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[wiesshund]

tried table and afm_113 home rom
unfortunately, cant replicate issue

[Pinballman]

 

 

Visual Pinball, just copy the files from the zip
and replace, allowing ALL overwrites

 

VPinMAME

 

1st i run the existing setup.exe, and i uninstall VPinMAME
BUT i preserve the settings (it asks you when you uninstall it, you cant miss it)

 

Then i copy everything from the new version VpinMAME zip
EXCEPT VPMALIAS.TXT  because i dont want to blow up my existing aliases, but i do review that file in the sip to look for any official additions, like nfl
and manually add thsoe to my existing

And other than the alias file, i paste over top of existing vpinmame contents
allowing all overwrites

 

Then i run setup.exe and reinstall (register) it

 

and if you install the latest VPinMAME, you also need B2S Server 1.3.1.1 installed

 

I have zero idea why you get this crash with JP's table as the crash pertains to the color patched DMD
you are running and the driver crashing and taking down vpinmame in the process
But JP's table doesnt influence the DMD as it is a ROM operated table, so all that takes place with or without JP's help.

 

I looked at the table briefly, in the small area of script that pertains to vpinmame at all
they look identical, 3.x and 4.x versions

 

What is pin2color.dll anyways?

I have AFM and i have color DMD patch for it, and it comes out in color
i dont have any pin2color.dll though, not sure what that is for

Thank you very much for this info sir!  Can't imagine why the pin2color.dll doesn't like this table - looks to me like the changes JP made shouldn't affect it in this way. Must be something funky with the pin2color.dll...

 

It works for me. The nice thing about JP's A&RFM is it uses a different rom than the regular AFM so they coexist easily. No VPMAlias needed. The A&RFM uses afm_113 rom while afm uses afm_113b. So you need to make a folder under altcolor named afm_113 and copy the altcolor file(s) from your afm_113b folder to the new folder. Works a charm (thanks as always JP!)

 

WOW...worked like a charm for me too!  Probably the only thing I didn't think of trying. Thank you for sharing this, and JP for another awesome update!!

[wiesshund]

 

WOW...worked like a charm for me too!  Probably the only thing I didn't think of trying. Thank you for sharing this, and JP for another awesome update!!

 

 

 

Wow you mean instead of just saying Hmm no color here, guess i will just carry on as normal
pin2color just literally barfed and decided to take it's ball and go home?

 

That is strange but good to know.

 

Without pin2color, you can set up as colored, and then have no color patch, and all that happens is you get a generic
4 color display of anything but the colors you intended.

That seems worthy of reporting, if pin2color takes reports?
because it should just simply carry on rather than crash.

[Cliffy]

pin2color.dll is a plugin to freezy's dmddevice.dll which allows for the new single file .pac colorizations. you need the right freezy dll that is designed to work with the plugin. if you only have .pal/.vin colorizations then freezys will handle it as it always has. Freezys current dmddevice.dll is 1.10.3.0 and the latest pin2color.dll is 1.1.0.0

[wiesshund]

pin2color.dll is a plugin to freezy's dmddevice.dll which allows for the new single file .pac colorizations. you need the right freezy dll that is designed to work with the plugin. if you only have .pal/.vin colorizations then freezys will handle it as it always has. Freezys current dmddevice.dll is 1.10.3.0 and the latest pin2color.dll is 1.1.0.0

 

who is making this 10.3.0 version?
as it isnt on freezys github freezy/dmd-extensions: A toolbox for virtual pinball dot matrix displays. (github.com)

not in actions or commits

[Cliffy]

 

pin2color.dll is a plugin to freezy's dmddevice.dll which allows for the new single file .pac colorizations. you need the right freezy dll that is designed to work with the plugin. if you only have .pal/.vin colorizations then freezys will handle it as it always has. Freezys current dmddevice.dll is 1.10.3.0 and the latest pin2color.dll is 1.1.0.0

 

who is making this 10.3.0 version?
as it isnt on freezys github freezy/dmd-extensions: A toolbox for virtual pinball dot matrix displays. (github.com)

not in actions or commits

 

https://github.com/l...gration/pinmame

[wiesshund]

 

 

pin2color.dll is a plugin to freezy's dmddevice.dll which allows for the new single file .pac colorizations. you need the right freezy dll that is designed to work with the plugin. if you only have .pal/.vin colorizations then freezys will handle it as it always has. Freezys current dmddevice.dll is 1.10.3.0 and the latest pin2color.dll is 1.1.0.0

 

who is making this 10.3.0 version?
as it isnt on freezys github freezy/dmd-extensions: A toolbox for virtual pinball dot matrix displays. (github.com)

not in actions or commits

 

https://github.com/l...gration/pinmame

 

 

Shouldn't really be called Freezy's then, it misleading/confusing
Should be called Lucky1's DMD Extensions based on Freezy's

[Cliffy]

 

 

 

pin2color.dll is a plugin to freezy's dmddevice.dll which allows for the new single file .pac colorizations. you need the right freezy dll that is designed to work with the plugin. if you only have .pal/.vin colorizations then freezys will handle it as it always has. Freezys current dmddevice.dll is 1.10.3.0 and the latest pin2color.dll is 1.1.0.0

 

who is making this 10.3.0 version?
as it isnt on freezys github freezy/dmd-extensions: A toolbox for virtual pinball dot matrix displays. (github.com)

not in actions or commits

 

https://github.com/l...gration/pinmame

 

 

Shouldn't really be called Freezy's then, it misleading/confusing
Should be called Lucky1's DMD Extensions based on Freezy's

 

Ok

[wiesshund]

LOL not you Lucky, you didnt make it, you can only call it what they told you to call it, how are you supposed to know

[Cliffy]

Just so we are clear- no one has told me to say anything. I speak for no one but myself. We all benefit from their collaboration and, yes, I'm aware they worked together, had a falling out and now have some sort of tentative agreement. I really don't want to get dragged into any office intrigue and politics. There's far too much of that these days and pinball is a brief escape for me, real and virtual.

I will apologize here and now if I've touched a nerve with anyone. I only desire to help from the experiences I've had and things I've learned so stepping on toes is the very last thing I would want to do. I used to be a LOT more active when VPF first started and used to help with lots of tables since I had/have lots of games and playfields. When my job and business took all my time I had to back away. I found myself craving an escape and jumped back in, perhaps without having regard for changes here over the years. So, again, just tryin' to help and sorry if it pushed anyones buttons.

Back to makin' metal and packin' orders

[Pinballman]

Just so we are clear- no one has told me to say anything. I speak for no one but myself. We all benefit from their collaboration and, yes, I'm aware they worked together, had a falling out and now have some sort of tentative agreement. I really don't want to get dragged into any office intrigue and politics. There's far too much of that these days and pinball is a brief escape for me, real and virtual.

I will apologize here and now if I've touched a nerve with anyone. I only desire to help from the experiences I've had and things I've learned so stepping on toes is the very last thing I would want to do. I used to be a LOT more active when VPF first started and used to help with lots of tables since I had/have lots of games and playfields. When my job and business took all my time I had to back away. I found myself craving an escape and jumped back in, perhaps without having regard for changes here over the years. So, again, just tryin' to help and sorry if it pushed anyones buttons.

Back to makin' metal and packin' orders

Haven't come across anything you posted that should ruffle anyone's feathers IMO. All good sir.

[LoadedWeapon]

yea its so weird I have the same crashing issue and I have updated everything. Just this table all the rest are fine,

 

 

UPDATE: when i changed to the arcade rom it worked fine...

Edited by LoadedWeapon, 25 August 2022 - 12:17 AM.

[teisen]

Hello guys,

 

is the Revenge From Mars table not created yet? what hinders the creation would be the videos that are played during the game?

 

https://www.ipdb.org...ine.cgi?id=4446

 

would it be possible to create the table and the videos to run the Backglass?

 

hugs

Edited by teisen, 25 August 2022 - 12:38 PM.

[jpsalas]

 

Hello guys,

 

is the Revenge From Mars table not created yet? what hinders the creation would be the videos that are played during the game?

 

https://www.ipdb.org...ine.cgi?id=4446

 

would it be possible to create the table and the videos to run the Backglass?

 

hugs

 

 

Last time destruk tried to make it, he got a C&D from the Pinball 2000 team. He had taken screen shots of all the videos and sounds. So nobody tried to make it again after that.

[wiesshund]

 

 what hinders the creation would be the videos that are played during the game?

 

 

 

 

Nope, even i could play the videos on the playfield mostly correctly
What hinders it is getting a C&D notice from the lawyers of the P2K IP holder.

 

Those are no fun.
If IP owner says no, we dont do, and thus the story ends

 

[teisen]

it's a shame because despite the table itself being very similar to Attack From Mars, the videos are really fun... I had the opportunity to play in one of those machines and I found it very interesting, although I found the playfield to be very dark and not be possible to visualize very well the upper part of it.

 

do these rights ever expire? after all, it's been more than 20 years since the launch of this table!

[wiesshund]

 

 

 

do these rights ever expire? after all, it's been more than 20 years since the launch of this table!

 

Most likely, you be dead by then

[mrjcrane]

Discussion caused me to remember a fun FP game "Robots Invasion" (Simulates some of the same kind of table playfield animation effects like Revenge From Mars); just has different rule sets and game objectives. This one would be a fun port over to VP.

 

https://pinballnirva...-original.5632/

 

And for sure not smart to tangle with any legal stuff that may come from messing with Revenge from Mars.

Edited by mrjcrane, 26 August 2022 - 01:00 AM.

[Humanimal]

@ JP Salas >

 

Suggestions :

I miss the big ship's 3 tiny lights that show up which target is not hit yet.
Why not putting back these 3 lights and also the 3 tiny saucers decoration over the targets ?

 

I like the bumpers + ramp that are at the opposite site (left hand) compared to Attack from Mars (right hand).
However the lights for increasing the multiplier are hidden behind all of this stuff.

[jpsalas]

@ JP Salas >

 

Suggestions :

I miss the big ship's 3 tiny lights that show up which target is not hit yet.
Why not putting back these 3 lights and also the 3 tiny saucers decoration over the targets ?

 

I like the bumpers + ramp that are at the opposite site (left hand) compared to Attack from Mars (right hand).
However the lights for increasing the multiplier are hidden behind all of this stuff.

 

I'll see what I can do with those lights