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[toxie]

@kiwi: could you please upload some more revs inbetween 2820 and 2859 for shadowshd to test?

that would be neat.

[kiwi]

Link with the revisions:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/c0rw3uyqjnlumej/AABozfqnw8qi1OuzxNxwsYp7a?dl=0

[toxie]

Thanks a lot!

 

So could all that are affected with the slowdowns please find out which revision of these let to the slowdowns? (e.g. which is the last one that did not show it, and the first to have it)

[shadowshd]

Thank you Kiwi,

 

I'll try and report ASAP

 

 

Edit : revisions from 2835 give me ball stuttering.

 

Rev2830 and under : no stutter at all.

 

Thanks

 

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Edited by shadowshd, 12 December 2016 - 06:08 PM.

[toxie]

Thanks!

 

Anybody else with some revision ranges?

[ClarkKent]

Slight ball stutter only now and then in windowed full screen. Absolutely no ball stutter in exclusive fullscreen mode.

[shadowshd]

In my case I have as much stuttering in true FS as in windowed FS.

 

With revs 2830 and below no stuttering, true FS or windowed.

With revs 2835 and above stuttering, true FS or windowed.

 

Thanks.

[TedB]

I haven't tried a lot of versions yet (only 2806 and rev2859) and don't see a difference in performance between them, but I do need full screen mode to avoid stutter.

Edited by TedB, 13 December 2016 - 09:27 PM.

[toxie]

@shadowshd: could you please in core.vbs change the PinMAMEInterval function to:

 

Private Function PinMAMEInterval
        If VPBuildVersion >= 10000 Then
                PinMAMEInterval = 10

        Else
                PinMAMEInterval = 1
        End If
End Function
 

and retest with 2835?

 

In my own build the F keys work, so that must be a glitch..

 

Thanks for testing all the releases, will check the revisions after that..

One more hint maybe that you could give me: Whats the directly next revision you tested that shows the stutter?

 

In version VPX_2_beta_rev2820.zip the stuttering occurs bigtime(and all rev's after this rev). In VPX_2_beta_rev2806.zip it didn't/was still smooth.

 

I don't have the versions between those two.

 

I hope that this helps.. Thanks!

 

 

Could you also please try with some revisions inbetween these two from the link that kiwi posted? Thanks!

[TedB]

@toxie/fuzzel. Would it be possible to include the directb2s on/off checkbox in VPX tables itself. Now it is a global setting and a workaround is needed to handle it per table.

 

http://www.vpforums....569#entry365461

[fuzzel]

@toxie/fuzzel. Would it be possible to include the directb2s on/off checkbox in VPX tables itself. Now it is a global setting and a workaround is needed to handle it per table.

 

http://www.vpforums....569#entry365461

Sorry that's not possible. The D2BS stuff is loaded by the VBA infrastructure that is totally script based. VPX only starts the script handling and can only react on VPX specific script commands.

[shadowshd]

@Toxie: still stuttering sir :-/

Edited by shadowshd, 14 December 2016 - 08:50 AM.

[fuzzel]

Sure. Nothing was changed in this regard.

[sasa12345]

If I change command add credit will not work, only the number 5?

[fuzzel]

Those keys are handled in the core.vbs file. If you need different settings you must change then there.

[Ark Malmeida]

Thanks!

 

Anybody else with some revision ranges?

I tried a bunch of versions last night. 

 

The table I'm using to test is the latest version of Scared Stiff as it is the one that seems to stutter the most. 

For all versions I used the same set of scripts - the ones from the latest version (2870).

I ran exclusive full screen for all versions with vsync and maximum prerendered frames set at 1.

 

I'll start by saying that I get a small amount of stutter regardless of the version I run.  However, it's very minimal for 10.1 final and only slightly worse for 10.2 versions up through 2830. 

 

2835 definitely shows more stutter, but it's hard to quantify how much more although it is noticeable.  The latest versions have a lot of stutter, making them almost unplayable. 

 

I did try making some of the changes that you suggested to the PinMAMEInterval function and those didn't seem to help.

 

Please let me know if you need more information or want me to test specific things.  I'd love to help nail down what the issue might be.  I'm running a cabinet with the following specs so I THINK I should be able to run all current tables without stutter:

 

Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core 3.4GHz
8GB DDR3 1600 SDRAM
GeForce GTX 1060 6Gig
Windows 10

[TedB]

 

@toxie/fuzzel. Would it be possible to include the directb2s on/off checkbox in VPX tables itself. Now it is a global setting and a workaround is needed to handle it per table.

 

http://www.vpforums....569#entry365461

Sorry that's not possible. The D2BS stuff is loaded by the VBA infrastructure that is totally script based. VPX only starts the script handling and can only react on VPX specific script commands.

 

 

OK no problem, there is a workaround. Thanks for your and toxies' continuous work on VP and laying the foundation for the creation of some awesome VP tables. I have been trying out a few new tables after months of absence and some of these VP 10.1 and 10.2 tables are amazing (graphics, physics and performance). 

[TedB]

Please let me know if you need more information or want me to test specific things.  I'd love to help nail down what the issue might be.  I'm running a cabinet with the following specs so I THINK I should be able to run all current tables without stutter:

 

Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core 3.4GHz
8GB DDR3 1600 SDRAM
GeForce GTX 1060 6Gig
Windows 10

 

You have better specs than I have (AMD Athlon II X2 Dual Core 3.0GHz / 4GB - MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti  2GB DDR5) and this table runs quite smooth on mine on the older and new revisions. I don't use db2s though for this table and use W7.

[shadowshd]

I tried a bunch of versions last night. 
 
The table I'm using to test is the latest version of Scared Stiff as it is the one that seems to stutter the most. 
For all versions I used the same set of scripts - the ones from the latest version (2870).
I ran exclusive full screen for all versions with vsync and maximum prerendered frames set at 1.
 
I'll start by saying that I get a small amount of stutter regardless of the version I run.  However, it's very minimal for 10.1 final and only slightly worse for 10.2 versions up through 2830. 
 
2835 definitely shows more stutter, but it's hard to quantify how much more although it is noticeable.  The latest versions have a lot of stutter, making them almost unplayable. 
 
I did try making some of the changes that you suggested to the PinMAMEInterval function and those didn't seem to help.
 
Please let me know if you need more information or want me to test specific things.  I'd love to help nail down what the issue might be.  I'm running a cabinet with the following specs so I THINK I should be able to run all current tables without stutter:
 
Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core 3.4GHz
8GB DDR3 1600 SDRAM
GeForce GTX 1060 6Gig
Windows 10

I'm in the same boat as you Ark, and as you I do my tests with the latest Scared Stiff table.

 

This is exactly what I can note :

 

- no stutter at all with VPX 10.1,

- very light stutter with VPX 10.2 revs 2830 and below, but gameplay isn't affected,

- much more stutter with 2835 and above revs,

 

 

I also tried to :

 

- set nVidia prerendered maximum frames prefs to controlled by application,

- set VPX prerendered max frames video preferences to 0,

- add the Legacy key in the registry,

- modify PinMAMEInterval as suggested by you Toxie,

 

And there's no better changes I can notice.

 

I'm ready to help too

 

My specs :

- Asus B85M-E motherboard with BIOS 2306; I've just checked Asus website and there is a new BIOS version (3504 - improve system stability), I'll try tonight to update, even if I don't think it will have some influence on VPX,

- Intel Core i7-4770 3.4 Ghz up to 3.8 Ghz,

- 2 x 4 Gb DDR 3,

- OCZ Agility 3 240 Gb SSD,

- MSI Geforce GTX 770 Twin Frozr Gaming OC 2GB,

- Windows 10 1607 x64 up to date and nVidia drivers 376.19 - I've just see there's a new 376.33 release available since today, I'll also upate the driver tonight.

 

There's no BIOS or software tweaks and no overclocking, everything is "stock" parameters.

 

Thank you again for reactivity and listening to us

 

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[Umpa]

Ted B states he doesn't use db2s. Is using db2s the issue for the stuttering?