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[Joe]

I just got a new Dell Inspiron 1100 netbook/laptop with Windows 7 Home Premium Edition and am having problems with Visual Pinball and Future Pinball.

I can get non-ROM original games to launch, but the issue is I can not use the key board to add credits to start the game.
I am having the same problem with both VP and FP.

And I am still having issues getting ROM games to work at all.

Ugh

run vp as admin.

[Pagan Pinball]

Hmm..

yeah I have similar issues with vp9.

Win7 64bit Premium and ATI 5850 card.

JP's stuff runs fine with HD Render checked. Looks good.

With it unchecked, it is painfully slow. However, my own tables the graphics don't render with HD ticked and unticked it's horribly slow. What's the secret to making them render? Apparently JP has that solved.
EDIT: Okay, everything renders on my vp9 of pagan 2 ticking HD EXCEPT the table playfield graphic and the background image. How do I make those render? Everything else seems to be fine.

VP8 works like a treat.

[destruk]

You could try using a playfield and background image of res 1024x1024 - see if that helps?

[hellion439]

I'm having a Slightly different problem than others are having I have a ASUS laptop with windows 7 64bit professional sli 8700gt's 1gb ddr3 4 gd ddr2 and a intel core 2 dual extreme 9000 chip so speed and processing power isn't the issue here BUT since my display runs natively at 1920x1200(high definition) I'm having a huge problem reading whats on the board no matter what my resolution ie what the text is over the lights etc could anyone give me some insight or help?

Edited by hellion439, 04 February 2010 - 06:11 PM.

[Pagan Pinball]

thanks Brian.. that seems to do the trick. Now maybe I can get some stuff updated to run in vp9

[Badfinger]

Any clear solutions for VP 9 with Windows 7?

I have 64bit Home Premium 7 and a 5850 video card, SOME tables run fine in VP9, some don't, and VP8 and FP (with 10.3 catalyst) are both dandy.

Seawitch Special Edition is an example of one that runs perfect.

LOTR (any) is one that runs very very poorly.

By poorly, this: the tables run in slow motion (2 sec lag) or TOO fast; skipped frames of the ball, just warps around the table.

That is very strange!

I am using VP9 as admin and in XP SP3 compatibility mode.

SO does one version of 9.x seem to run better than others? I am using 9.0.7 the latest.

Edited by Badfinger, 30 June 2010 - 06:32 PM.

[FDSystems]

I posred that in another topic but I thought it might help here too:
Some tricks I use on my laptop, Windows 7 ATI 1200 Series

Disable UAC
Disable AERO
Disable antivirus

VPMan:Default launching options:
Disable: Check blitz status, draw ball shadows, draw ball decals

Set launching options, individually for each table:
Try to check/uncheck Disable Direct Draw, combining with the following settings on the editor:

VP9:
Uncheck Render shadows
CHECK REORDER ! (Thanks Noah, it has helped a lot here!)
Check/uncheck Hardware Rendering

I have yet to understand why certain settings work with one table & don´t with another one apparently similar

Hope this helped.

[Joe]

Don't Disable antivirus

[FDSystems]

Don´t forget to re-enable when you finish playing!

[pinball buzz]

Just ran an install of vp9 under windows 7, and had a couple of issues with w7 and also norton anti virus 2010
Norton will delete vp 9.08 as it sees it as a threat.
To solve this go to norton settings menu, exclusions, scan exclusions, click on configure, add, and browse to your pinball folder and apply. Do the same for Signature exclusions.

Also had to apply the following that Scapino kindly posted,

One thing I have found is there are a few things you want to do to get VP running smooth.

Mainly this is for the VPMame end of things.

When you unzip the whole VPMame folder tree to your drive, the first thing you should do before running the setup.exe to register the .dll, is to right click on the setup.exe, and press the "unblock" button on the preferences dialog. Also is a good idea to edit the permissions in the security tab, so that your user has full access to the file.

You should also do this for the "VPinMAME.dll".

Then run the setup.exe.

I did this in stages as an experiment, and before I registered and had set the .dll permissions, my CV table would run stuttery, with an anoying double looping of the rom sounds.
After I fiddled with the permissions, and re-ran setup.exe, to re-install the .dll, CV ran smothly and cleanly from then on out.

Kurt

Without the unblock button being checked vp would not run.

Now time to play some tables.

Hope this helps people,

Pinball Buzz

[rob046]

I say it all the time, but I have Windows 7 64bit, & I swear its the best running OS I ever had, for both old & new games, & just in general. I thought having 64bit might cripple some older software, but it hasn't, far from it.

I play A LOT of old games/apps. Much of the stuff I've been playing lately pre-XP stuff. & its amazing that these things are running more flawlessly now then they did in XP! Hell I got some that wouldn't run at all on XP that runs fine now.
I've never even had to use compatibility mode on any exe.
Yet all my hardware is the latest & greatest, so I have the horsepower to run the most modern games with tons of eye candy & no problem.
FP & VP have been just fine for me. No hacks needed or anything like that. Plug & play!
Here I am with the newest windows OS, 64bit, & an ATI graphics card (5870), & I really couldn't be happier. Even I'm a bit surprised.

So why are some people having issues like this?
Well, a common thing seems to be people having heavy antivirus like Norton or Mcaffee. I've despised Norton for years now. I work on computers as a side job & I can't tell you how many of them get chewed up by Norton apps, limewire, etc. Just nasty stuff that can will bring your OS to a crawl unless you know how to handle these things & keep things maintained.
Norton sinks its teeth into every part of your hard drive. Its everywhere!

& hearing its detecting VP as a virus, just confirms my reasons why I refuse to use it.

For the past 4 years or so, THERE IS ONLY 1 A/V I WILL PUT ON MY COMPUTERS. ESET, their A/V is light & fluffy & it works great, that would be NOD32.
For just a few bucks more you can get ESET Smart Security. Its NOD32 but also with a great firewall & Spyware protection. This allows you to ditch windows firewall and windows defender. I have those services completely shut down.
The best thing is that despite Smart Security being more of a suite with 3 functions, it still runs nearly as light & harmless as NOD32 does.
Best of all, its cheap. I forget what I paid for a few 2 year licenses, but for what you get it was dirt cheap, much cheaper than Norton.

I can't begin to tell you how many computers that I've put the A/V or eset suite on (along with usually an OS reinstall to completely rid the pc of norton/mcafee traces) that have had nothing but success. These people that came to me blaming windows for their problem quickly change their tune as months pass with zero problems.
I still have to remind people that having the eset suite shouldn't make them feel like they can do anything, people are still idiots installing limewire, self installing viruses & spyware cuz they aren't careful about what they are clicking or going to porn sites just riddled with crapware, even itunes has been pissing me off off lately, doing some unsavory things.

But on my computers & in my family, as long as people use common sense, eset takes care of the rest. & even when I do hit a site where I go "uh oh, this doesn't look good", eset, as if on cue, pops up saying it has caught & quarantined something nasty, so I don't need to worry. I hardly even need to run A/V scans anymore cuz eset catches everything in real time. So when I go to run a scan, it rarely finds anything.

I know I sound like a commercial for these guys, but its no joke. They have made computing so much easier for me & all the clients who's computers I've worked on who let me make the switch for them from norton/mcaffe/whatever, to Smart Security (or nod32 if they are too cheap to pay like $5 more for Smart Security). & I saved a lot of money by going with them, & on top of the great protection its great for gaming & stuff cuz its such a light software. I disabled Smart Security for gaming a few times, just out of curiousity, & it literally makes zero difference in performance, so its obviously on at all times for me.
Company name is ESET, google it!
& if you have had norton for a while & its not too big of a deal to reinstall your OS before switching to ESET, then definitely do it.

Edited by rob046, 19 July 2010 - 07:07 PM.

[pinball buzz]

Nice post Rob, getting a netbook soon, windows 7 , will try the NOD32,

Cheers Buzz

[Practicedummy]

I know what you mean rob! I have purchased some win 98/xp games a while back and they work on Win 7 without a problem. Win 7 has been fantastic for me with just a few minor issues which are not even close to serious. I only had one crash with it and that was when I used the F5 key to play a table on VP 9.

Edited by Practicedummy, 19 July 2010 - 07:19 PM.

[Badfinger]

I use Avast! Internet Security (suite), boostspeed, spyboy: search and destroy, winpatrol, task catcher, malware bytes' anti-malware, spywareblaster, for that stuff.

Concerning VP9 never solved the strangeness with Win7, gave up, hoping Black comes to the rescue, eventually.

[TheMcD]

I honestly doubt that Black of all people would come to the rescue of VP. I mean, seriously.

The McD

[fawdown]

VP 9 is not compatable with win 7. I have to conclude that after difficulties with 3 computers with completely different specs. I tried solutions here, and compatability fixes. There are graphical glitches, and lag spikes making it unplayable. It simply doesn't work. Like firefox, flash, and java, every once in a while we get a bad version. This is it. Next time it will probably be better.

I'll just have to wait for the next version like the rest...

It's been a year since I have had my pinmame fix.

The funny thing is that version 8 does not work very well either.

Everything else I have from DOS to XP games work perfectly.

Edited by fawdown, 09 September 2010 - 08:22 AM.

[TheMcD]

I have to disagree. I've gotten VP9 to run under Win7 without problems. It involved installing the XP drivers for my graphics card under Win7, but it worked just dandy in software rendering mode. And I'm running a bloody laptop.

The McD

[fawdown]

I have to disagree. I've gotten VP9 to run under Win7 without problems. It involved installing the XP drivers for my graphics card under Win7, but it worked just dandy in software rendering mode. And I'm running a bloody laptop.

The McD

But doesn't that make it so other programs don't work?

My problem is with both vpin 8 and 9.

[vic viper]

I have Windows 7 on my laptop and VP9 and FP both run fine on it.

My problem is w/ VP9 is that the right flipper default button is right shift. But for some odd reason the right shift button doesn't work but it works in FP. I don't know if this is an issue w/ Windows 7 or is it a laptop issue. But its no problem because I can always reconfigured the button.

So to sum it all up, I haven't really had any issues while running VP9 and FP in the Windows 7 enviroment.

Edited by vic viper, 09 September 2010 - 02:52 PM.

[daveb316]

I used to have a problem with running VP in Windows 7 64-bit. It was strange, some tables ran perfectly. Even better then they did in XP. And other tables were terrible. I wound up reinstalling VP using the setup program and installing it to C:\Games. I also had to run VP as an Administrator. Since then the only problem I had was with Nvidia latest video drivers. But I fixed that by configuring the nvidia software to run VP with "Antialiasing Mode - Off".

Before I just backed up the VP folder and restored it. I read someone on this forum about how the "Program Files" may have some special security permissions. So I moved the folder to C:\Games. I still had a problem. So I deleted the VP folder from C:\games and then reinstalled it using the installation program. And that seemed to get it working for me.

I never had to disable any anitvirus or security software to get VP running.


Hope this helps,

Dave