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#1541 ced

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 02:38 AM

QUOTE (ced @ Jun 16 2011, 03:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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QUOTE (fel @ Jun 15 2011, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, in my opinion you could consider this guideline:

> 30% of the highest score published is a good score
> 60% is a very good score
> 90% is an excellent score:

So, considering jpsalas attack from Mars the highest score published is 185,565,571,330. Good score would be at least 55.6 billion.. Anyway this is only my personal opinion..

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So what if one person is light years better at a game compared to everyone else? Take Jackbot, for instance - on JP's table you have one person who posted a score of 45 billion and everyone else on the list is around 5-15 billion. Does that mean that they all suck (or just barely qualify as "good") simply because one person had a freakishly high score? Personally, if I was doing your percentage scale I'd be inclined to toss out first place in that scenario and just compare my score against the rest of the leaderboard. But likewise, that's my personal opinion...


You are right, it depends of the high-score


It is on that 17 billion quoted(esteemed) of 185 billion his(her,its) adorned weak(weakness).
But it is the good beginning.
Many of training are needed before reaching(affecting) very high score

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 02:50 AM

Another time or I made 58 billion on AFM I believed to have a very good score but he(it) was pretty poor to see even a little bit ridiculous next to 200 billion of slam23...
Thus everything is relative...

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 10:54 AM

I said that it was only my personal opinion. Anyway, for me the comparison should be always with other players, otherwise even beating the default grand champion score would be a great score. but compare the default grand champion score of Medieval madness for example that is only 52 million with the 850 million posted as highest here.
Do you think you would have had a great score making 55 million? There is nothing bad to admit that one may be a bad player compared to the others in a table. F or example i suck at creature from the black lagoon occupying the last position with 454 million. ( which is 2 times greater than default grand champion score).

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 11:35 AM

QUOTE (fel @ Jun 16 2011, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I said that it was only my personal opinion. Anyway, for me the comparison should be always with other players, otherwise even beating the default grand champion score would be a great score. but compare the default grand champion score of Medieval madness for example that is only 52 million with the 850 million posted as highest here.
Do you think you would have had a great score making 55 million? There is nothing bad to admit that one may be a bad player compared to the others in a table. F or example i suck at creature from the black lagoon occupying the last position with 454 million. ( which is 2 times greater than default grand champion score).


You are right, each the opinion!
55 millions is a high-score, but it will not hold for a long time and every high-score are made to be beaten...
A question fel, To which corresponds for you 100 %, 150 % and 200 %? (Because it is possible also to beat the best score of another player) wink.gif

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 12:26 PM

QUOTE (ced @ Jun 16 2011, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (fel @ Jun 16 2011, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I said that it was only my personal opinion. Anyway, for me the comparison should be always with other players, otherwise even beating the default grand champion score would be a great score. but compare the default grand champion score of Medieval madness for example that is only 52 million with the 850 million posted as highest here.
Do you think you would have had a great score making 55 million? There is nothing bad to admit that one may be a bad player compared to the others in a table. F or example i suck at creature from the black lagoon occupying the last position with 454 million. ( which is 2 times greater than default grand champion score).


You are right, each the opinion!
55 millions is a high-score, but it will not hold for a long time and every high-score are made to be beaten...
A question fel, To which corresponds for you 100 %, 150 % and 200 %? (Because it is possible also to beat the best score of another player) wink.gif


And what does 300, 500 1000% mean? smile.gif Above 100% means you are the new grand champion and forum record breaker until proved otherwise. Anyway everything is relative as you said before. Don't take it too seriously... otherwise nobody post score anymore smile.gif.

Only for curiosity, compare my 412 million and actual record score on TAF with this score made on a real TAF pinball machine...



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Posted 16 June 2011 - 01:04 PM

QUOTE (fel @ Jun 16 2011, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ced @ Jun 16 2011, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (fel @ Jun 16 2011, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I said that it was only my personal opinion. Anyway, for me the comparison should be always with other players, otherwise even beating the default grand champion score would be a great score. but compare the default grand champion score of Medieval madness for example that is only 52 million with the 850 million posted as highest here.
Do you think you would have had a great score making 55 million? There is nothing bad to admit that one may be a bad player compared to the others in a table. F or example i suck at creature from the black lagoon occupying the last position with 454 million. ( which is 2 times greater than default grand champion score).


You are right, each the opinion!
55 millions is a high-score, but it will not hold for a long time and every high-score are made to be beaten...
A question fel, To which corresponds for you 100 %, 150 % and 200 %? (Because it is possible also to beat the best score of another player) wink.gif


And what does 300, 500 1000% mean? smile.gif Above 100% means you are the new grand champion and forum record breaker until proved otherwise. Anyway everything is relative as you said before. Don't take it too seriously... otherwise nobody post score anymore smile.gif.

Only for curiosity, compare my 412 million and actual record score on TAF with this score made on a real TAF pinball machine...



May i cry? drool.gif ahahaha


Aaahh i have boring english language problems... "actual" i meant "current" , and the 6 billion score has not been made by me obviously... but by an argentinian player

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 01:59 PM

my first match on "Attack From Mars"

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 02:37 PM

AFM by jpsalas , VP9.1x ,v2.3 FS
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Score: 93.304.595.200
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Jack*Bot by jpsalas , VP9.1x , v1.02 FS
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X-Files by jpsalas , VP9.1x , v1.0.1 FS
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#1549 Decidetto

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 03:48 PM

En guarde, niliang! smile.gif

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 03:49 PM

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Finally starting to get somewhere on this one

medievel madness
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vp91x v 2.31
146,336,940 >EDY<




Keep trying dedrock is not so difficult to score high in this game when you understand how to do it

The difficulty is to not lose the ball

Slowly climbing

Poor old computer was stuttering flat out in battle for the kingdom
Don,t know what stuttered worse, me or the computer. laugh.gif

medievel madness
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237,965,600 >EDY<


Finally got in contact with my mate that has the real one, cant wait to play it again.

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#1551 Decidetto

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 03:57 PM

Haha, it's storming, and I'm playing Whirlwind!

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 04:37 PM

Theatre of magic by jpsalas , VP9.1x , v2.1.1 FS
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Posted 16 June 2011 - 05:37 PM

Thanks Ced, for the compliment..... smile.gif How about averaging the top (10) scores and then compare your score? This way the top score still figures in but the majority of the scores will determine how high the average score will be.
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Posted 16 June 2011 - 06:07 PM

Yep ,you are right.

I find that this way to compare a high-score is the most logical.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 06:15 PM

Maybe what ANDROID can do is add an average to each column of his High Score pdfs. Since he uses Excel (as long as he uses numbers by putting an = sign in the cell before entering the score) to enter the scores he can use the AVG function in a cell at the end of the column to calculate the average score before he makes his pdfs from the Excel spreadsheets.
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Posted 16 June 2011 - 06:54 PM

QUOTE (ta2686 @ Jun 16 2011, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe what ANDROID can do is add an average to each column of his High Score pdfs. Since he uses Excel (as long as he uses numbers by putting an = sign in the cell before entering the score) to enter the scores he can use the AVG function in a cell at the end of the column to calculate the average score before he makes his pdfs from the Excel spreadsheets.



Yes this is for sure the most logical solution using the average or the median score. But the only problem is that there are too few scores published in many tables, so the average score is still too high. For example in flintstones table it is above 2 billion. Too much high to be considered only a "good" score.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 08:42 PM

@ Fel: that will get better in time (I hope!), but maybe averages only should be computed when there are enough scores to compute them, 7-10 sounds about right don't you think? Although I personally think that posting your score is all about posting something that you are proud of and for which a lot of hard work was needed (so not necessarily the first score you get on a new machine), maybe more people should post and not be turned away by monster scores. I have seen a lot of new names in the last couple of weeks, so that means competition is growing (as is the community as a whole I think)!
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PS This topic also warrant a further discussion about how to treat scores from 4:3 and FS on the same table, or different versions of the same table etc. As long as we have a lot of different versions out there, competition on one table will be a bit diluted

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 08:51 PM

QUOTE (slam23 @ Jun 16 2011, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
PS This topic also warrant a further discussion about how to treat scores from 4:3 and FS on the same table, or different versions of the same table etc. As long as we have a lot of different versions out there, competition on one table will be a bit diluted


I know that with his last update, ANDROID seperated the FS table scores from the 4:3 scores for his high score pdf files, if that is what you were referring to.

I would think that the score between different versions of a table SHOULD be seperate as well, especially if there are different versions from different authors. Now different versions of a table from the same author COULD be combined as gameplay from an author should not differ from different versions of a table.

Edited by ta2686, 16 June 2011 - 08:54 PM.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 11:37 PM

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En guarde, niliang! smile.gif

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 06:18 AM

Hahaha. tongue.gif
Whenever I come up with a great score, you beat it by such a small amount!
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