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[DnaDisturber]

Hello, Dna-D;
 
Well, I sit back with my primitive AGP desktop playing mostly VP8 tables and thinking that the failure of submitted scores to register will pass me by because I'm not playing FS, B2S, Hyperpin, or Vulcan 3D Chess.....so guess what?! I pulled 97 Million out of the hat on VP8 Bad Cats last night, hit YES on the PeH 1.5 interface, then checked the PINemHi website and the score didn't get there. So, I fell back on my old faithful Jack*Bot, submitted the 59M that I wrung out of it, and it logged just as it always has.
 
Back in December and January, I successfully submitted several scores on Bad Cats, and have changed nothing at my end between then and now. While I have been reading about everybody's difficulties recently, my lame computer keeps me from playing tables to which I would apply the remedies that have surfaced, hence the use of PeH1.5 instead of 2.1 or newer (I don't have to open the .ini to switch from VP8 to VP9).
 
As far as VP9 is concerned, I did try to submit a Bad Cats score through PeH2.1 in late December, I believe, but was unsuccessful; since I have some nagging issues in my non-pinball life, I just filed that away as something to be looked into later. Methinks there'll be some retro reading involved.
 
Helluva way to say, "Hi", ain't it?
 
Cheers
 
Gregg

Hi Gregg,

I have a solution for you , if you just rename pinemhi_leaderboard.exe in your 1.5 directory to something else.
Then download the 2.1.2 version , copy the pinemhi_leaderboard from that version to your 1.5 directory.

I believe with that your submitting problems are over....if for some reason it's not working you can always put the old one back.
So just pinemhi_leaderboard.exe replace , nothing else.

And there is also a solution if you want to play an older version of afm with the new version 2.1.2
You can adjust the names in the xml and put the old name of a table instead of the new table (make sure it's a table that was supported earlier of course and that the name is correct (original tablename)
The scores will be submitted but you can only find them in the retired section...
However you can use these to perform challenges and get badges.


Hope this helps and Gregg ,

Edited by DnaDisturber, 18 March 2013 - 11:32 AM.

[chepas]

Dna:

 

What is required for special scores? I just tried Black Knight 2k (With B2S)

 

Before I began I backed up my original NVRam. Started the game with no NV, which opens table to factory settings. I didn't reset the table with F3, I exited the table and loaded from pinemhi again. Made 37 loops with a score of 8 million. Exit table and no game played.

 

Played the game again and got 17 loops with 3.812.890 score. This one appeared on main page, table page but no special loop score has gone up.

 

So maybe I try again but this time load table to factory, exit, load table again, exit again then load table and do the score.?

[DnaDisturber]

Dna:
 
What is required for special scores? I just tried Black Knight 2k (With B2S)
 
Before I began I backed up my original NVRam. Started the game with no NV, which opens table to factory settings. I didn't reset the table with F3, I exited the table and loaded from pinemhi again. Made 37 loops with a score of 8 million. Exit table and no game played.
 
Played the game again and got 17 loops with 3.812.890 score. This one appeared on main page, table page but no special loop score has gone up.
 
So maybe I try again but this time load table to factory, exit, load table again, exit again then load table and do the score.?

A new nvram is just wise when your special score is already high as you need to top that one locally to get it submitted.
That's the only reason.

Maybe you didn't wait long enough with the factory default for a good save of the nvram. Maybe therefore you got the game not played?
A good thing after fresh nvram is to just try a little score to see if i works and then go for the big numbers

Maybe bk2k is not configured right in pinemhi to get the loops...
Another thing to add to the todo list

Thanks for telling

Edited by DnaDisturber, 18 March 2013 - 12:21 PM.

[chepas]

Ok thanks, I thought it might have something to do with that.

 

I was just looking through the registry for Pinmames directorys, do you know if these even stored there?

 

Want to be able to make a script to let pinemhi use its own Nvram folder.

[DnaDisturber]

Easiest way would be to use a whole separate vpinball install for pinemhi. I think pinmame sets them in registry but i' m not sure....

[chepas]

Ok, think i'm sort of led to belive you can only have one vpmame installation at a time.

 

World Cup Soccer with fresh nvram score posted but the 18 goals didn't show up.

 

Edit: I think those 18 goals are nothing to do with it because they weren't :

 

FINAL MATCH GOAL CHAMP
V P   6 GOALS

 

Don't think I made any final match , I drained everytime I got to that point haha

Edited by chepas, 18 March 2013 - 01:35 PM.

[Slydog43]

My trouble with B2s is so strange.  I double checked my exe and version is Visual Pinball rev442, which also gets launched by FPLaunch WIP10 fine, along with just launching the VP exe and loading up B2S tables.  Could it be a security thing?  I'm using PinemHi version 2.1.2FS.  B2S server 1.2.1.  Only thing not working perfectly in my cab (well PinDMD2 not supported yet with hyperDMD).  LedWiz and FP/VP working great now, along with 3D with no significant Micro-stutter.  This is my last thing that I want working on my cab.    I have all the exes in PinemHi dir set to run as admin and no compatibility mode (Same for VP and hyperpin).   

 

I find it really strange how FPlaunch can run vp with b2s but pinemhi can't.  Must be something stupid, but I can't figure it out.  sos

Edited by Slydog43, 18 March 2013 - 01:24 PM.

[chepas]

Yea it does sound strange, I mean even the last game I just played was world cup and that also is b2s. I would at least use rev445, that was a solid build, or the other official 9.14,3,2.

 

AFAI was aware you're only really going to encounter problems when the table was made for the old style b2s. I pretty much re downloaded all the tables that were old style b2s and started fresh adding the B2s server line and the exit line because that's the one that stops the crash on exit and you don't want it exit crashing when playing pinemhi.

[Slydog43]

I'm only testing with BadCats which I took the regular table and added the B2S server stuff.  I know I'm doing that right as I have many times before.  Is there a way to turn on complete logging for PinemHi, I only see error when table is not found etc.  I would like to check vp version that is being run.  I can't think of anything else.  I have tried using rev447 of vp, but same problem.  Going to try on another computer to see if problem persists.

[DnaDisturber]

I'm only testing with BadCats which I took the regular table and added the B2S server stuff.  I know I'm doing that right as I have many times before.  Is there a way to turn on complete logging for PinemHi, I only see error when table is not found etc.  I would like to check vp version that is being run.  I can't think of anything else.  I have tried using rev447 of vp, but same problem.  Going to try on another computer to see if problem persists.

That is easy...
Just folllow the path to the executable in the ini.
Bad cats would be the normal vp9 executable....the first one you see in the inifile.
Start that exe and you know what version is used

I'm not doing anything configuration-wise for table or executable.
It has nothing to do with pinemhi i' m afraid.

Ok, think i'm sort of led to belive you can only have one vpmame installation at a time. World Cup Soccer with fresh nvram score posted but the 18 goals didn't show up. Edit: I think those 18 goals are nothing to do with it because they weren't : FINAL MATCH GOAL CHAMPV P   6 GOALS Don't think I made any final match , I drained everytime I got to that point haha

Yep ....normal goals don't count.....wish it would be that easy...

Basic rule :
.If you can't fill in your initials on a special score locally you certainly didn't get it in pinemhi !

Edited by DnaDisturber, 18 March 2013 - 03:08 PM.

[Dave Beedle]

Thanks, but I did that orginally, without adding the the lines to the script.  I now have added the exit stuff, but still no go.  I love b2s so much now, I couldn't go without it.  Any other ideas?  I'm using Win7x64 with b2s server 1.2, working fine when b2s table gets launched from VP, but errors with launched with PinemHi FS launcher.  I have turning off UAC and enabled Time stamping of files.  

I'm sorry but if you follow the instructions to the letter it will work. I know of 3 tables that use new direct backglass that worked when I played pinemhi yesterday. Bad Cats, BTTF & Scared Stiff with all new DIRECTB2S.

 

This may mean you will have to go back and download the original non B2S table and add the code yourself. Which is only two lines.

 

Table: Bad-Cats_VP91x_1.0FS.vpt

B2S:   Bad Cats (Williams 1989).directb2s

 

Failing that it can't be anything to do with pinemhi apart from maybe what version of VP you're using

 

RE: B2S...It seems to me that there could be some confusion as to how to do the new B2S...I know I was confused by it a bit.  The key thing is that you really don't have to do ANY coding to make the directB2S work.  Other than adding  Controller=CreateObject("B2S.Server") and comment out any other "Controller" lines.  The extra B2S code isn't needed (which is what surprised me) and could be what is causing problems?  As Chepas says, grab the table that Pinemhi wants, grab the directB2S backglass and add the Controller line.  Oh and rename the backglass the same as the table.  Works every time.

Edited by Dave Beedle, 18 March 2013 - 03:49 PM.

[chepas]

It's only when you stray away from some versions of VP and certain tables, noteably addams family, that you will find it can crash VP on exit. Especialy with Win7 anyway , you don't want it crashing on exit otherwise it fails the pinemhi process.

 

By adding the controller.stop sub, this pretty much eradicates that problem, so I always add that line to the very bottom of a script just to be sure.

[DedRok_V]

Aaaaaarg. With my net being down I have to play outside Of PinemHi again ...... Only to get 3.1 Billion on Addams family. Now that it all works fine ..... My end is down.

[DnaDisturber]

Aaaaaarg. With my net being down I have to play outside Of PinemHi again ...... Only to get 3.1 Billion on Addams family. Now that it all works fine ..... My end is down.

fingers stopped working ?  

Marathon-pinball injury nr 1. !!!

[ANDROID]

Congratulations Dedrok on your 3b score on TAF!!! Excellent!!!

 

I just got King of the Realm on Medieval Madness!!!! WOOHOOOO!!!  Never did it before.  Like AFM the flippers stop working and five children savers come out with their rakes in front of a castle SO COOL!!!  If I could master the Catapult shot I could get it close to a Billion.  Very tough getting the ball through the troll stand ups during KotR to the Castle.  All ramps and loops and lock are slowly mounted jackpots even after completing KotR till that ball drains, which unfortunately happened way too soon!!!!  The only downside is I fell short of the High Score by 40m or so.

         Glad I deleted my nvram ahead of time, got fresh booking, cleared etc. exited Pinemhi and then reentered.  Never posted a small score first, glad it all worked!!!

      Thanks again DNADisturber.....excellent job on the 2.1.2 and everything else.

Not sure how to edit the xml game file in PINemHIFS to add games.  Could you, when you have time give a step by step explanation on how to do that in games.xml. also, I cant get T2 CHrome FS to load, says I dont have it.  Checked my table folder and it is Exactly the same from start to finish.  Cant figure it out  have the Underscores right and the version.  Not sure what to do!!

                                              Thanks Andy

[DnaDisturber]

Congratulations Dedrok on your 3b score on TAF!!! Excellent!!!

 

I just got King of the Realm on Medieval Madness!!!! WOOHOOOO!!!  Never did it before.  Like AFM the flippers stop working and five children savers come out with their rakes in front of a castle SO COOL!!!  If I could master the Catapult shot I could get it close to a Billion.  Very tough getting the ball through the troll stand ups during KotR to the Castle.  All ramps and loops and lock are slowly mounted jackpots even after completing KotR till that ball drains, which unfortunately happened way too soon!!!!  The only downside is I fell short of the High Score by 40m or so.

         Glad I deleted my nvram ahead of time, got fresh booking, cleared etc. exited Pinemhi and then reentered.  Never posted a small score first, glad it all worked!!!

      Thanks again DNADisturber.....excellent job on the 2.1.2 and everything else.

Not sure how to edit the xml game file in PINemHIFS to add games.  Could you, when you have time give a step by step explanation on how to do that in games.xml. also, I cant get T2 CHrome FS to load, says I dont have it.  Checked my table folder and it is Exactly the same from start to finish.  Cant figure it out  have the Underscores right and the version.  Not sure what to do!!

                                              Thanks Andy

Hi Andy,

 

Quite an achievement......I should thank you for i didn't know if i had the right bytes for king of the realm part.

I didn't have an nvram that had the king of the realm in......Now i know it works I can make a badge for it....

 

Congrats....

 

As for the xml , this shouldn't be changed (only if you want to play an older version of the tables you could use it, but those scores will not count for the trophy)

adding games in the xml doesn't work. The names of the tables must match the ones in the database otherwise the scores just get discarded.

So only if pinemhi supports the games it will work. older versions that were in pinemhi also still work as i still have them in the database.

In theory you could when your pc isn't strong enough for the new AFM , put the old AFM name in the xml so that pinemhi starts that table instead of the new one...

But like i said earlier , these tables won't count for the trophy. The scores can only be found in the retired section.

With these older tables you can however earn badges and complete challenges !!! 

 

The T2 Chrome edition needs a newer version than 9.12 so I set that to use the alternate executable.

You probably haven't filled the altVP9 value in the ini-file that's probably why it doesn't start.

 

If you have the version that pinemhi wants and the name is the same then it's probably the altvp9...

 

Hope this is the solution for T2 and again congrats on the great achievement...

I'm glad I managed Ruler of the Universe 3 times on my cab.....but king of the realm I don't even get close.... 

 

Edited by DnaDisturber, 21 March 2013 - 02:37 AM.

[GSGregg]

Aaaaaarg. With my net being down I have to play outside Of PinemHi again ...... Only to get 3.1 Billion on Addams family. Now that it all works fine ..... My end is down.

 

 

fingers stopped working ?

Marathon-pinball injury nr 1. !!!

No worries, mate! 'E's got'em insured with LLoyd's of Londonderry! 

[chepas]

T2 runs well with rev 768. Any table that needs an alt is set to 9.14 here.

[DedRok_V]

Aaaaaarg. With my net being down I have to play outside Of PinemHi again ...... Only to get 3.1 Billion on Addams family. Now that it all works fine ..... My end is down.

fingers stopped working ?  
Marathon-pinball injury nr 1. !!!

Mean now that pinemhi works again, my Internet is down.

Fingers work ok ..... And managed to push TAF up to 5.5B.

Congrats on KOTR Andy,

my last game on MM, I missed the last shot. Shot for the open gate and hit the troll, bounce down the outline.

[ANDROID]

Thanks for all the suggestions, esp DNADIsturber;

  I figured it out after doing all the suggestions with altvp.   The problem was with the path.... the first four vp8, vp9, tables, nvram folder paths were correct with ..../Visual Pinball/vpinmame9.14 etc but the ALTvp path I had ..../VisualPinball/vpinmame rev450.....No Space between the words.VisualPinball...added a space and it all worked!!

      DNADisturber....I don't have a cab per se.  I mounted my 47 in Vizio on a wall with rotating mount so when Im done watching TV in the man cave I can swivel it and prop it up angled 20degrees back and it sits on the end of a desk and I use a Xrcade Tank Stick for controller.  It works so well and the blue screen is nice I can change games etc, cause the buttons are programmable and work in conjunction with my keypad.   What I wanted to do is create a list of tables that would load within Pinemhi with the logos. like you have for the games that you CAN submit High Scores, so I dont have to exit PinemhiFS to play them.  If that is not an option then,

Is that something that hyperspin/hyperpin does?  I am a newb when it comes to frontends for cabinets.  I have a hundreds of fullscreen tables, and thought that I could add them(not for high scores but just to look at the logos and blue screen).  Any suggestions, as I normally have to browse through my tables folder, and your blue interface is sweet IMHO.

         Thanks!!!

PS:  Dedrok....I had to make like four SDTM double flips with a pinch of nudge just to keep the KotR going.  So You built up the flashing Six blue Master of logos to solid by hitting the gate and  was on the last one! WOW, you were so close.  I was like EN FUEGO psyched not to let it drain SDTM during that sequence.  I probably wasted four or five balls/extra balls trying for the catapult.  Ball collosion almost works more often getting in Catapult that actually aiming at it.  Dont aim for trolls unless you got a peasant/damsel/joust multiball going.  I had started it once before but never got past the Catapult Jackpot to start the final countdown up the middle!   My previous best high was a long time ago with a vp8 version of about 628 million, but that version was a lot of castle busting, and nailing the lock shot was easier.  Six careful shots and another

Castle Multiball. It is my All time favorite DMD table.

 

Dedrok and others:  Any tips/strategies that you can give me for TAF to maximize points?  I try to complete the mansion when it flashes and got the extra ball center? ramps shot with the right flipper, and the right/center ramp shot that curls around the left and comes down to the right flipper.  I find it really difficult to hit the double jackpot ramp from the upper flipper by looping it around through the pop bumpers around to upper right flipper to try the shot.  It just flies through there and is so much tougher than say the Funhouse shot. 

         T2 flippers, especially the right one is so weak it takes an extremely well placed shot to make the left ramp to get to the 5million dollar 15second jackpot round.  I tried maximizing the loops both left and right but there is a lot of drainage in that game as well, especially bouncing of the slings and draining left outlane.... Any thoughts, anyone?

Edited by ANDROID, 22 March 2013 - 03:58 AM.