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[DDH69]

DOFLinx uses the joystick inputs under Windows presented by the Pinscape device.  A common problem is Windows picking up the correct drivers for Windows, DOF, and hence VPX does not rely on these.  Strange and erratic readings are often caused by this.  You will have to search this site for some others that have experienced this issue for guidance.  Ensure that you can see the device operating as a joystick in the Windows device test window and the axis move when you shake the Pinscape as per the Pinscape guide.  Once you have that go back to setting up in DOFLinx.

[GCS2000]

DOFLinx uses the joystick inputs under Windows presented by the Pinscape device.  A common problem is Windows picking up the correct drivers for Windows, DOF, and hence VPX does not rely on these.  Strange and erratic readings are often caused by this.  You will have to search this site for some others that have experienced this issue for guidance.  Ensure that you can see the device operating as a joystick in the Windows device test window and the axis move when you shake the Pinscape as per the Pinscape guide.  Once you have that go back to setting up in DOFLinx.

 

In my case pinscape shows up as a game controller in windows and going to the calibration screen the + moves all around as it should but no analog nudge in FX3.  Not a deal breaker not having it but would be nice to get it working at some point

[DDH69]

A couple of things to read and consider;

http://mjrnet.org/pi...troubleshooting

https://www.vpforums...showtopic=42458

[GCS2000]

So I would say I am clearly doing something wrong (and I am sure its just something minor in my ini file)

 

I was working to get my shaker going it is on a Sainsmart board in port 8.  This shows as device #3 so shaker should be 308 which I have set up.  This board also has my solenoids on it as well.

Solenoids work fine and trigger as they should.

 

Shaker - this triggers when I shake the table for trying to do analog nudge it does not trigger at any other time other than shaking the table.

 

Analog nudge does not work - my buttons do however my buttons for nudge are set to L arrow, R arrow and space bar.

 

Below is my ini which I know is wrong.  The shaker behavior is very weird

 

Thanks for any help you can provide.

 

 

FYI I have no other toys other than a shaker motor and solenoids (both of which work as they should in VPX)

 

 

######    DOFLINX - MAIN CONFIG INI FILE     ######

######         UPDATED BY TERRYRED           ######

 

# IMPORTANT! Please go through and edit EVERY section for your particular setup! If you don't you may get errors!

 

# This is a config file for DOFLinx with most of the available settings as a sample.

# DOFLinx works with LEDWiz, PacLed64, Pinscape, Ultimate I/O Sainsmart (FTDI devices), PinControl, and Teensy (or similar).

# Lines that start with a hash (#) or are blank are not processed.

 

# Device outputs are entered in the format of device (D) and output number (#) in the format D##, so controller device 1 and output 3 is "103" without the quotes, controller board 2 output 23 is "223" without quotes.

 

# The keyboard hex code for the "Key to Output / Colour",etc type functions can be found here:

#https://msdn.microso...1(v=vs.85).aspx

#

 

###### DEBUG MODE ######

 

# 0 = OFF (normal operation), 1 = ON. When ON a window will appear and a log file will be created in the EXE directory.

 

DEBUG=0

 

 

########## DIRECTORY PATHS ##########

 

# IMPORTANT!!! Keep this as the first pararameter (other than DEBUG if you need it) to process in your INI file.  The order past ths point is not relevant!

 

# Point to your directoutputconfig.ini file.  Your file may have a number, ie directoutputconfig20.ini

# You can point to any of your directoutputconfig.ini files, but only one.

 

DIRECTOUTPUTCONFIG=c:\DirectOutput\directoutputconfig40.ini

 

# This is the folder where B2SServer.exe can be found on your system

 

PATH_B2S_SERVER=c:\Vpinball\Visual Pinball\Tables\

 

# This is the path to where your B2SServer GlobalConfig is located. Needed for addressable led effects.

 

DIRECTOUTPUTGLOBAL=C:\DirectOutput\config\GlobalConfig_b2SServer.xml

 

# The location of the .FX3 game specific files included with the DOFLinx release package

# Ensure your path has a \ on the end of it

 

PATH_FX3=C:\DirectOutput\FX3\

 

# The path to where you keep all of the .directb2s files that you've downloaded for use with FX3

# Ensure your path has a \ on the end of it

 

#PATH_FX3_B2S=C:\DirectOutput\FX3_B2S\

 

 

######### RGB UNDERCAB LIGHTING #########

 

# RGB Undercabinet Colour Change. RAINBOW = cycle through the colours. RANDOM = use random colour order

 

#RGB_STYLE=RANDOM

 

# What changes the RGB undercabinet colour. TIME = set time period. FLIPPER = flipper press after the RGB_TRIGGER minimum time (to stop rapid colour changes)

 

#RGB_TRIGGER=TIME

 

# The minimum time for change between flipper flips, 1000mS or 1 second

 

#RGB_MIN_TIME=8000

 

# The Device and "RED" port for RGB undercabinet lighting

 

#RGB_OUTPUT=129

 

 

######## FUTURE PINBALL LINK ########

 

# Turn on the attempt to make a full connection to Future Pinball when it is detected as running

 

FP_ATTEMPT_LINK=1

 

# When Future Pinball is detected and a Link is being established, this is the maximum amount of time the FP LINK will be attempted. After this time has passed, DOFLinx will activate it's Default mode.

 

FP_LINK_WAIT_TIME=95000

 

 

######## DEVICES and PORTS for FUTURE PINBALL and FX3 ########

 

# LINK_XX=D##,Default Time,Max Time,Intensity Level

 

# Intensity Level should normally be left at 255 (max). Only PWM outputs used with something like a Shaker Motor can be less than 255.

 

# Device and Ports for the 10 solenoid setup for Flippers, Slingshots, Middle 3 solenoids, Back 3 Solenoids.

 

LINK_LF=305,50,10000,255

LINK_RF=301,50,10000,255

LINK_LS=306,50,1000,255

LINK_RS=302,50,1000,255

LINK_ML=307,50,1000,255

LINK_MC=307,50,1000,255

LINK_MR=303,50,1000,255

LINK_BL=307,50,1000,255

LINK_BC=307,50,1000,255

LINK_BR=303,50,1000,255

 

# Device and Ports for the shaker, gear motor, knocker, beacon and strobe

 

LINK_SH=308,1000,5000,255

#LINK_GR=113,750,10000,255

#LINK_KN=114,120,500,255

#LINK_BK=115,FLASH,200,255

#LINK_SR=116,ON,0,255

 

# Device and Ports for the lights inside the various buttons including Start, Extra Ball, Coin, Exit, Launch Ball and Fire

 

#LINK_ST=117

#LINK_EB=118

#LINK_CN=119

#LINK_EX=120

#LINK_LB=121

#LINK_FR=122

 

# Device and "RED" ports for the 5 RGB flashers.

 

#LINK_FLOL=201

#LINK_FLIL=204

#LINK_FLCN=207

#LINK_FLIR=210

#LINK_FLOR=213

 

 

######## DOFLINX DEFAULT and FALLBACK FUNCTIONS ########

 

# These are the default and "fallback" type of functions that are used when DOFLinx is made active, but no link to Future Pinball or FX3 is established. 

 

# Turn on Button lights when DOFLinx is activated (such as EXIT button)

 

BUTTONS_ON=120

 

# Set the key code for the keys being used as Left and Right flippers

# Used for the default fall back if a full link cannot be established with FX3 or Future Pinball

# Left Shift = A0, Right Shift = A1

 

L_FLIPPER_KEY=A0

R_FLIPPER_KEY=A1

 

# The device and port for the left and right flippers.

 

L_FLIPPER_OUTPUT=305

R_FLIPPER_OUTPUT=301

 

# Just in case things go wrong (ie no keyup signal is detected, flipper held down for a long time), what is the maximum time a flipper solenoid / contactor can be in in milliseconds

 

MAX_FLIPPER_ON=5000

 

 

######## KEY TO OUTPUT / COLOUR, etc examples ########

 

# Make the "4" key (key code 34) to pulse controller/output 119

 

#KEY_TO_OUTPUT=34,119

 

# Set the left and right control keys to turn on a specific colour (red) for RGB.

# Example, when nudge keys are used it all goes red.

 

#KEY_TO_COLOUR=A2,109,Red,A3,109,Red

 

# Set the joystick settings for nudge with Pinscape and FX3

JOY_PORT=1

JOY_X_OFFSET=32767

JOY_Y_OFFSET=32767

FX_LEFT_NUDGE_POINT=-3201

FX_RIGHT_NUDGE_POINT=3201

FX_FORWARD_NUDGE_POINT=4345

FX_LEFT_NUDGE_KEY=25

FX_RIGHT_NUDGE_KEY=27

FX_FORWARD_NUDGE_KEY=20

FX_LEFT_NUDGE_INPUT=A2

FX_RIGHT_NUDGE_INPUT=A3

 

# Configure the analogue plunger, such a Pinscape Z axis, to work with FX3

PLUNGER_AXIS=Z

PLUNGER_JOYSTICK_NUMBER=1

PLUNGER_KEY=0D

PLUNGER_PULL_POINT=40000

PLUNGER_RELEASE_POINT=20000

 

 

######## MISC SETTINGS ########

 

# The list of processes that can activate DOFLinx, such as Pinball FX3, Future Pinball, etc. 

 

PROCESSES=Pinball FX3,Pinball FX2,Future Pinball,mamelayplus

 

# An over-ride to the default setting if this is just being used with Pinball FX3, not FX2, FP or other systems that may require the default delay

 

#PROCESS_TO_ACTIVE_TIME=1

 

# AUTO_MX (enabled=1) Allows for FX3 and Future Pinball tables that have DOFLinx support (for 5 RGB Flashers, Beacon, and Strobe) to automatically create basic Addressable Led effects.

 

AUTO_MX=1

 

# Set to 1 to output the game name to the log regardless of the DEBUG flag setting.  Set to 0 to simply follow the DEBUG flag.

# Quite useful when you trying to get the FX3 window game name for setting game specific colours, matching B2S names, etc

 

OUTPUT_GAME_NAME=0

 

 

######## DOFLINX SETTINGS SCREEN ########

 

# Configure the DOFLinx generated settings screen to activate when 4 keys are pressed, left shift, right shift, left ctl and right ctl (both flippers and magna saves)

# Set the Left flipper for UP, right flipper for DOWN, Start button for CHANGE and Extra Ball for EXIT

 

SETTING_ACTIVATE=A0,A1,A2,A3

SETTING_UP=A0

SETTING_DOWN=A1

SETTING_CHANGE=31

SETTING_EXIT=32

SETTING_MESSAGE=L Flipper = Up, R Flipper = Down, Start = Change, EB = Exit

SETTING=UnderCab,115,Under cabinet lighting disabled,Off,Y,114,150

SETTING=Addressable,119,Addressable LEDs Enabled,On,Y,118,50

SETTING=NIGHT,,Night Mode,Off,Y

 

 

######## FX2 GAME COLOURS ########

 

GAME_COLOUR=MsSplosionMan,Dodger_Blue,Pink,Medium_Blue,Purple,Royal_Blue

GAME_COLOUR=PlantsVSZombies,Lime_Green,Yellow_Green,Dodger_Blue

GAME_COLOUR=SouthParkButtersVeryOwnPinballGame,Dark_Red,Blue,Gold,Dark_Violet,Orange,Dodger_Blue,Lime_Green

GAME_COLOUR=SouthParkSuperSweetPinball,Dark_Red,Lime,Blue,Gold,Dark_Violet,Orange,Dodger_Blue,Lime_Green,Yellow_Green

GAME_COLOUR=SuperLeagueASRoma,Lime_Green,Orange,Lime,Yellow,Red

GAME_COLOUR=SuperLeagueZenStudiosFC,Lime_Green,Orange,Lime,Yellow,Red

GAME_COLOUR=SuperLeagueArsenalFC,Lime_Green,Orange,Lime,Yellow,Red

GAME_COLOUR=SuperLeagueLiverpoolFC,Lime_Green,Orange,Lime,Yellow,Red

GAME_COLOUR=SuperLeagueJuventus,Lime_Green,Orange,Lime,Yellow,Red

GAME_COLOUR=SuperLeagueACMilan,Lime_Green,Orange,Lime,Yellow,Red

GAME_COLOUR=SuperLeagueRealMadridCF,Lime_Green,Medium_Blue,Lime,Yellow,Red

GAME_COLOUR=SuperLeagueFCBarcelona,Slate_Blue,Lime_Green,Yellow,Blue_Violet,Lime,Red

Edited by GCS2000, 24 May 2022 - 03:50 AM.

[GCS2000]

Been testing things out this evening and here is some additional info

 

With shaker motor enabled, analog nudge enabled, analog plunger enabled here is the behavior - please note both analog nudge and keyed nudge are active in the ini file

- analog plunge works basically - meaning I pull back and let go it launches the ball but you do not see plunger movement on the screen.  Also once plunged it cause the table to vibrate as if nudged

 

- shake table to nudge and shaker goes off causing a tilt - cannot tell if the nudge worked because it instantly engages the shaker and thus tilt

 

 

 

With shaker motor NOT enabled, analog nudge enabled, analog plunger enabled here is the behavior - please note both analog nudge and keyed nudge are active in the ini file

- analog plunge does not work

 

- shake table to nudge and it works but is fairly sensitive so it tilts with a light shake but I do have to shake fairly hard to get ball movement

 

- shaker of course does not go off

 

 

Will try a few other scenarios and report back as well

[GCS2000]

Ok so more testing/trials and I MAY have figured out the issue.

 

So Debug mode kept showing something that didn't hit me until now.  I have Pinscape lite in the cabinet (for buttons and KLZ of course) and then a Sainsmart for solenoids and shaker.  Debug kept commenting about Ledwiz (which I don't have) and that it could cause conflicts if I don't really have one.

 

I went into Pinscape Config tool and LEDWiz was set to device ID 8 which meant I had a real one.  It says if I don't have a real one to set it to ID 1 which I did and below are my new test results.

 

With shaker motor enabled, analog nudge enabled, analog plunger enabled here is the behavior

 

Shaker motor appears to work it gets triggered at several points throughout the game - seems correct

 

Nudge seems to work as well it does trigger the shaker - guessing maybe it is supposed to do that (not sure) but does not cause tilt unless I give a really good shove

 

Plunger - tries to work but does not launch the ball just kind of hits it (never moves the plunger itself) but I am guessing this is just the parameters I have set for the plunger and needs to be dialed in

 

 

**Important note when the shaker does engage the screen shifts as if I just nudged the table.  I am guessing this means there is a sensitivity issue that needs adjusting - is this something I need to adjust in pinscape or the analog section of doflinx?

 

**Additionally I get no shaker, nudge, or plunger activity in Future Pinball but solenoids do work

 

 

I feel like I am really close.

Edited by GCS2000, 25 May 2022 - 01:17 AM.

[wiesshund]

Sounds like nudge needs more deadzone as it is picking up the shaker motor

 

in VPX you can set the nudge deadzone in keys nudge DOF prefs

or you could perhaps set it in windows in game controller properties, or maybe that is in the pinscape software, that i am not sure as i dont have a pinscape
but it sounds like you either need deadzone, or need to adjust the sensitivity down some using the nudge test table

 

with no deadzone nearly everything will induce nudging
if it has deadzone, then it is perhaps too sensitive

 

VPX prefs wise, try setting like a 5% dead zone and see if any difference is made

if not then the shaker may just be moving the KL25Z around that much.

 

Deadzone is basically much much input it will ignore, before it considers it input
and Sensitivity is how strongly it reacts to what it does consider input.

[GCS2000]

Nudge test table - where might I find that?

 

Sounds like nudge needs more deadzone as it is picking up the shaker motor

 

in VPX you can set the nudge deadzone in keys nudge DOF prefs

or you could perhaps set it in windows in game controller properties, or maybe that is in the pinscape software, that i am not sure as i dont have a pinscape
but it sounds like you either need deadzone, or need to adjust the sensitivity down some using the nudge test table

 

with no deadzone nearly everything will induce nudging
if it has deadzone, then it is perhaps too sensitive

 

VPX prefs wise, try setting like a 5% dead zone and see if any difference is made

if not then the shaker may just be moving the KL25Z around that much.

 

Deadzone is basically much much input it will ignore, before it considers it input
and Sensitivity is how strongly it reacts to what it does consider input.

[wiesshund]

 

Nudge test table - where might I find that?

 

 

 

It should be in your tables folder, it comes with VPX itself

[GCS2000]

 

 

Nudge test table - where might I find that?

 

 

 

It should be in your tables folder, it comes with VPX itself

 

 

Thanks

 

I have fiddled with VPX and feel its decently dialed in, not perfect.  FX3 is still an issue (not sure if the shaker is actually triggering or not tbh) and of course my thread about FP not connecting is an issue as well.

 

Sad to say DOFLinx and these issues are my last remaining hurdles on this cab and I really need to get them resolved.  Just frustrating the # of hours I have spent on it with no resolution such is the hobby.

[DDH69]

In DOFLinx you set the point at which nudge to the left, right and forward triggers.  If your nudge is too sensitive then increase the respective nudge point.  You can try these nudge values in the nudge test with DOFLinx in DEBUG mode and selecting that menu from the right-click menu.