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[Mike DA Spike]

Someone else getting shrinked Tables (not adjustable) with kinect in GL Version?
Settings in BAM are fine, so the Tables in FP playing great in 3D...

I tested with latest BAM-tracker and rev 1138 (beta version)

Within the GL, I'm not able to get the menu (When setting to VR i am available).

When using the DX9 version, I'm able to get to the menu :

 

I needed to click the checkbox 'swap width/height' (and maybe adjust the y- scale a bit as it uses the orignal size of the cabinet)

[Slydog43]

Why is the new ini thing stored under the %AppData%/VPinballX/, why not the install dir of Visual Pinball.  I love the idea of having all the settings in an ini file.  Can we have it stored in the vpinball location and if not then in the %AppData%/VPinballX/ dir?

 

I run a lot of emulators and the way they do it is if you want a portable install, just put the ini files under a settings dir under the emulator, that way you can create a total portable install.  I think this would be great for VPX.

 

where is the latest CommandLineParameters.txt file?  Latest builds don't seem to have it.  I want to read up on passing this ini file when running VPX.

Edited by Slydog43, 23 May 2023 - 10:26 AM.

[Mike DA Spike]

Here's the command line param filehttps://github.com/v...eParameters.txt

With -ini you can use the ini file from any directory

[vothar]

 

Can we use the BAM in this version with a kinect v1 (the xbox one) ? (i ask before doing any installation that can harm my vpin system)   . I mainly use my kinect for 3d scan but this would be a good new use for it...

I didn't have the latest BAM, just downloaded it

It has (and think had in the past had well) already support for Kinect v1

 

 

Edit : Isn't Kinect for Xbox one the Kinect v2 ? (the one I selected ?)

 

yep... Kinect for Xbox one is the Kinect v2, Mine is kinect for xbox 360 (so V1 )

[Drybonz]

Since we are talking .ini files, I had asked previously about the naming for per game .ini files and what directory they go in... if anybody knows about this, I appreciate the help.

[Mike DA Spike]

Since we are talking .ini files, I had asked previously about the naming for per game .ini files and what directory they go in... if anybody knows about this, I appreciate the help.

Os that possible ? Or should you use the -ini per table

 

Can we use the BAM in this version with a kinect v1 (the xbox one) ? (i ask before doing any installation that can harm my vpin system)   . I mainly use my kinect for 3d scan but this would be a good new use for it...

I didn't have the latest BAM, just downloaded it
It has (and think had in the past had well) already support for Kinect v1
 

 
Edit : Isn't Kinect for Xbox one the Kinect v2 ? (the one I selected ?)
 

yep... Kinect for Xbox one is the Kinect v2, Mine is kinect for xbox 360 (so V1 )

Thats the one I unchecked, but gave it a red circle. So both the kinects has bam tracking support, right?

[Drybonz]

 Thats the one I unchecked, but gave it a red circle. So both the kinects has bam tracking support, right?

 

I don't even know what BAM is, or use it... I'm trying to find out how the per-game/per-table .ini files would be named and stored so that tables could be launched with custom settings... for instance, starting a PuP table without exclusive fullscreen... or any number of possibilities for custom launching.

[Gravy]

Since we are talking .ini files, I had asked previously about the naming for per game .ini files and what directory they go in... if anybody knows about this, I appreciate the help.

I haven't heard anything about whether 10.8 will automatically start with an .ini file based on the game name (where did you read that?). 

However, I discussed a way to create a shortcut with a custom ini in this thread which may lead you in the right direction at least https://www.vpforums...=51401&p=518927

[Drybonz]

 

Since we are talking .ini files, I had asked previously about the naming for per game .ini files and what directory they go in... if anybody knows about this, I appreciate the help.

I haven't heard anything about whether 10.8 will automatically start with an .ini file based on the game name (where did you read that?). 

 

I'm just assuming it would... I don't know any other reason they would have switched to the .ini system for settings with 10.8 (although there probably is one).  Every other app I know (Retroarch, for example) that uses .ini's will allow you to do this.  It seems like it would be the main benefit of using them.  To be clear, I'm not trying to automatically start the game, I'm trying to have individual custom settings, like I described above, per game.

Edited by Drybonz, 24 May 2023 - 01:18 AM.

[Gravy]

 

 

Since we are talking .ini files, I had asked previously about the naming for per game .ini files and what directory they go in... if anybody knows about this, I appreciate the help.

I haven't heard anything about whether 10.8 will automatically start with an .ini file based on the game name (where did you read that?). 

 

I'm just assuming it would... I don't know any other reason they would have switched to the .ini system for settings with 10.8 (although there probably is one).  Every other app I know (Retroarch, for example) that uses .ini's will allow you to do this.  It seems like it would be the main benefit of using them.  To be clear, I'm not trying to automatically start the game, I'm trying to have individual custom settings, like I described above, per game.

 

In theory using the method I linked to above, you could have an individual .ini file for every game or a selection of games and have the engine start up the game via command line with the relevant custom .ini, however if I understand correctly, the .ini file is used to customise the game engine/editor settings so any further games you attempted to play in that session would inherit those same settings until you closed the engine.

If you wanted to run some games in windowed mode you could also probably just make one .ini file called windowed.ini and call it from the command line for any games you want to play in that mode, then add the command line attributes to your launcher if you use one (I don't use a launcher so I'm not too familiar with that).

The .pov files can also hold quite a lot of settings for individual games but not to the extent that you are asking for as far as I'm aware (I don't think it supports any settings in the editor's "Video/Graphics Options" settings.)

What you are asking for is a good idea though. For instance on lower powered PCs it would be good to be able to launch resource intensive tables in a lower resolution mode without having to manually change it each time you play.

[Drybonz]

What you are asking for is a good idea though. For instance on lower powered PCs it would be good to be able to launch resource intensive tables in a lower resolution mode without having to manually change it each time you play.

Yeah... I had assumed that was the whole idea behind them switching to the .ini system as it would be one of the main benefits... custom, per-table settings.

[hitman2304]

This happens if i update from 10.7.3 to 10.7.4 or 10.8. Looks like ball physics is messed up.

 

[jarr3]

What you are asking for is a good idea though. For instance on lower powered PCs it would be good to be able to launch resource intensive tables in a lower resolution mode without having to manually change it each time you play.

Yeah... I had assumed that was the whole idea behind them switching to the .ini system as it would be one of the main benefits... custom, per-table settings.

The main idea was to make VPX not only for windows. On mac, Linux and Android there is no registry.

I assume you can add a feature request on github to add this in the future. It might not have the highest priority, cause I see it could be solved outside of VPX core using a little windows scripting.


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[jpsalas]

This happens if i update from 10.7.3 to 10.7.4 or 10.8. Looks like ball physics is messed up.

 

 

That seems to me you have an analog device connected, like a joystick, which is not calibrated in the new versions. First try playing with it disconnected. If it works better then connect it again and check the Dead Zone in the Configure keys, nudge and DOF. If it is 0 try increasing the value. But if you have nothing connected then try other tables, and see if all of them behave the same. 

[Drybonz]

 The main idea was to make VPX not only for windows. On mac, Linux and Android there is no registry.

 

Ah... that makes perfect sense... thanks.

[hitman2304]

 

This happens if i update from 10.7.3 to 10.7.4 or 10.8. Looks like ball physics is messed up.

 

 

That seems to me you have an analog device connected, like a joystick, which is not calibrated in the new versions. First try playing with it disconnected. If it works better then connect it again and check the Dead Zone in the Configure keys, nudge and DOF. If it is 0 try increasing the value. But if you have nothing connected then try other tables, and see if all of them behave the same. 

 

That was the problem, i play with Xbox 360 controller, for now i set deadzone on 10% and is much better, later will experiment with different settings.

[jpsalas]

 

 

 

 

That seems to me you have an analog device connected, like a joystick, which is not calibrated in the new versions. First try playing with it disconnected. If it works better then connect it again and check the Dead Zone in the Configure keys, nudge and DOF. If it is 0 try increasing the value. But if you have nothing connected then try other tables, and see if all of them behave the same. 

 

That was the problem, i play with Xbox 360 controller, for now i set deadzone on 10% and is much better, later will experiment with different settings.

 

 

Good

[hitman2304]

Just played with lights settings in POV and it seems the Enviromental Emission and Light Emission Scale not working. I have changed this settings and i see no effect.

[vbousquet]

So, one week and 50 commits later, we have a new beta. You can download the latest here https://github.com/v....0-1189-a038732

As far as I know, it fixes all the bugs that have been reported here (and mores). A release is slowly getting closer.

Edited by vbousquet, 26 May 2023 - 09:36 PM.

[Gravy]

Beta 2 feedback

Just tried playing Tales from the Crypt - VPW v1.22 and getting a runtime error 

 

Line: 1399

Subscript out of range: 'cor.ballvel'


Relates to this section of code:

	public sub Dampen(aBall)
		if threshold then if BallSpeed(aBall) < threshold then exit sub end if end if
		dim RealCOR, DesiredCOR, str, coef
		DesiredCor = LinearEnvelope(cor.ballvel(aBall.id), ModIn, ModOut )
		if cor.ballvel(aBall.id) = 0 then
			RealCOR = BallSpeed(aBall) / (cor.ballvel(aBall.id) + 0.001) 'hack
		Else
			RealCOR = BallSpeed(aBall) / cor.ballvel(aBall.id)
		end If
		coef = desiredcor / realcor 
		if debugOn then str = name & " in vel:" & round(cor.ballvel(aBall.id),2 ) & vbnewline & "desired cor: " & round(desiredcor,4) & vbnewline & _
		"actual cor: " & round(realCOR,4) & vbnewline & "ballspeed coef: " & round(coef, 3) & vbnewline 
		if Print then debug.print Round(cor.ballvel(aBall.id),2) & ", " & round(desiredcor,3)
		
		aBall.velx = aBall.velx * coef : aBall.vely = aBall.vely * coef
		if debugOn then TBPout.text = str
	End Sub

Edited by Gravy, 27 May 2023 - 12:05 AM.