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[wiesshund]

 

 

C ya all in the next cycle..

 

So what time tomorrow do we start?

[toxie]

I guess Gaston is already on it. 

[Thalamus]

Something happened to Juegos Populares, Aqualand - maybe other Juegos ? Between 5150 and 5185. Way to easy test this,

Solenoid drop targets S6,S7,S8 once dropped, does not come back up.

[wiesshund]

@Toxie

was this supposed to have the coloured ROM support fully working? as well as listing them?

seems to barf at stern coloured rom names

but maybe i was mistaken on the coloured rom inclusion?

[Thalamus]

I've "updated" to Carny's build since 3.3 release. I never checked if the colored names where in the list or not before doing it. But, if they are, I expect that they isn't working. That is what is supposed to still be the difference between the VPU built version from Carny and the official one here.

[wiesshund]

I've "updated" to Carny's build since 3.3 release. I never checked if the colored names where in the list or not before doing it. But, if they are, I expect that they isn't working. That is what is supposed to still be the difference between the VPU built version from Carny and the official one here.

 

they not in list, and definitely isn't working

 

i might have been mistaken, i had thought toxie said they were now incorporated into the standard build

[apophis]

Are you using this link?

http://vpuniverse.co.../4236-sambuild/

[Thalamus]

There is still a separation of the official and the color implementation. It used to be that the official didn't conclude sam, but, that changed maybe a year back or so. Right now, if you want color, let's call it - color hack, you have to use Carny's build from VPU. What I know, is that if you introduce color, via esp. freezy, you will introduce some stability issues at least on win7. Often having to load the table via editor -> file -> open instead of using maybe a association of vpx being opened by vpx executable.

[wiesshund]

There is still a separation of the official and the color implementation. It used to be that the official didn't conclude sam, but, that changed maybe a year back or so. Right now, if you want color, let's call it - color hack, you have to use Carny's build from VPU. What I know, is that if you introduce color, via esp. freezy, you will introduce some stability issues at least on win7. Often having to load the table via editor -> file -> open instead of using maybe a association of vpx being opened by vpx executable.

i will take a gander at carney's build

it's only a dll, so i can rename present one and check it out

 

i wish there were more of the no patching needed kind
the Pin [You can not say this here because they are needle pricked IP stealing butt pirates] DMD ones
where you just drop in the pal and vni

I guess those do not work except for LCD and that specific LED display
but being as i use LCD that part is fine
They seem a bit less ROM version dependent as long as no rom scenes have changed

 

May have to look into how to make them

Edited by wiesshund, 28 December 2020 - 12:39 AM.

[Thalamus]

There is only a few patches, mostly because there are two kind of programs. One is pinballbrowser, where you need to buy an license in order to write back data that you create and it is mostly focused on Stern I would say. The other I can't mention here. A java app, where you can make "sidecar" files for the rom, included in Carny build too.

 

Very roughly explained I admit.

[wiesshund]

the word we cant say here - editor was the one i was thinking of

does not require changing the base rom

 

looks like it costs 10 euro though, and you cant buy it unless you buy the display panel

bummer

[Thalamus]

What ? pin to dmd editor is totally free. https://drive.google...bT_s_DhHZqwq9CI

[apophis]

There is still a separation of the official and the color implementation. It used to be that the official didn't conclude sam, but, that changed maybe a year back or so. Right now, if you want color, let's call it - color hack, you have to use Carny's build from VPU...

Can you help me understand why there is a separation between the official and the color hack implementations? Why not merge the two?

[Thalamus]

I don't know. Maybe the main devs doesn't like the way it is currently implemented and will incorporated it into pinmame in a different way ?

[apophis]

Welp, I am messing around with Sound Command Mode, and some ROMs don't seem to be responding. For example tom_12 doesn't respond to manual commands, and therefore I think the F6 dump is not working. On the other hand, bttf_a27 does respond to commands and the F6 dump feature is working on that one. Haven't tested enough to find a pattern yet.

[toxie]

I don't know. Maybe the main devs doesn't like the way it is currently implemented and will incorporated it into pinmame in a different way ?

Yeah, kinda. Its 2 things, one is the potential legal trouble that we want to keep away from PinMAME, and the second thing is that at the moment its kinda ugly.

Something happened to Juegos Populares, Aqualand - maybe other Juegos ? Between 5150 and 5185. Way to easy test this,

Solenoid drop targets S6,S7,S8 once dropped, does not come back up.

Thanks for the report, i broke it.  :/

Its alreay fixed.

Will think about if i should rerelease 3.3 then.

[toxie]

Just uploaded a new 3.3b official build. Please test this build (again) as i did do it with my new setup and a somewhat weird compile chain setup.

[wiesshund]

 and a somewhat weird compile chain setup.

 

Well, you have my attention now

[toxie]

Using VS2019 and the old SDKs to do a VS2015ish XP-compatible compile.

[wiesshund]

wonder how many people have it in use still?

 

are there any downsides to an xp compat build?