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#101 Shredhed

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:45 PM

Hi,

    I have a question, I'm attempting to set this up and i have a BT adaptor plugged in but my wiimotes are not recognized.  Is there some other software i need to get the wiimotes recognized?  I'm assuming its the BT adaptor that receives there signal.  Can't wait to get this working.

 

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 02:05 PM

Anyone planning on selling kits for the callibration board and the head light. I would buy one. ;)

 

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 02:20 PM

You can pair Your Wiimotes With the usual Windows BT Stack. In Windows 7 absolutely no Problem. To keep them connected I use a utility called WiiPair.

GLXB, AS far AS a kit is concerned, Conrad.de ships all the necessary parts for Less than 20€

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 02:22 PM

You can pair Your Wiimotes With the usual Windows BT Stack. In Windows 7 absolutely no Problem. To keep them connected I use a utility called WiiPair.

GLXB, AS far AS a kit is concerned, Conrad.de ships all the necessary parts for Less than 20€

 

 

Got it thanx.   It was the dongle not being recognized.  Once i got icon in taskbar, it was just a matter of synching the wiimotes using the builtin software in Win Vista...

 

 

Now the wiimotes work its on to the calib board and sensor.  So close i can taste it....



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Posted 31 March 2013 - 02:43 PM

You can pair Your Wiimotes With the usual Windows BT Stack. In Windows 7 absolutely no Problem. To keep them connected I use a utility called WiiPair.

GLXB, AS far AS a kit is concerned, Conrad.de ships all the necessary parts for Less than 20€

 

yeah I know I can buy the bits, but I'm lazy. ;)

Was just wondering if someone would make up the callibration boards and head mounts.

 

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 03:18 PM

wow!

 

this is some pretty cool stuff.. now combine this with stereo rendering and you have the perfect pinball simulation (at least from a rendering point of view)..



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Posted 31 March 2013 - 04:39 PM

The new videos are great!  It's amazing how deep some of these playfields actually are, I haven't played many of the real life tables and was surprised at how narrow the view gets on the static cam for some of the games.  I'm assuming that the more narrow the static cam rendering, the more depth the playfield has in real life?



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Posted 31 March 2013 - 10:17 PM

Hi

Today i update BAM.

Newer version have new HappyCab mode.

HappyCab (user from GoPinball.com)  asked about the possibility of continuous rolling camera settings to imitate head tracking

More info on my site:http://ravarcade.pl/...1-completed,34.

This is an experiment, so don't expect too much, but few users already found it "cool". 

The "feel" of table depth should be stronger, when You look at table only one eye.


Edited by ravarcade, 31 March 2013 - 10:19 PM.

BAM page: http://www.ravarcade.pl

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 10:30 PM

If this is what I think it is (automatic alteration of camera angle to simulate head tracking), then I can't wait to check it out!  Was just playing Tron with your mod so I'll update and try it again :).

 

EDIT:  Yes it is, thanks for this addition, it lets us sample what the effect will look like before getting the head tracking hardware setup.  Now just to try and find some good settings.

 

And if you're prone to motion sickness then be careful with how you set the sway range and interval ;)

 

I'm thinking that if I drink just the right number of beers then I can get myself to sway at the same speed as the HappyCab and get a perfect effect :)

 

EDIT EDIT:  And you're absolutely correct about the 3D effect becoming stronger when you look at it with only one eye.  That's cool, weird, but cool! Now, where did I put my eye-patch?  Arrrrrr ;)


Edited by StreetPreacher, 31 March 2013 - 10:47 PM.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 08:37 AM

try Pirates of the Carribean with an eye patch and HappyCab Mode to simulate waves... Perfect!

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:55 AM

I just added menu to help set right Cam postion in Static Cam mode.

http://ravarcade.pl/...mx-y-z-right,35


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 03:46 PM

I just added menu to help set right Cam postion in Static Cam mode.

http://ravarcade.pl/...mx-y-z-right,35

 

 

thanks for the new mode..  but now i have a problem in wiimote mode.  I can't move pass the Scale Y setting in the menu.  The cursor just stops won't go any further.



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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:02 PM

hold on.. i checki it

Edited by ravarcade, 01 April 2013 - 05:03 PM.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:21 PM

I just added menu to help set right Cam postion in Static Cam mode.

http://ravarcade.pl/...mx-y-z-right,35

 

 

thanks for the new mode..  but now i have a problem in wiimote mode.  I can't move pass the Scale Y setting in the menu.  The cursor just stops won't go any further.

Fixed. My mistake.

 

Please redownload BAM.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:52 PM

ok, just joking, but received my sony camera today from ebay, waiting for update (really just kidding) Love what your doing, its awesome



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Posted 01 April 2013 - 07:22 PM

I just added menu to help set right Cam postion in Static Cam mode.

http://ravarcade.pl/...mx-y-z-right,35

 

 

thanks for the new mode..  but now i have a problem in wiimote mode.  I can't move pass the Scale Y setting in the menu.  The cursor just stops won't go any further.

Fixed. My mistake.

 

Please redownload BAM.

 

 

yep that did it.  Thank You !



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Posted 02 April 2013 - 02:54 PM

ok, just joking, but received my sony camera today from ebay, waiting for update (really just kidding) Love what your doing, its awesome

Just kidding but you will need two sony cameras :)

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 01:07 PM

Ok i seem to have it working.  Since my playfield is actually sunk down about 5 inches into my cab, trying to mimic a playfield on a real pinball, I  had to do some creative angling on the wiimotes to get all three points. Anyway i was able to get it calibrated, and the single LED is being picked up by the wiimotes.  It looks very cool. nice job dood.

 

A couple of questions:  I notice on the camera assistant(thing in upper right corner) that the "optimum viewing" placement is represented by a bright asterisk.  Which when i move the camera led to this location the table looks more centered, deeper etc...

But when i move the camera led to where my actual eye location is, it seems to "zoom" the table.  I guess my question is, is there anyway to adjust that "optimum asterisk" to make it more where my actual head location is ? so it doesn't look so zoomed when i put the camera led at eye location ?

 

Also do you have any suggestions on FP or Nvidia driver settings to make the 3D effect smoother.  It's smooth now but i want to see if i can get it as close to what you have in your video(which is awesome by the way).

 

 

Excellent work on this project.  Sliced bread doesn't have dick on this, this is way better ;-)  I can go without eating, but i can't go without messing around with this, its so cool.

 

Again great job ! Keep up the good work.



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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:44 PM

My Bluetooth dongle will not see my Wii remotes. Can someone give me a model number of a Bluetooth dongle that seems to work well with Win7 64bit and the Wii remotes please? Thanks.



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Posted 03 April 2013 - 04:23 PM

Ok i seem to have it working.  Since my playfield is actually sunk down about 5 inches into my cab, trying to mimic a playfield on a real pinball, I  had to do some creative angling on the wiimotes to get all three points. Anyway i was able to get it calibrated, and the single LED is being picked up by the wiimotes.  It looks very cool. nice job dood.

 

A couple of questions:  I notice on the camera assistant(thing in upper right corner) that the "optimum viewing" placement is represented by a bright asterisk.  Which when i move the camera led to this location the table looks more centered, deeper etc...

But when i move the camera led to where my actual eye location is, it seems to "zoom" the table.  I guess my question is, is there anyway to adjust that "optimum asterisk" to make it more where my actual head location is ? so it doesn't look so zoomed when i put the camera led at eye location ?

 

Also do you have any suggestions on FP or Nvidia driver settings to make the 3D effect smoother.  It's smooth now but i want to see if i can get it as close to what you have in your video(which is awesome by the way).

 

 

Excellent work on this project.  Sliced bread doesn't have dick on this, this is way better ;-)  I can go without eating, but i can't go without messing around with this, its so cool.

 

Again great job ! Keep up the good work.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

As I understand it 5 inches above the TV screen is glass. So you can not put IR LED for 3 point, which displays the BAM. You can place the IR LED 5 inches above the point.

In that situation You should keep IR LED 5 inches above "eye" to get right view/perspective.

 

This a bright asterisk represents position of light source (in game virtual light, not IR LED i reality).

 

Today I will make another update. A will add option to enter "shift" in Y axis.  It will allow  to remove this 5 inches.

 

My tips to make it look more like on videos:

1. Close one eye. It will greatly improve "feeling" of depth. When two eyes looking, your brain "sees" that perspective is "a little cheated".

2. Make own video with cam. Realy. You will see same results.

 

 

My Bluetooth dongle will not see my Wii remotes. Can someone give me a model number of a Bluetooth dongle that seems to work well with Win7 64bit and the Wii remotes please? Thanks.

 

 

It is hard to pair Wiimotes to pc.

 

Before You start connection:

1. Make sure to remove any previously installed devices called: RVL-CNT-01 from "devices & printers" menu. (After computer restart previously paired WiiMotes stays "installed" but they dont work).

2. Connect WiiMotes.

 

BAM sometimes don't detect WiiMotes right. If You see in "wiimote cam" menu battery status higher than 0% and BAM don't displays "dots" => restart BAM.


Edited by ravarcade, 03 April 2013 - 06:14 PM.

BAM page: http://www.ravarcade.pl

current BAM version: v1.5-317,  released: Oct 11, 2020