increased your warp speed. I tried bumping it out, but couldn't. Also noticed a ball getting stuck on the probe launcher, but bumping there seemed to help. I will try and reproduce. Thanks for the great looking table!

[jpsalas]

Yes, I had the ball getting stuck inside a few walls. I though the was fixed in the VP9, but I see that the ball still can go trough some walls. But I'll build some extra walls to try to stop that. I guess I'll release a new version this evening with many bug fixes.

JP

[Rocko Bonaparte]

I had installed Visual Pinball specifically to try this table, though I am more than sure I'll be trying other ones with it later. The table seems to mimic well the ball behavior of an arcade machine I've tried. That is to say that it's just about as equally cruel. I can't quite get a handle on it. I guess because it's a wider body, they could move the flippers apart. And beyond that they don't seem to raise as high as on normal machines. This recreation seems to do all that right--unfortunately for me. I have the hardest time hitting a lot of the ramps in this game. The alpha quadrant is especially bad because I usually end up bounding off one of the posts around it and draining. The start [mission] hole next to it is just as bad.

I also have a lot of trouble trapping in this one, mostly due to the flippers not raising too high. And when I do trap, I can't get enough force to hit this ramps. I'll take any gameplay hints anybody can muster since I seem to be particularly bad at this machine.

Edited by Rocko Bonaparte, 25 October 2010 - 05:32 AM.

[Sheltemke]

Yesterday while testing the versions i get 10.5B score(and thats just an average score with sttng) with a non working cannon. So you only need patience and practice.

With this flipper power settings you can easily shoot any ramp in this game, so just play more dude.

That's my hint
Have a nice day

I had installed Visual Pinball specifically to try this table, though I am more than sure I'll be trying other ones with it later. The table seems to mimic well the ball behavior of an arcade machine I've tried. That is to say that it's just about as equally cruel. I can't quite get a handle on it. I guess because it's a wider body, they could move the flippers apart. And beyond that they don't seem to raise as high as on normal machines. This recreation seems to do all that right--unfortunately for me. I have the hardest time hitting a lot of the ramps in this game. The alpha quadrant is especially bad because I usually end up bounding off one of the posts around it and draining. The start machine hole next to it is just as bad.

I also have a lot of trouble trapping in this one, mostly due to the flippers not raising too high. And when I do trap, I can't get enough force to hit this ramps. I'll take any gameplay hints anybody can muster since I seem to be particularly bad at this machine.

Edited by Sheltemke, 25 October 2010 - 05:21 AM.

[PinballDork]

Thanks JP!

I'm getting my STNG cabinet next week to build a FS VP machine. I had a real Machine that burnt in a house fire.. so this will be a awesome replacement. My daughter loves this game and be happy its (semi) back.

My wife and I did the Norweigan Jade cruise last January... It was great. In Egypt (Alexandria) we used Memphis tours and it was personalized and cheaper that the ships tours. http://www.memphistours.com/ If you need any info let me know.

Can't wait to get out of Singapore and back in to the states to try this table.... THANK YOU!

[jpsalas]

Update 1.01 is up with many bug fixes Well, they were small bugs, but now it is the best I can do. Still there is the bug with the cannons not receiving the ball, but the table does a search and it serves the ball.

JP

[gStAv]

Thanks alot!!!

[lettuce]

Update 1.01 is up with many bug fixes Well, they were small bugs, but now it is the best I can do. Still there is the bug with the cannons not receiving the ball, but the table does a search and it serves the ball.

JP

Could the search for ball be rom releated??

[Bob5453]

Fantastic table! I can't believe you can make a table look this great and not use a single reel.

Thanks for a real beauty.

[jpsalas]

Yes, I decided when I started making the VP9 tables that I should not use a single reel, mostly to make it angle independent, so anyone can change the view to suit their preferences or screen resolution. I know it is easier to use reels, but the tables can look good too without reels

I'm not sure what causes the search for the ball. It may be rom version related, but it may be the timers of the underplayfield tunnel. But I have tried many combinations and they work the same: it works for the most part and suddenly the ball doesn't come out to the cannon, and this happens to the left one and to the right one. But still it works quite well, since the rom finds the ball, but sometimes it ejects the locked balls too.

JP

[Spacejack]

God this table is gorgeous...

I'm having a problem with the PinMAME sound though... for some reason it's just not engaging. I've switched out the ROM and it behaved the same on both... volume is at 25. The vp sound for the table's flippers and mechanics works fine, just the ROM sound is completely absent. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong here?

[Sabbat]

God this table is gorgeous...

I'm having a problem with the PinMAME sound though... for some reason it's just not engaging. I've switched out the ROM and it behaved the same on both... volume is at 25. The vp sound for the table's flippers and mechanics works fine, just the ROM sound is completely absent. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong here?

Try pushing F1 and seeing if the sound and samples is checked...then F3 to reset

[Spacejack]

God this table is gorgeous...

I'm having a problem with the PinMAME sound though... for some reason it's just not engaging. I've switched out the ROM and it behaved the same on both... volume is at 25. The vp sound for the table's flippers and mechanics works fine, just the ROM sound is completely absent. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong here?

Try pushing F1 and seeing if the sound and samples is checked...then F3 to reset

Sound and sample are both checked. Resets, restarts... no sound. I know this has got to be some tiny little switch that I'm somehow missing. Thanks for the suggestion, I had not checked that before you said it.

Edited by Spacejack, 13 November 2010 - 10:29 PM.

[Hallis]

God this table is gorgeous...

I'm having a problem with the PinMAME sound though... for some reason it's just not engaging. I've switched out the ROM and it behaved the same on both... volume is at 25. The vp sound for the table's flippers and mechanics works fine, just the ROM sound is completely absent. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong here?

Try pushing F1 and seeing if the sound and samples is checked...then F3 to reset

Sound and sample are both checked. Resets, restarts... no sound. I know this has got to be some tiny little switch that I'm somehow missing. Thanks for the suggestion, I had not checked that before you said it.

I'm having a somewhat similar issue. I CAN hear the background music but it is very very very faint. despite the volume sliders being all the way up.

[Sabbat]

God this table is gorgeous...

I'm having a problem with the PinMAME sound though... for some reason it's just not engaging. I've switched out the ROM and it behaved the same on both... volume is at 25. The vp sound for the table's flippers and mechanics works fine, just the ROM sound is completely absent. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong here?

Try pushing F1 and seeing if the sound and samples is checked...then F3 to reset

Sound and sample are both checked. Resets, restarts... no sound. I know this has got to be some tiny little switch that I'm somehow missing. Thanks for the suggestion, I had not checked that before you said it.

I'm having a somewhat similar issue. I CAN hear the background music but it is very very very faint. despite the volume sliders being all the way up.

When you say volume sliders do you mean vp's built in volume or the ROMS volume? vp9's volume you can turn up and down with the - and + keys.

The ROM volume you can turn up by pushing End and then 9 or 8 and then pushing End again to close the coin door

[RipleYYY]

i came here due to the probe bug...

and for those who have sounds prob : just push "end" key to open the door, now set the sound with "9" or "0" (or "8")



edit : and oups cause SM just said it above

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Edited by RipleYYY, 17 November 2010 - 07:17 PM.

[DedRok_V]

I'm not sure what causes the search for the ball. It may be rom version related, but it may be the timers of the underplayfield tunnel. But I have tried many combinations and they work the same: it works for the most part and suddenly the ball doesn't come out to the cannon, and this happens to the left one and to the right one. But still it works quite well, since the rom finds the ball, but sometimes it ejects the locked balls too.

JP

The real machine gets this problem alot also, mainly caused by bad switches/optos and opto alignment, and like you said with the under playfield tunnel. Possibly rom related, but not from what I remember.

Never did get that problem to work correctly.

Did a quick search

Problem: On STNG (Star Trek Next Generation), when I turn the game on, it constantly tries to load balls in the under ball runways.
It starts with all 6 balls in the ball through. Now it starts the initialization and shoots one ball via the catapult into the left side tunnels below the playfield. It ends in the upper tunnel, then it kicks out a second ball via the catapult which is again going into the upper tunnel. Now the strange thing happens. It ejects one of the balls from the upper tunnel and lets it drain. As soon as the ball drains, a new ball gets kicked out via the catapult (and going into the upper tunnel again). This is an endless loop as the ball drain and re-catapulting steps are repeated. Why?

Answer: the game is trying to load the two guns endlessly (the machine loads a ball under each gun at initialization). It should put one ball in the upper tunnel and one ball under the left gun, and one under the right gun. Then three balls should stay in the trough. Be aware if fuse 103 on the Power Driver Board is blown (3A slow blow), the game will not start and will constantly throw out balls. Fuse 103 powers the solenoid which controls the upper diverter on the under-the-playfield diverter. Without a working diverter, the game can't load the balls where it wants, and the game will attempt to load and reload balls continually.

As a test, try this: go into the feature adjustments and set both guns to "Broken=Yes". This will disable the guns. If the machine then starts up OK, you have a problem with a gun assembly optos, or the under-playfield diverters. Enable each gun individually to see which one causes the failure. Also a dirty/broken opto in the upper tunnel can cause this problem.

Edited by DedRok_V, 18 November 2010 - 01:30 PM.

[ClickerSnapper]

helps?




just for future reference for someone else as well.

Great table! I need to play it MORE!

Regards,
Clicker

Edited by ClickerSnapper, 18 November 2010 - 02:11 PM.

[Spacejack]

"and for those who have sounds prob : just push "end" key to open the door, now set the sound with "9" or "0" (or "8")"


Would that it were so. But the sounds prob I'm having is not addressed by this.

[njamont]

is it me or does the ball drain very fast on the left side ....