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[Tesla]

Any pics of it?

 

Haven't these ALP's been around a while? I was hoping someone had done it already.

 

If it's up to me to attempt a hardware-hack... I'll put in on my short-list, but I'll have to circle-back to it later.

Edited by Tesla, 12 November 2023 - 04:04 AM.

[wiesshund]

if its just a pot, doesnt pinscape take pots?

[Tesla]

if its just a pot, doesnt pinscape take pots?

 

Something like that. I'm using the Launch-Button for now ... we'll come back to it later if you are game.

 

Right now, the cabinet tests good, but I still have electronics hanging out the back of the Backbox, so I think I'll be working on that today.

[Tesla]

Backbox work is done for now.

 

I removed the AtGames video-board and properly installed the BuyStuffArcades video-controller in there.

 

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Looking to now get the new LG-32in Playfield monitor more completely installed, so I can re-install the glass.

Edited by Tesla, 13 November 2023 - 03:29 PM.

[Tesla]

I got the new LG-32in playfield monitor installed down in there pretty good. I then temporarily re-installed the glass and outer-rails to see how it all fits-together, looks, and plays. I think it turned-out pretty good so far.

 

Here are some pictures that show my progress so far (and matches this thread).

 

https://drive.google...GVI?usp=sharing

[wiesshund]

Cool pics but

 

Who is the lady sitting on the toilet, with no bra on, and her panties around her ankles?

[Tesla]

Notes on installing LG 32 inch computer monitor.

 

1. if nothing else, black foam core board would work as an easy bezel.

 

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2. Personally, i would just put a tiny finger sized access hole in the cab side.

 

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3. That monitor has a standard vesa mount, so you may be able to implement that in the mounting might make life easier

 

No, the LG-32inch monitor did not need to be de-cased.

 

So, the rails and frame seen in that video ... AtGames re-designed those and it's all perfectly formed plastics and metal-framing now.

 

1. I removed the old (now blown) AtGames 1080p LCD-Panel from the supplied AtGames plastic/foam Bezel-Frame/Glass-Holder. With a slight modification, the Bezel-Frame can be re-used (which is good because it is also the Glass-Holder-Support and the glass is pretty heavy).

 

2. Turns-out, you can get to the button from the back and underneath. And like you said ... it's set-it and forget-it anyway. Seems fine with no hole..

 

3. The cabinet has two horizontal MDF supports, that were really just to keep the upper-cabinet ridged. For now, I used them (with some 1x4's and dense-foam on their tops) to build a cradle (of proper height) for the monitor. Plastic side-rails kept as is, and re-installed modified Bezel. I didn't spend much time on it, but it turned out ok.

 

This solution provides the actual 32-inch LCD-panel being only about 1-2mm off-center (you can't really tell). At some point I will likely re-visit this, but I wanted yall to know this works for a quick install. It should be OK for a little while, but I don't think the LG's back-case is really designed to support the full-weight of the monitor (that's what the VESA-mount is for). 

 

I will then take your advice and buy/build a simple flat-ish mount that attaches at the 100mm VESA-mounting point. The left plastic rail will have to be modified or removed to allow the monitor to shift-over another 1-2 mm. There will still need to two attachment points on the left to support the left-side of the Bezel/Glass-holder-Support (they are built-into the left plastic rail). This will take some parts-collection and planning before it tear it apart again.

Edited by Tesla, 14 November 2023 - 09:40 PM.

[Tesla]

Cool pics but

 

Who is the lady sitting on the toilet, with no bra on, and her panties around her ankles?

 

How did that get in there? That's Taarna (I guess she took-it).

 

And BTW, she wants to know when the updated B2S Backglass for her VPX-Table is going to be ready.  

Edited by Tesla, 14 November 2023 - 05:35 AM.

[wiesshund]

 

 

 

And BTW, she wants to know when the updated B2S Backglass for her VPX-Table is going to be ready.  

 

 

When she or someone else gets off their ass and makes one?

 

It just got one with last table update

[Tesla]

 

 

 

And BTW, she wants to know when the updated B2S Backglass for her VPX-Table is going to be ready.  

 

 

When she or someone else gets off their ass and makes one?

 

It just got one with last table update

 

 

Well, one does not address her in that tone.

 

I've had a shortcut to your updated table for months now (sitting on my daily-driver desktop) . Still looking forward to installing it and checking it out after I'm more finished with my cabinet-upgrade. We didn't know the matching B2S-file got updated also.

Edited by Tesla, 14 November 2023 - 03:38 PM.

[wiesshund]

 

 

 

Well, one does not address her in that tone.

 

 

 

 

Unless she would like to find her Cels sitting in direct sunlight for a few weeks to fade her into nothingness, instead of safely stored
i will address her how ever

[Tesla]

I have reprogrammed my ScreenRes.txt file to be more like before:

 

https://www.vpforums...=51157&p=529564

[wiesshund]

 

 

I've had a shortcut to your updated table for months now (sitting on my daily-driver desktop) . Still looking forward to installing it and checking it out after I'm more finished with my cabinet-upgrade. We didn't know the matching B2S-file got updated also.

 

 

If you have older table
I am not sure which backglass you may have?

Unless you get the classic NON DMD table version
The Backglass is going to be just static

 

and you are probably going to want to use the 256x192 DMD size in the table script options.

 

I believe i included a DMD Frame, and DMD Style code snippet to use as well, if you want

[Tesla]

 

 

and you are probably going to want to use the 256x192 DMD size in the table script options.

 

I believe i included a DMD Frame, and DMD Style code snippet to use as well, if you want

 

 

It should be all set from before, but I'm sure it will complain about something. I will try my best to wrangle it back into submission. 

 

It's gonna sound awesome with the new sound-system upgrade. I've never had a sub-woofer connected before.

[wiesshund]

Depending on what before means, it may do you no good

 

The table recently entirely changed

[Tesla]

Now that my ScreenRes.txt is perfect and my DMDdevice.ini is cleaned up ...

 

most pre-installed VPX tables I've tried seem to boot and work properly with no other intervention. I noticed that sets of similar-tech tables started working together, as the configs were fixed-up/edited.

 

But I noticed a trend with a favorite and a similar-motherboard one ... Both Williams' Terminator-2 and Getaway-HighSpeed-2

 

I can hear them, but neither are displaying the DMD-graphics anywhere. Neither are colorized so I think it's just rom-generated via VPinMame... simple.

 

ScreenRes.txt and DMDdevice.ini are good.

But it's the same in VPinMame-Setup for the T2 rom-test ... I can hear it but not see it running anywhere.

 

I wonder what I am missing still for these ?

Edited by Tesla, 15 November 2023 - 03:47 AM.

[wiesshund]

Now that my ScreenRes.txt is perfect and my DMDdevice.ini is cleaned up ...

 

most pre-installed VPX tables I've tried seem to boot and work properly with no other intervention. I noticed that sets of similar-tech tables started working together, as the configs were fixed-up/edited.

 

But I noticed a trend with a favorite and a similar-motherboard one ... Both Williams' Terminator-2 and Getaway-HighSpeed-2

 

I can hear them, but neither are displaying the DMD-graphics anywhere. Neither are colorized so I think it's just rom-generated via VPinMame... simple.

 

ScreenRes.txt and DMDdevice.ini are good.

But it's the same in VPinMame-Setup for the T2 rom-test ... I can hear it but not see it running anywhere.

 

I wonder what I am missing still for these ?

make sure use external DLL is checked

 

the VPM DMD could be set to hidden in table script
also the VPN DMD's location could be off screen

VPM saves those in registry

 

Youd rather have freezys display them anyways, they look nicer

[Tesla]

 

Now that my ScreenRes.txt is perfect and my DMDdevice.ini is cleaned up ...

 

most pre-installed VPX tables I've tried seem to boot and work properly with no other intervention. I noticed that sets of similar-tech tables started working together, as the configs were fixed-up/edited.

 

But I noticed a trend with a favorite and a similar-motherboard one ... Both Williams' Terminator-2 and Getaway-HighSpeed-2

 

I can hear them, but neither are displaying the DMD-graphics anywhere. Neither are colorized so I think it's just rom-generated via VPinMame... simple.

 

ScreenRes.txt and DMDdevice.ini are good.

But it's the same in VPinMame-Setup for the T2 rom-test ... I can hear it but not see it running anywhere.

 

I wonder what I am missing still for these ?

make sure use external DLL is checked

 

the VPM DMD could be set to hidden in table script
also the VPN DMD's location could be off screen

VPM saves those in registry

 

Youd rather have freezys display them anyways, they look nicer

 

 

Yeah, it's like there is yet another list of DMD-graphics target coordinates ... now related to vPinMame and use of VPX-Table ROM ... . I'm sure some exact terms are wrong but I think you get my meaning.

 

Interesting that there doesn't seem to be a way to reset them. I tried the Reset-Button in the F1-Config, but it did not seem to do anything.

 

OK, I will try the work-around of using External-DLL/Freezys . It's just that I was purposely trying to keep this set of tables as retro and simple-setup ... using VPinMame rendering only. But whatever ... if I've lost that functionally all of a sudden ... I guess I will just try patching-it-up so I can even see the DMD again. 

Edited by Tesla, 15 November 2023 - 05:10 PM.

[wiesshund]

As i said vpm stored DMD positions in registry
Per ROM

you would have to go into the registry for each ROM entry and edit the window positions, most likely back to 0, 0

there is no button for magic reset on that

 

Using external DLL has no bearing on "retro / simple"

it isn't going to change the display aside from you can adjust things better for visibility, and it will abide by global size/position settings.

 

Only ROM off hand that you MUST use the VPM display for is Strikes N Spares
because it uses a double DMD which freezy's cannot display, yet.

[Tesla]

As i said vpm stored DMD positions in registry
Per ROM

you would have to go into the registry for each ROM entry and edit the window positions, most likely back to 0, 0

there is no button for magic reset on that

 

Using external DLL has no bearing on "retro / simple"

it isn't going to change the display aside from you can adjust things better for visibility, and it will abide by global size/position settings.

 

Only ROM off hand that you MUST use the VPM display for is Strikes N Spares
because it uses a double DMD which freezy's cannot display, yet.

 

Seems like others (likely newer users) who:

- upgrade their displays (on an existing, in-place VPX install) 

- use only vPinMame for their DMD-graphics rendering (no use external-DLLs or knowledge of Freezys)

... they are gonna fall-into a hole that is hard to get out of.

 

So, you are saying to make vPinMame's poor handling of graphics-targeting irrelevant . Go External-DLL and easily manage coordinates from DMDdevice.ini ... right?

 

As for the style of the actual dots, you are saying they are as good or better in Freezy's? Honestly, I don't remember. I was thinking the DMDs should look a little old because these are some of the first with that Williams-motherboard and I was thinking it would be cool to keep a couple of them vanilla (more authentic ?).

Edited by Tesla, 15 November 2023 - 07:07 PM.