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#1261 bpjacobsen

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Posted 05 December 2020 - 03:56 AM

OK I got it working! I installed Icaros per this: https://www.problogb...Fix-Solved.html

 

You have to then add f4v to the list of file types.

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Posted 05 December 2020 - 04:14 AM

bpjacobsen - if you want to figure where a particular media item is coming from (like the mystery video you mentioned), bring up the operator menu (press digit "0"), select Game Setup, and select Show Media Files.  That'll bring up a list of all of the media files for the current game and their locations.

 

For your window/media sizing issues, I'm not clear on whether you're talking about PinballY's windows or Visual Pinball's windows - the latter meaning the windows showing when you're running a game.  If you're talking about what you see when the game runs, PniballY doesn't really involve itself in that; that's up to VP or whatever other player program you're using.


If the sizing issues are with PinballY windows, it might help if you temporarily turn on window borders in the windows in question, so that you can see exactly where the windows are in the layout.  Just right-click on the window in question and select Show Window Borders.  That would help clarify whether the problem is the placement of the windows, or the scaling of the media within the window.

I checked this for the Ted Nugent table but there is only a dmd image file showing, yet it keeps alternating between my custom dmd image and a phantom dmd video or image. See attached. No clue where this is coming from but it's happening for multiple tables.

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Posted 05 December 2020 - 04:48 AM

 

bpjacobsen - if you want to figure where a particular media item is coming from (like the mystery video you mentioned), bring up the operator menu (press digit "0"), select Game Setup, and select Show Media Files.  That'll bring up a list of all of the media files for the current game and their locations.

 

For your window/media sizing issues, I'm not clear on whether you're talking about PinballY's windows or Visual Pinball's windows - the latter meaning the windows showing when you're running a game.  If you're talking about what you see when the game runs, PniballY doesn't really involve itself in that; that's up to VP or whatever other player program you're using.


If the sizing issues are with PinballY windows, it might help if you temporarily turn on window borders in the windows in question, so that you can see exactly where the windows are in the layout.  Just right-click on the window in question and select Show Window Borders.  That would help clarify whether the problem is the placement of the windows, or the scaling of the media within the window.

I checked this for the Ted Nugent table but there is only a dmd image file showing, yet it keeps alternating between my custom dmd image and a phantom dmd video or image. See attached. No clue where this is coming from but it's happening for multiple tables.

 

 

 

Is that score not an actual B2S DMD display?


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Posted 05 December 2020 - 05:03 AM

I don't think so. check out the following youtube video I uploaded showing this on another table. Seems to be happening across the board.

 

https://youtu.be/HWlzxFA0Pv8

 

I watched the whole thing record and not once did this other phantom dmd appear. It stayed on the freezy dmd. This only shows in the pby menu, not when running the table. It has to be pulling old videos from somewhere. I know it's the same screen since I moved it and both alternating displays moved so it's not a case of having like dmd and topper enabled in the same area. This is insane!


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Posted 05 December 2020 - 06:41 AM

Are you sure that is not a B2S or pinMAME DMD?

 

does pinballY have the ability to run B2S backglasses in the front end?

 

I know pinballX does, it will run the B2S backglass, and the ROM
so what ever it is configured to do when the table is running, will appear in the front end
including the B2S DMD and the pinMAME VPM display if it is configure to show when playing the table

and if you have a DMD video playing, and the backglass or ROM happens to also use that screen
bye bye video


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Posted 05 December 2020 - 11:26 AM

PinballY can do that yes.


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Posted 05 December 2020 - 11:47 AM

PinballY can do that yes.

I wonder then if he is looking at pinballY attempting to run the b2s glackglass and rom?
maybe he has it configured where it is kind of fighting with the videos?


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Posted 05 December 2020 - 12:44 PM

Maybe. But, how hard can it be to look at the xml for the table name and look at the same named files how they actually look like ?


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Posted 05 December 2020 - 03:06 PM

Maybe. But, how hard can it be to look at the xml for the table name and look at the same named files how they actually look like ?

Well, I already checked that. The only media that shows up for these tables is the images I have in the dmd images folder. I think what I'm seeing is indeed the vpinmame dmd running and alternating with my media. However, I went through all settings and could not find an option to run the dmd in the front end. I know pbx has that option but I'm not finding this option in pby. Since the 'show media files' screen only shows the table video, BG video, dmd image and wheel, that leads me to believe, I'm not seeing a video, but rather an actual live dmd. Does anyone know where the setting is to turn that off? That has to be the issue.

 

also, another way I know it's trying to run the rom is b/c Dracula does the same thing and per the 2nd screenshot, you can see that when it tries to show the dmd, it displays a rom error. PBY most definitely is responsible b/c I don't even have the dmd turned on for these tables. And yes, I read through the entire PinballY help page and found nothing on this.

 

update: someone on the FB group said this is not a dmd, this is the high score feature. It only happens in the wheel. If I check the dmd box to keep it on in the game, only my image stays there and no alternation between image and dmd/high score. Still trying to figure out how to turn this off.

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Posted 05 December 2020 - 09:30 PM

I found it. I have attract mode turned off and it still displays the high score. Unfortunately, this is a game level setting under the operator menu. There is not a global setting for this which is in my opinion very much needed when you have over 800 tables and you don't want this to come on for any of them. Hmm



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Posted 05 December 2020 - 10:04 PM

I found it. I have attract mode turned off and it still displays the high score. Unfortunately, this is a game level setting under the operator menu. There is not a global setting for this which is in my opinion very much needed when you have over 800 tables and you don't want this to come on for any of them. Hmm

 

It might be worth adding a global option to disable high scores.  I just hadn't thought of it before; I think this is the first time anyone has said they wanted to disable it.  For now, you could always use a little Javscript to disable it for the current game, each time a game is selected - something like this should work:

gameList.on("gameselect", ev => { 
    if (ev.game && ev.game.highScoreStyle != "None")
        ev.game.update({ highScoreStyle: "None" });
});


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Posted 05 December 2020 - 10:46 PM

is there a way to have the dmd run live in the front end? This way you can see the high scores right in the dmd itself.



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Posted 05 December 2020 - 11:11 PM

is there a way to have the dmd run live in the front end? This way you can see the high scores right in the dmd itself.

 

No, not in the sense of running PinMame on the DMD.  You could probably program that through Javascript if you really wanted it; I've never been enthusiastic about it myself because of the time it takes VPM to load every time you switch games.



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Posted 06 December 2020 - 01:47 AM

 

is there a way to have the dmd run live in the front end? This way you can see the high scores right in the dmd itself.

 

No, not in the sense of running PinMame on the DMD.  You could probably program that through Javascript if you really wanted it; I've never been enthusiastic about it myself because of the time it takes VPM to load every time you switch games.

 

 

that would be terribly slow for some roms

they have post diagnostics etc to run, one would have to wait for those and then wait for the ROM to cycle to the scores
plus the ROM audio would start playing, and for some roms, since there will be no table feed back, you may get nothing but a balls not installed error
or some other error due to no switch or timer feedback etc


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Posted 06 December 2020 - 04:13 AM

true. not a good idea



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Posted 06 December 2020 - 05:36 AM

Welp, thanks to all for the help. I'm happy to say I have working videos for all of my tables now. I am digging PBY fer sure. seems to run faster than X and recording works well other than the hangups in batch recording but it won't affect me much at this point since I'm all caught up. Now on to my FP tables and FX3. Hopefully they are still working. 



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Posted 06 December 2020 - 05:45 AM

Welp, thanks to all for the help. I'm happy to say I have working videos for all of my tables now. I am digging PBY fer sure. seems to run faster than X and recording works well other than the hangups in batch recording but it won't affect me much at this point since I'm all caught up. Now on to my FP tables and FX3. Hopefully they are still working. 

 

Did you finally kill off the last of the VPX playing the tables issues?


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Posted 08 December 2020 - 02:16 AM

can someone please provide a screenshot of their future pinball setup in pby using future dmd? the setup is not exactly the same as pbx so it's a bit confusing for me. I just want to be able to run future dmd when I launch FP tables and have it shut off when existing the table.



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Posted 08 December 2020 - 02:35 AM

I make my own DMD :)

 

You can use it. Change it or what ever. You might wanna put black boarder around the numbers because of the emreel will put a line at the bottom or on the side. I have to redo this anyway if I ever use this. Space out by 10 or 11 using black color. :)

 

I don't use EMReel boarder.

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Posted 08 December 2020 - 04:24 AM

I just would like to know what settings should be entered for FP in PBY to launch FP tables with future dmd and have the dmd close when exiting.