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[flupper1]

No update before Christmas guys. I am out of town for some days and also still struggling with the materials. All the modelling is done, but materials (next to lighting) are key to realism, so can/will take some time.

[crashb4]

Thanks for the update Flupper. As always, thanks for your work. Merry Christmas from my family to yours.

[death69inc]

still picking up my jaw daily as i look for updates.......  LOVE the work your putting in.

[krel01]

No problem guys! We are all on the same side :-)

[ice73]

wauw ! i can't find the right words right now because my mouth is still wide open from amazement . 

looking forward to this Echt supergaaf !

[Phazer51]

 

The end result in VPX (also with prerendered insert light reflection effect):

 

And a short video showing the fading light effects in VPX as well (eyes and insert light reflection):

https://youtu.be/DDmg9Ya6004

 

WOW!  I am in awe.

[flupper1]

It has been some time, so here is an update:

I have been working a lot of time on the materials, hard to show that piece by piece. I did adjust some models, for instance I added a lot of playfield holes, since that adds realism. I think I am getting at the limit of what I can get out of the materials, this is the current result:

 

Rendered resolution is 5140x5000 pixels, denoised with the nvidia denoiser (see earlier post of where I found that); rendertime is one hour and after denoising I resized to 50% since the nvidia denoiser blurs a little bit:

 

Final renders for VPX will have to be at 8k resolution and then resized to 4k.

 

To give some perspective how modelling and rendering works in Blender, I will explain something I always wondered about before I got into Blender modelling: how does the guy get that many polygons into his model?

 

If you look at the wireframe view of the scene in the screenshot above, it looks like this; at the top it says around 6 million triangles for the whole scene:

 

But I did not model 6M triangles fortunately. In reality it is less than 200k triangles:

All the detailed triangled are mainly generated by a so called subsurf modifier on many models, which adds extra triangles for making smoother models. Lighting looks off/not realistic if you do not use this.

 

And even that is an inflated number. If you look at the ramp for instance, I made that rougly in this way:

- I exported the VPX ramp of Jpsalas to blender

- I removed all the sides, so you only have left the ramp bottom, and made that a smooth surface, all connected

- everything after that are 3d operations in Blender like extrude (which creates new side surfaces up from the ramp bottom)

- after that modifiers are added which make the ramp have a smooth transition from bottom to sides (bevel modifier),  thickness (solidify modifier), sharp edges (bevel modifier) and finally ramp up the triangle count for nice rendering (subsurf modifier)

So I modelled only a couple of hundreds of faces (in fact the base for that done by JP), with some 3d work upped that to 3600 triangles and with some modifiers get it up to 2M triangles.

 

I expect the number of triangles to be around 100-200k to be when I get all of this working in VPX. 

 

Next steps now for me are:

- reorganise the blender file, combining objects which will be one object in VPX; there are a lot of transparent layers in Totan, so this will be challenging

- perspectively correct the blender camera view to the same view as in VPX

- render and export to VPX (objects and textures)

And all of this for different lighting stages (dimming GI), flashers on/off, maybe even some playfield inserts on/off reflections.

 

Somebody will surely ask: what's the ETA? Answer: I do not know, my other tables all took about a year...

[Mark70]

Thanks for showing the WIP update. It is VERY impressive !
 

[Nemo]

I'm running out of jaws to pickup....... just stunned on how much realism is build into this table. And i always LOVE the explanations you give us with each new graphics wizardly you put into your tables. We as end-users wouldn't have known the expertise and time that goes into building these masterpieces !

 

I'm truly in awe ! 

[flupper1]

As an extra, the render without GI on:

[Phazer51]

As an extra, the render without GI on:

It looks photo realistic. Amazing.

[bjschneider93]

That’s is very impressive

[lukpcn]

WOW!

[Ben Logan]

I’m with Nemo. Love learning about your process, Flupper. Had no idea a 3D ramp could be built out from a 2d pathway using Blender tools. Your explanation made perfect sense to a non-Blender user like me. Thanks for the beautiful screenshots!

[BrandonLaw]

I am not a small guy and I just had the wind knocked out of me looking at that render.  I want to cuss....in awe.  So much good-cussin'.  MAN I WANT TO CUSS AND TELL YOU HOW CUSSIN' GOOD THIS LOOKS.  JUST CUSS DANG WOW CUSS.

[Schlabber34]

Speechless!

[sasa12345]

So nobody can do this...This will even be better than Diner for at least 30% as is not possible  

Edited by sasa12345, 10 February 2019 - 08:07 PM.

[mwong168]

Stunning!

[RpT]

Amazing work and thanks for documenting the process!

[STAT]

This is where the Emulation meets the unbelievable Realism ! I am shocked - Congratulation Flupper

It is also for bord's PB ( WIP ) and Knorr's CV ( WIP ) and also wrd's FH - amazing ^ 1000 !

Edited by STAT, 11 February 2019 - 12:39 PM.