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[hayhu1m]

OK, I'll edit this post as I go;

128x16 : Working - Star Wars 25th, 

 

128x32 : Working - Jurassic Park, 

128x32 : Issues : Star Wars stwr_107 - Scores blanking

 

192x64 : Working - Batman Forever 

I never had any problem stwr_107

 

Ignore that seems to be blanking on most roms when i tested 107 earlier played through 2 games without blanking but fired it up now blanked almost instantly

Edited by hayhu1m, 02 April 2020 - 11:33 AM.

[toxie]

Okay, so for now we have LW3, R&B and SW.

 

Will wait for more and recheck your edited post Sixtoed! Thanks!

[Sixtoed]

OK, finished testing as much as I'm going to with that lot, my testing methodology was to test with the new .dll, then drop back to the release .dll if I saw something different to compare to, if I saw anything weird I double checked it with video footage from youtube to make sure it wasn't supposed to be like that.

 

The same specific DMD (#520-5055-00) is used for LW3, SW, R&B, JP and LAH, and so far all of the games with issues have been from this selection. LAH seems to have no issues, and JP had the T-Rex switch issue, but nothing DMD related afaik. The crane seems to work fine in LAH too.

 

http://smiley.tzo.co...index1.htm#list

 

This shows the differences forwards and backwards between the boards, I'm not sure how both the power and flipper boards changing could make a difference, but that was done during Jurassic Parks production run...

Edited by Sixtoed, 02 April 2020 - 03:14 PM.

[toxie]

If i use the VP9 version of Jurassic Park, then the TRex works perfectly, so maybe this is some workaround in the VPX table due to the previously lagging switches??

Okay, so for now we have LW3, R&B and SW.

 

Will wait for more and recheck your edited post Sixtoed! Thanks!

 

Will start with specializing these 3 then (for now), and maybe i'll find some other good compromise for them to make them work better, and then prepare a new beta build.

 

 

Oh, and THANKS again. This was some perfect QA!

Edited by toxie, 02 April 2020 - 04:17 PM.

[Sixtoed]

NP, the T-Rex is definitely fixed though in the beta from this morning.

[kiwi]

 

I was in the middle of a multiball, and it changed to another mode for no reason, then it got messed up because there were too many balls in the game,
it's the first time something like this happens to me, I think it is due to the new beta VPM, but who knows.

@Baywatch
 

It happened again with the latest beta,
actually it was a couple of hours that I tried continuously, perhaps this also contributes to the onset of the problem.

 
A common factor of the problem is a ball sitting above switch 47,

this activates the launch of the "Upper Launch", to the right of the shark fin flipper.
I simply used a switch (47) and a plunger that throws the ball when the solenoid fires.

[Sixtoed]

I had something like this with the *live release version* (NOT the beta) in last action hero when it got to multiball with loads of balls at the top of the playfield and vpx crashed with a script error, might not be related but I thought I'd mention it as it has certain similarities.

[toxie]

New build is up which should now have all DMD timings 'correct', so the regressions for LW3, R&B and SW should be gone, and instead they should rather now also have much better timing overall for the first time in PinMAME history! 

 

 

Changes:

 

Improve DMD timings for the Sega 192x64 DMD, matching the real one more closely
Improve IRQ timings of Sys3/4/6/7/11, DE and the Sega 192x64 DMD-machines
Change switch writing of DE and Sega 192x64 DMD-machines

 

 

So the request now would be to test all Data East machines, all Sega 192x64 DMD machines, and all System 3/4/6/7/11 games. One can search for these generations via https://www.ipdb.org...chtype=advanced

[hayhu1m]

Morning toxie just tested LW3 and score still blanking out

[toxie]

Like, massively/forever? Could not trigger this..

[hayhu1m]

it happens halfway through a game display version pops up and score blanks whe you finish a game and start a new one score come back but then process repeats

[toxie]

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr..

[Thalamus]

Quick test of Williams 3/4/6/7/11 - one game of each system, didn't notice any issues.

[hayhu1m]

Checked different LW3 roms just incase i had a dodgy rom but all roms on this site do the same

 

Rocky & Bullwinkle display version still pops up during gameplay but think all triggers triggering

Edited by hayhu1m, 04 April 2020 - 11:27 AM.

[Thalamus]

https://www.dropbox....200304.zip?dl=0

 

Short videos for mentioned williams, star wars, lethal weapon3 and jurassic park. Please note - delete nvram if you've tried JP on the previous release. Dino is broken if you don't.

 

... added rab https://www.dropbox....ab_320.avi?dl=0

 

Need to shovel snow now - grrrr.

Edited by Thalamus, 04 April 2020 - 11:50 AM.

[hayhu1m]

https://www.dropbox....200304.zip?dl=0

 

Short videos for mentioned williams, star wars, lethal weapon3 and jurassic park. Please note - delete nvram if you've tried JP on the previous release. Dino is broken if you don't.

 

... added rab https://www.dropbox....ab_320.avi?dl=0

 

Need to shovel snow now - grrrr.

LW3 on your no score display at all

[toxie]

New build up in the first post, now with timing specializations for LW3, Aaron Spelling, R&B and SW.

I also used the measured DMD IRQ freqs for the DE, Sega and Whitestar/Stern 128x32 DMDs again.

 

In addition:

 

Clones:

 

Iron Man 1.85(+Vault Edition)
Striker Xtreme 1.00 (Italian)

 

 

 

Please give this one some good testing again for the mentioned machines (DE, Sega and Whitestar/Stern 128x32 DMDs (no SAMs though)).

[hayhu1m]

Hi toxie LW3 still blanks score played through 3 games before it did then on fourth game it blanked halfway through.

 

Rocky & Bullwinkle seems to be working correctly played a good 20 minutes couldnt see any problems.

 

StarWars Seems to be good too.

Edited by hayhu1m, 05 April 2020 - 10:18 AM.

[Sheltemke]

Hi toxie LW3 still blanks score played through 3 games before it did then on fourth game it blanked halfway through.

 

Rocky & Bullwinkle seems to be working correctly played a good 20 minutes couldnt see any problems.

 

StarWars Seems to be good too.

Which rom you use for LW3? I testing the tables too and looks good for me, even LW3.

Tested LW3 and Star Wars.

I use lw3_208 rom. Still no errors no "blank" things.

[hayhu1m]

lw3_208 rom too 

 

I think i've sorted it i deleted all vpinmane dll's so it wasn't just over writing files, Deleted LW3 nvram and registry entries copied over new beta vpinmane from zip file installed via setup.exe and then restarted pc.

 

played a good 30mins seems no problems but will report if found

Edited by hayhu1m, 05 April 2020 - 11:12 AM.