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[ICPjuggla]

@IPCjuggla: Are the pics of the hotel / textures of the hotel good enough? I could redraw them if you want. 
 
I'm not that good / experienced with drawing but this table style is simply enough for me

 
The hotel has good (HD) images for the front view, and now we have a good image for the top view, but not so much for the sides.  The sides are barely visible but it would be nice to have a complete model for future use in emulations where you can move the camera around.

The new images I found has pretty good photos of the right side, top and front. Did you not see the new photos I found? We don't need the left side at all it's againts the wall and open in the real world table for maintenance purposes.

[dark]

I looked through the images, I didn't see anything new showing the right side?

[Talantyyr]

There's a great top down view on the right side. I can work with that, just give me some time

[dark]

@Fren: I think 4 step is best too, I probably should of provided 4 steps for the Maverick boat.  The one issue with doing this with large ramps is they can be illuminated by multiple flashers in different sequences, so a texture needs to be rendered out for each combination, this is the only reason I'd maybe want to simplify it.  Really we could go crazy by even having it be illuminated and or reflect table insert lights but the more variables we add the more frames we need and you can see how it can start to get hairy.

[vampirolatino2]

I looked through the images, I didn't see anything new showing the right side?

 

Yes there is, is better because it have less coloration because of the flasher. But don't worry Talan will help me on the model picture while I keep drawing the PF. Will try the ramps stickers/decals next week too. Maybe Talan can help me there too, if he have the time. The backpanel is a problem through.

As soon is done I will send them directly to you dark. So you can play with them

@Fren: I think 4 step is best too, I probably should of provided 4 steps for the Maverick boat.  The one issue with doing this with large ramps is they can be illuminated by multiple flashers in different sequences, so a texture needs to be rendered out for each combination, this is the only reason I'd maybe want to simplify it.  Really we could go crazy by even having it be illuminated and or reflect table insert lights but the more variables we add the more frames we need and you can see how it can start to get hairy.

 

dark you can go crazy in this table, IMO it dosn't have to many toys and stuff, it's "relative simple" compared to others tables. The model could use some of your lighting touches indeed! It have 2 or 3 red flashers around them. There is a video of the gameplay in the box, in hd.

[dark]

Yea I think you're right, this table is a good candidate to go crazy on texture swapping.  One thing that has crossed my mind is 3D wire ramps....we typically use ones made and imported from FP, and while they are great they are super high face count so they are always rendered static.   What I was thinking was to cut up the wire ramps into pieces, areas where the wires are straight and not curved I could replace with lower poly versions that should look the same and then texture bake wire reflections.

[vampirolatino2]

You have one vote. Do it

[ICPjuggla]

There really is no flashers or lights near the metal rail ramps and I've already made them.

I'm all for this cool stuff but as it stands there are only 2 VP10 tables I can play so far on my cab without stutter. Witch to be honest is quite depressing.. So if this stuff can be implemented and optimized I'm all for it but I'd really like to be able to play the table I'm helping to create.

[dark]

We got 1 flasher in the middle of the main plastic ramp, that's what I was referring to for potential texture swapping....try to make it have the light hit the ramp and refract light.

I really don't think this will be hard on performance even if we go all out on it as discussed above.  The wire ramps on this table are wavy and have a lot of bends so they aren't good candidates for the idea I had for chopping it up for wire reflections...but it's not out of the question.

 

If you look at the pics we got you can see how Hotel lex and the ramp can have so many different looks based on what lights are on, I'd like to try to mimic that as best I can without making it too complicated.

Like this:

 

 

I also think if we plan ahead one of the script gurus can organize it so these effects could be disabled.  

[freneticamnesic]

Well we can have a "sad pc edition" I guess if it's unplayable, just change a line in the script and you don't have any of the fun image swapping ...............

yea like dark said, it's an easy addition, don't need to worry about it

[Shadowsclassic]

If you guys build tables that my system can't run that will just be the incentive for me to build a better system!

Go wild and build away!

[vampirolatino2]

lol I love Fren sarcastic posts ... Sad PC edition ™

 

No, but seriously, we are lucky, this table doesn't have too much going on. We could be or better yet, should runs wild in making one of the best looking tables. Remember guys, this table is one in a million. It needed to be treated this way

 

Dark go crazy my friend, ICPjuggla and Fren flow with the changes. Welcome to VPX baby! lol

[freneticamnesic]

dark what format do you want for the ramps? is an obj fine?

[dark]

objs are fine.

[vampirolatino2]

Just a quick update to the community: Table is on track and looking/shappe to be one of the finest tables around here. Team PIMPS are working hard and doing an awesome work. Coming Soon.

Long live the KingPin!

Hold your machine guns!!

[freneticamnesic]

team pimps????????? 

[vampirolatino2]

Shut up, you ARE a PIMP

I was just having fun lol, Team Fire, Tem Pimp, you know ... lol we change names each time, just for giggles.

[dark]

Plastic ramps done:

[zany]

Looks really nice, but should be way more transparent in my opinion!

[dark]