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#1501 jimbod8

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 11:41 PM

QUOTE (R-DuB @ Jun 11 2011, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WOW ohmy.gif

After seeing these scores makes me come to realize that I really SUCK! at pinball.
LOL!


Doesn't matter - if there's a table that you like and you have a score that you're happy with, then send it in! Who cares if it's first place or tenth place? The high score table is designed to show off the top 25 players on each game, and most games don't have more than one or two scores posted anyway.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 11:51 PM

WHIRWIND VP9 high score

MDM NAME : DAV




only one great ball, all extraball and other a total disaster!

This is for sure the hardest and fast table i have played!

Edited by niliang, 11 June 2011 - 11:55 PM.


#1503 slam23

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 06:11 AM

QUOTE (jimbod8 @ Jun 12 2011, 01:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (R-DuB @ Jun 11 2011, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WOW ohmy.gif

After seeing these scores makes me come to realize that I really SUCK! at pinball.
LOL!


Doesn't matter - if there's a table that you like and you have a score that you're happy with, then send it in! Who cares if it's first place or tenth place? The high score table is designed to show off the top 25 players on each game, and most games don't have more than one or two scores posted anyway.


Yes! That's exactly how I think about it too, and why I really like Android's effort to make a top 25 scoring list. Just look at somebody like CrazyDarnFoolDuck who also posts his personal best scores, even when some of them are not exactly earth-shattering. It's all about the friendly competition and whoever joins just makes this party happenin'! smile.gif
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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:16 PM

QUOTE (niliang @ Jun 12 2011, 01:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WHIRWIND VP9 high score

MDM NAME : DAV




only one great ball, all extraball and other a total disaster!

This is for sure the hardest and fast table i have played!

Hmm, seems we've got competition!
Great! smile.gif
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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:22 PM

QUOTE (Decidetto @ Jun 12 2011, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (niliang @ Jun 12 2011, 01:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WHIRWIND VP9 high score

MDM NAME : DAV




only one great ball, all extraball and other a total disaster!

This is for sure the hardest and fast table i have played!

Hmm, seems we've got competition!
Great! smile.gif


Hey Niliang, i have seen on pinballhighscores.org an italian player called davide delprato whose initials are DAV . This player competes in real pinball tournaments. Are you and that player the same person?

#1506 niliang

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 04:55 PM

QUOTE (fel @ Jun 12 2011, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Decidetto @ Jun 12 2011, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (niliang @ Jun 12 2011, 01:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WHIRWIND VP9 high score

MDM NAME : DAV




only one great ball, all extraball and other a total disaster!

This is for sure the hardest and fast table i have played!

Hmm, seems we've got competition!
Great! smile.gif


Hey Niliang, i have seen on pinballhighscores.org an italian player called davide delprato whose initials are DAV . This player competes in real pinball tournaments. Are you and that player the same person?

no sorry, i'm call Davide but he is not me.


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Posted 12 June 2011 - 05:20 PM

QUOTE (slam23 @ Jun 12 2011, 02:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes! That's exactly how I think about it too, and why I really like Android's effort to make a top 25 scoring list. Just look at somebody like CrazyDarnFoolDuck who also posts his personal best scores, even when some of them are not exactly earth-shattering. It's all about the friendly competition and whoever joins just makes this party happenin'! smile.gif
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Exactly - and not always competing with the top guy either. Maybe you think, well I can't challenge first place, but maybe I can crack the top five, or top ten. Or "PDF was below me, and now he's posted a new score that's only a thousand points better than mine. This is not acceptable!"

Anyway, here's three more scores from me that I'm happy with, even though none of them come close to dethroning the current kings (click thumbnail to view full image).

Table Name: Pinbot
Author: unclewilly
Table Version: 1.0.2 (VP9.1.2)
Score: 3,694,740 (JAD)



I suck at Pinbot. I mean, royally suck - out of all the tables I've played extensively in real life, it is easily my worst. Just breaking 1 million is a great game for me. Cracking 3 million - even on the VP version - is practically a once-in-a-lifetime achievement.

Table Name: Eight Ball Deluxe
Author: jpsalas
Table Version: 1.1 (VP9.1.2)
Score: 1,205,770 (JAD)



JP got the emulation on this unfortunately all too accurate - tight lanes and super-strong slingshots make it every bit as much of a you-know-what as its real-life counterpart. This particular game I finished the first ball having cleared one rack, the deluxe, and part of the next rack, with about 850,000 points and an extra ball. The extra ball promptly swished the right outlane (nothing but the bottom of the drain) from off the left slingshot and ball 2 rolled SDTM after it came through the A-B lanes and bumpers - no chance to save either one, and virtually no points except for the end-of-ball bonuses. Mongo was not happy. Still think I can and will do much better, but it's a start.

Table: Funhouse
Author: jpsalas
Table Version: 2.1.1 (VP9.1.2)
Score: 24,766,480 (JAD)



Put Rudy to sleep twice, but both midnight multiballs unfortunately ended up being pretty poor. About equal to my best score IRL, though, and still one of my favorite machines.

You guys will have another competitor on Whirlwind, BTW, as soon as I get used to this VP9 version. The real-life table I used to play all the time had very different characteristics (in terms of bounce, the influence of the spinners, etc.), so it's almost been like learning to play the game all over again.



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Posted 12 June 2011 - 07:02 PM

I'm happy when I manage to get 50 % of the top score posted.. great result smile.gif
Anyway playing with a real table is another thing. I don't know if it's easier or harder than Virtual pinball, but if you have a look at pinballhighscores.org you can see insanely high scores, much higher than top scores posted here, and all of them were made on real pinball machines. I thought real pinball was harder but i start to think that it's easier compared to VP. Unless those players are pinball monsters!

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 07:47 PM

QUOTE (fel @ Jun 12 2011, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm happy when I manage to get 50 % of the top score posted.. great result smile.gif
Anyway playing with a real table is another thing. I don't know if it's easier or harder than Virtual pinball, but if you have a look at pinballhighscores.org you can see insanely high scores, much higher than top scores posted here, and all of them were made on real pinball machines. I thought real pinball was harder but i start to think that it's easier compared to VP. Unless those players are pinball monsters!


That's true, but those are also "honor system" scores - someone can claim they scored so many points, and that site takes their word for it. If you go to Twin Galaxies (http://www.twingalaxies.com/ - but you have to register to look at most of the score tables), they've been tracking "official" game and pinball scoring records for 30 years, and they require hard documentation to prove any claimed score - like an actual video recording of the attempt, or a score recorded at an officially refereed tournament. And the pinball scores at TG are pretty much in line with what you would expect to see from top players.

As to whether real vs. virtual is going to be easier or harder, that will probably vary from table to table. The official world record score for Twilight Zone on tournament settings (3 balls, no extra), for instance, is about 1.9 billion, whereas we have someone here who posted a 7.9 billion score (with extra balls, I assume) on one of the virtual TZ tables. The world record tournament score for White Water, on the other hand, is about 5.4 billion, and nobody on the VP8 versions of White Water (all we have ATM) has come anywhere even close to that.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 08:44 PM

that will probably vary from table to table

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 10:16 PM

QUOTE (fel @ Jun 12 2011, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm happy when I manage to get 50 % of the top score posted.. great result smile.gif
Anyway playing with a real table is another thing. I don't know if it's easier or harder than Virtual pinball, but if you have a look at pinballhighscores.org you can see insanely high scores, much higher than top scores posted here, and all of them were made on real pinball machines. I thought real pinball was harder but i start to think that it's easier compared to VP. Unless those players are pinball monsters!

i think that a real pinball in good condition and with the right calibration of the flipper, tilt, etc...could be easier than VP...i remember that when i was playin' the real Whirlwind i could shot a lot of ramp repeatetly and shot easy in the hole...in Vp table the shot are not easy, i think the calibration of the table is wrong, cause if you shot when the ball is approximately in the middle of the flipper you attend to obtain a ramp loop, but often this thing doesn't happen, the ball can go right or left with no sense. i have olso try the old vp8 LOTR and all shot made when the ball is on the left side of the right flipper go in the left lane and not on the ramp or in the other hole....is not possible in real flipper that a shot made when the ball is exact at the center of the flipper and a shot made when it is near the right or left side, both go in the same direction...i think that the jpsalas table expecially LOTR, ROAD SHOW, DRACULA, black night, STAR TREK ng, TOM...are for sure the table that rappresent in the right way a real pinball machine!

Edited by niliang, 12 June 2011 - 10:20 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2011 - 08:40 AM

ALthough the pin is not the top in calibration setting, i post new high score:

vp 9.12

WHIRLWIND NF-UF 1.4.8

MDM NAME: DAV

SCORE:26,558,860

i miss an extraball at the end!


Edited by niliang, 13 June 2011 - 08:41 AM.


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Posted 13 June 2011 - 01:24 PM

From the Better-Than-Nothing Department:

Hard to do well when you avoid Multiball like the plague (severe stutter, invisible balls; the works), but once in a while a fish jumps in to your boat. My best previous 'fish' was 134,xxx,xxx, but I really wasn't impressed then, either.

Attached File  MMJP5.1.JPG   203.78KB   19 downloads
I suspect that my problem is the flashing-light routines (and my GF6200 GPU, of course); would turning them off constitute an illegal alteration?


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147,276,220
Initials: GMP

Edited by GSGregg, 24 August 2011 - 09:37 AM.


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Posted 13 June 2011 - 01:30 PM

QUOTE (GSGregg @ Jun 13 2011, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From the Better-Than-Nothing Department:

Hard to do well when you avoid Multiball like the plague (severe stutter, invisible balls; the works), but once in a while a fish jumps in to your boat. My best previous 'fish' was 134,xxx,xxx, but I really wasn't impressed then, either.

Attached File  MMJP5.1.JPG   203.78KB   19 downloads
I suspect that my problem is the flashing-light routines (and my GF6200 GPU, of course); would turning them off constitute an illegal alteration?


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JP Salas v.5.1
147,276,220
Initials: GMP


I would say it is not an illegal alteration, since you are not distributing the table after ou make the alteration. Plus, for this "competition" you are not supposed to alter the settings of the rom (i.e. not changing the number of balls per game as an example) You are supposed to use rom factory settings.
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Posted 13 June 2011 - 02:19 PM

Hello, ta2686;

I didn't mean 'illegal' in the 'use-a-flipper-go-to-jail' sense; I suppose 'disallowed' would better apply in the spirit of this competition. If, however, taming the lights was accepted as non-interference with the game's Physics, I might be tempted to 'flick a switch' so I didn't have to duck my head at the idea of an additional ball on the field.

I only recently found that my Gfx was set at 16-bit (now, how the hell did that happen? hmm.gif ) and changing it really cleaned up PacDude's Centaur---I just popped off a couple of 6M+ for the first time in months---but it didn't appear to help me on MM.

Maybe my next move (only an upgrade, most likely) will make these games as enjoyable as they should/can be. in the meantime, I finally got my initials up in 'lights'. whtflag.gif

Edited by GSGregg, 13 June 2011 - 08:50 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2011 - 02:36 PM

As I said, I don't think turning off GI lighting would be considered against the "rules of the competition". Now if you used walls to block outlanes or block the path between the flippers that would be considered disallowable. Another thing that would be disallowable would be altering the script to turn off tilting the table. That is more in the vein of what is not acceptable here.
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Guide to adjust volume on DMD tables

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Excel Spreadsheet of VPM emulated tables

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 03:12 PM

TOTAN by jpsalas , VP9.1x ,v3.12FS
Initials: CED
Score: 128.871.220
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Posted 13 June 2011 - 04:00 PM

Elvira ATPM by jpsalas VP9.1x , v1.1 FS
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Score: 22.760.620
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Posted 13 June 2011 - 04:07 PM

QUOTE (ced @ Jun 13 2011, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
TOTAN by jpsalas , VP9.1x ,v3.12FS
Initials: CED
Score: 128.871.220
Attached File  totan_14.png   567bytes   5 downloads


Good one CED! Did you beat the Genie?
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Posted 13 June 2011 - 09:20 PM

QUOTE (ced @ Jun 13 2011, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Elvira ATPM by jpsalas VP9.1x , v1.1 FS
Initials: CED
Score: 22.760.620
Attached File  Sans_titre.JPG   413.33KB   4 downloads

I have played this pin a lot when i was teenager in the 90'
Elvira ATPM by jpsalas VP9.12 , v1.1
Initials: DAV
Score: 28,930,320

Edited by niliang, 13 June 2011 - 09:20 PM.