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#1441 WED21

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Posted 15 December 2023 - 04:23 AM

 

 

I am seeing an issue with Jp's Deadpool now with 10.8beta1807 - 1828.

 

I recently loaded and played JPsDP with 1807, and it started fine. But then I made some changes and saved the table, then after trying to play again, it would not start. It now hangs on the loading screen and for all intents and purposes, is now broken.

 

If I reinstall a new version, it plays fine until its saved, and then once its saved, it will not play again. For testing purposes, I ran the table with older the older 32bit and there are no issues there at all even if you save. Sure seems like a bug.

 

Anyone else seeing this? Is this already known?

I'm having the exact same problem with this table. No other issues with other Flex DMD tables.

 

 

I would look for a corrupted POV file or something as neither i nor a number of others can replicate this issue.

 

Updating FlexDMD solved the problem...



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Posted 15 December 2023 - 04:26 AM

 

Updating FlexDMD solved the problem...

 

 

 

Curious, what version did you have?
 

For 10.8 it is important to use the build vbsouquet made for it

he fixed some issues


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Posted 15 December 2023 - 04:02 PM

 

 

Updating FlexDMD solved the problem...

 

 

 

Curious, what version did you have?
 

For 10.8 it is important to use the build vbsouquet made for it

he fixed some issues

 

Honestly not sure. I don't play many FlexDMD tables. It was probably the one that came with the installer lol!



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Posted 15 December 2023 - 05:45 PM

Do you think it would be possible to have the ability to pull guide lines in from the top and left like GIMP?

It would be very helpful for aligning objects in the editor.



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Posted 15 December 2023 - 06:42 PM

Do you think it would be possible to have the ability to pull guide lines in from the top and left like GIMP?

It would be very helpful for aligning objects in the editor.

Is the grill or the position of the objects not enough?

Or do you need it for something specific?



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Posted 15 December 2023 - 06:45 PM

If I remember correctly you can adjust the size of the grid as well in ui settings.

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Posted 16 December 2023 - 02:29 AM

 

Hey guys!
 
I installed the latest VPX8 update (1829) and in my cab the buttons stopped working, none of them work anymore... funny that with the keyboard plugged in it works normally.
 
One thing that I found strange is that the size of the VPX application file has drastically reduced... before, if I'm not mistaken, it was close to 46,000 Kbytes in size and now it is only 9,000 Kbytes, is that right? Or am I downloading the wrong file?
 
 
anyone with the same situation? Any idea?
 
thanks 
 
 
 

 


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Edited by Urko, 16 December 2023 - 08:13 PM.


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Posted 16 December 2023 - 06:27 AM

1829 x64 master release version is normal size.  I would try re-downloading if the package wasn't about 56 mb.

 

1894 is a 10.8.1 revision and you don't want that.



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Posted 16 December 2023 - 05:42 PM

So I can't seem to get the scores on top of the screen. It is there just not viewable while playing. As in if I Alt tab its there just not in the game How do I get them to show while playing? widows 10 64bit open GL 10.80. Any help please



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Posted 16 December 2023 - 08:07 PM

1829 x64 master release version is normal size.  I would try re-downloading if the package wasn't about 56 mb.

 

1894 is a 10.8.1 revision and you don't want that.

I get confused by what is the latest in the actions list quite frankly.

Is the most recent one to look for , the latest with the title "master" by it.

 

" I would try re-downloading if the package wasn't about 56 mb." ? 56 mb isnt much.


Edited by Urko, 16 December 2023 - 08:12 PM.


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Posted 16 December 2023 - 08:11 PM


I get confused by what is the latest in the actions list quite frankly.

 

 

I recommend to only use those marked:

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That's the latest 10.8.0 version.

 

 

The 10.8.1 versions are very alpha and don't work with VR.

The standalone versions are for android and stuff.

 

You can use the branch selection on the top right side.

 

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Posted 16 December 2023 - 08:26 PM

Is the most recent one to look for , the latest with the title "master" by it.

 

I get confused by what is the latest in the actions list quite frankly.

 

" I would try re-downloading if the package wasn't about 56 mb." ? 56 mb isnt much.

Yeah, "master" is what you want.  Those are the normal 10.8 builds... avoid standalone and 10.8.1.

 

Yeah, I think the guy that was originally having problems said the one he downloaded was 9mb, which is not right.  I looked at mine and it was about 56 mb and the x64 master packages are usually about that range.



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Posted 16 December 2023 - 08:56 PM

Just installed 1829 x64 on my cabinet, 100% ok , no issue with buttons not responding.

https://github.com/v...runs/7192757460


Edited by Urko, 16 December 2023 - 09:40 PM.


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Posted 17 December 2023 - 01:38 AM

 

OK, i need some help here. I just upgraded from 10.8 beta 5 to beta 7 on my cabinet. Right now I wish I hadn't.

The new POV system drives me nuts.

 

Maybe this will help:

 

 

Thanks, I knew pretty much all of this already... in fact, I used these settings with beta 5 to set up my POV files for many of my tables earlier. The one thing I didn't know of is hitting ENTER/Launch Ball when the 'Window' mode rotated the table sideways in beta 7. That didn't happen with beta 5.

After using this 'reset to default' just to get the table rotated back to the proper view, it seems that exactly as I was afraid of, my previous POV settings became useless since they are ignored at this point. Thus, I must redo all of them to get the new .INI files. That's a major PITA with a large number of tables that were set up already fine with the beta 5 'Window' mode... unless I'm mistaken and there is a way to preserve those POV settings AND get the table rotated properly at the same time when generating the INI file. 

 

Yes, I know that if I have a POV file and I go to 'Adjust Camera' in beta 7, then those old POV values are taken into account and I can just hit 'Start' to generate an INI file. This works as long as the old POV file was in 'Legacy' mode. However, if the old POV already used the 'Window' mode in beta 5, then beta 7 displays the table in rotated view, and the only way to get things right is resetting to default and setting up the 'Window' POV values again  :mad:

 

By the way, reading the release notes I found the link that explains these new POV values. This helps, although I wouldn't say it's easy to understand all details.

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This image confuses me somewhat, and it appears to be more convoluted than it should be (at least to me). Also, it doesn't explain what the Player X value means in Video Preferences. But I understand now that those are the 'base' values applied as a starting point when setting up the individual tables.


Edited by htamas, 17 December 2023 - 06:15 AM.


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Posted 17 December 2023 - 02:16 AM

Player X, left or right from centerline of table

Player Y walking closer or farther away from the table

Player Z are you 4'8" or 11'2", vertical height above table


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Posted 17 December 2023 - 04:10 AM

Another thing... it may have been explained somewhere in this lengthy thread, but where did the 'User' tab go in beta 7? That was where you could set up a bunch of settings on a per-table basis which was very handy, and it was saved as part of the POV file. I mean this:
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Edited by htamas, 17 December 2023 - 04:10 AM.


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Posted 17 December 2023 - 04:52 AM

Another thing... it may have been explained somewhere in this lengthy thread, but where did the 'User' tab go in beta 7? That was where you could set up a bunch of settings on a per-table basis which was very handy, and it was saved as part of the POV file. I mean this:
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It was integrated into video preferences.  You can still do "per table" settings but it is a bit more fidgety to set up.  Not sure why they did this except to work with the new .ini system.



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Posted 17 December 2023 - 05:26 AM

 

Another thing... it may have been explained somewhere in this lengthy thread, but where did the 'User' tab go in beta 7? That was where you could set up a bunch of settings on a per-table basis which was very handy, and it was saved as part of the POV file. I mean this:
attachicon.gif Screenshot 2023-12-16 200816.png

It was integrated into video preferences.  You can still do "per table" settings but it is a bit more fidgety to set up.  Not sure why they did this except to work with the new .ini system.

 

The settings in Video Preferences are across the board for all tables. Those were already there forever, so if the per table settings are now eliminated, that is a major regression. I hope this will be back once the final 10.8 version is released.

You say that setting them per table is still possible - how?


Edited by htamas, 17 December 2023 - 06:11 AM.


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Posted 17 December 2023 - 07:05 AM

The settings in Video Preferences are across the board for all tables. Those were already there forever, so if the per table settings are now eliminated, that is a major regression. I hope this will be back once the final 10.8 version is released.

You say that setting them per table is still possible - how?

Video preferences... upper left... click "specific table overrides".



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Posted 17 December 2023 - 12:16 PM

@htamas : If I where you. I would simply analyze what changes between a beta 5 and a beta 7 ini file. Just copy the old one - somewhere, delete and redo the process for that table. Then compare. High chance that you can patch your old ini files to become beta 7 compatible. I haven't investigated this myself, just recently started to make new pov's, so, this is more or less me guessing.


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