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[Kaizen088]

I have a quick question. I am starting a build based on a data east lockdown bar.

 

• Does anyone know if a Data East Cabinet is the same size as a Williams narrow body (standard) Cabinet?


• Or even better does anyone have any metric plans for a Data East Cab?

 

I have the plans for a Wide body Cab just trying to work out what size for the Data East.

 

Kind Regards

James

I went with Standard Body as I wanted to do a replica Defender, I bought a gutted Williams Flash cabinet to use as a template for building a cab from scratch.

Standard Williams Cab dimensions below as measured from the Williams Flash. The backbox height is not correct as I customised it to suit my monitor.

 

 

[fiatbravodriver]

Thank you for posting this Its going to be a great help. I could not find the answer anywhere. There are no plans online for a data east cab. I have noted your point about the back box. 

[gtxjoe]

Can't help on Data East cab, but if you want the Williams standard plans, do a google search for "williams standard pinball cabinet dimensions"

[wrd1972]

 

I have a quick question. I am starting a build based on a data east lockdown bar.

 

• Does anyone know if a Data East Cabinet is the same size as a Williams narrow body (standard) Cabinet?
• 
  
• Or even better does anyone have any metric plans for a Data East Cab?
• 
  

 

I have the plans for a Wide body Cab just trying to work out what size for the Data East.

 

Kind Regards

James

I went with Standard Body as I wanted to do a replica Defender, I bought a gutted Williams Flash cabinet to use as a template for building a cab from scratch.

Standard Williams Cab dimensions below as measured from the Williams Flash. The backbox height is not correct as I customised it to suit my monitor.

 

 

 

Kaizan,

I really like your back box. Whats size monitor are you using? And what is the width and height of your backbox.

Thanks

[jimmay3]

Ended up with a 43/32/15 setup in a Widebody, very happy...

 

Looks very authentic with the integration of an actual Williams WPC speaker grill.

 

A must is a Smart TV for the backglass and I noticed the Samsung's are much better quality picture and options.  I like that I can use the TWC app to watch cable tv without the cable or stb box.  This is a great smart tv that allows you to watch tv, listen to Tunein music or anything while you are working on your system or even if a game is on with picture in a picture feature, a must to have a smart tv for your backglass monitor...  Also the smallest width 32" I seen to date...  Also the weight of each of these is great, much less than anything else on the market...  Both Samsung models also support the Power on feature when power is applied with a smart power strip, so no need to rig up anything to trigger the power buttons on both or use remotes.

 

Samsung - 32" Class
LED - 1080p - Smart
UN32J5500AFXZA
HT 16.7"
Depth 2.6"
Width 28.4"
Weight 10.4 lbs
$279.99

 

Didn't really want a Smart main screen, but couldn't find a Samsung 43" without it now a days.  My main screen I went with the below, no extra hacking up the cabinet to get it to fit, this gives me about 0.2" on each side of my widebody and a little room left in the back to add some led light later...  Also very thin on the side where the plunger is, so I can put the screen right up to the lock down bar.

 

Samsung - 43" Class
LED - 1080p - Smart
UN43J5200AFXZA
HT 22.3"
Width 38.8"
Depth 2.3"
Weight 16.5 lbs
$378.99

 

Poor man's DMD, works great with a cheap VGA card (NVIDA 8400 in 1920x1080@60Hz) running next to my NVIDA 750Ti with dual outputs to run the above screens.  This option will get me by till I can save up for the real deal...  The nice thing is I was able to mount it right to the WPC speaker grill, nice removable sub-assembly.

 

Coby - 15"

Ebay $25

Edited by jimmay3, 04 January 2017 - 02:12 PM.

[Jbrenier]

Jimmay3 do you have any pics of your cab or the build process? I am in the beginning stages of my build and the Samsung 32" and Samsung 43" is what I have purchased for my build. Looks like the only difference in our builds is I have an old 17" lcd I'm going to use for my dmd. Seeing some of your cabs pics would help me answer a lot of the questions I am having about my build.

[jimmay3]

Neophyte,

 

I'm a little behind on pics, but here's a few to start...  I did start with a Vizio Back Glass screen that I returned for the above listed Samsung which is a great monitor, so these pics show the smaller mount width.  This easy mount system makes it easy to install the screen too, I put the backbox upside down and put screen in the slot and snug mounting bolts down and that's it, it gives a snug fit to the top and is easily centered left to right with a small gap on each side that is hidden by the glass with a plastic cap over it.  I'll keep adding more to the album as I shoot them...

 

Album: My Build - Williams Wide Body

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http://www.vpforums....llery&album=318

[Jbrenier]

Jimmay3,

 

Thanks I appreciate it. I've been racking my brain over this build for a couple months now. I think I have everything I need for the build (monitors, buttons, pc, all the hardware, and I just ordered Zeb's standard kit). Just want to make sure I am not going to have any oh crap moments during my build but I'm sure I'll have those anyways. I just want them to be minor ones. I'll keep following your album as you add pics to it. I think my major concern has been with the 43" tv and making sure it looks good in the widebody build. I hate they quit making the 46" TV's. Everybody's build I have watched closely seem to use the 46" t.v.

[jimmay3]

Jimmay3,

 

Thanks I appreciate it. I've been racking my brain over this build for a couple months now. I think I have everything I need for the build (monitors, buttons, pc, all the hardware, and I just ordered Zeb's standard kit). Just want to make sure I am not going to have any oh crap moments during my build but I'm sure I'll have those anyways. I just want them to be minor ones. I'll keep following your album as you add pics to it. I think my major concern has been with the 43" tv and making sure it looks good in the widebody build. I hate they quit making the 46" TV's. Everybody's build I have watched closely seem to use the 46" t.v.

 

I think I like the 43" better, no destroying the cabinet to get it to fit and the Samsung leaves about 1/4" on each side without a de-caseing job and loss of warranty.  I used a very similar rail mount system as the backglass setup, but has studs facing up to allow me to drop TV in and ny-lock it in place (to be honest, it really don't need to be bolted in on the studs unless you plan on transporting it, pretty snug).  Just going to add some thin plastic stripping on each side of the TV to fill the back.  The backglass I was able to fill the gap in between the TV and grill with vinyl on the inside of the glass, looks very clean from outside.  On the main screen I  have the front about 1/8" of TV bezel covered by lock bar and the back has about 4 inches to add a nice strobe module/block setup.  The 46's look a little unrealistic, like oversized playfields or something.  I tested my main screen setup by stacking books under it to get some ruff numbers, then mounted the rails with adjustable slots to allow a little adjustment.  I'll try and get some picks of the main cab setup and the final backbox setup with the Samsung mounted, good luck...

 

After I look back at all the planning, I bet there is only about 8 hours of true work, about another 100 of planing, redoing and guessing on what to do...

Edited by jimmay3, 23 January 2017 - 07:31 AM.

[Jbrenier]

Jimmay3,

 

Nice build! Where did you get those mounting brackets for the 32" and 43" t.v.'s? Keep posting pics as you update please. Once again nice work.

[blackvulcan3]

I built a widebody using a 43 inch monitor playfield. It is real Superpin (widebody) external dimensions (I used 15mm ply instead of 3/4 inch). I would dismiss the thoughts of it's harder for kids to play on a widebody. My 2, 5 & 7 year old girls all love playing on my cab & play often. They use a step up stool and it's fine.


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[jimmay3]

The brackets are homemade from some light steel that already had a 90 deg bend, it was a divider for a storage drawer. Just trimmed it down to some 1x1 angle stock.

I agree, I bounce between the Widebody and 3 other regular pins and really don't notice a difference at all in the feel. The kids have never mentioned it either, I don't think they even know what a Widebody is.

[toxie]

I did a custom size build, so that my TV fitted perfectly inside (and while not having to remove the (thin) casing of it, too).

[Slydog43]

I want to see pics of one of the main authors of VP.  I hope it kicks butt.

[toxie]

To be honest, it looks pretty unfinished still. Back in the days when i did the Stereo3D implementation, i started building two similar cabinets, one for my father, one for me.

The one from my father looks okayish, mine looks still a bit more rough (e.g. no decals, no nice backbox housing). And as both are pretty old, they miss all the fancy "new" stuff like topper, DOF, etcetc.

So it's very plain, no plunger, just buttons, a sidewinder as motion sensor, but at least 4.1 sound output! And the only cool part is that there are basically no edges of the screen, so one has 99% of the playfield "glass" directly as the screen.

[phlove]

Hello guys , if I take the the wiliams std body cabinet , what size is the playfield tv than ?

 

40"  or 43"

 

 

regards

[BoltBait]

Hello guys , if I take the the wiliams std body cabinet , what size is the playfield tv than ?

 

40"  or 43"

 

It depends on several factors:

 

1) Are you going to "decase" the monitor?  If so, you can go a little larger.  If not, probably 39" would be good.

 

2) What brand/model of monitor are you looking at?  Different monitors have different sized bezels, etc.  You just need to get out a tape measure and take it to your local TV store.

 

My pinball cabinet has a 42" monitor in it--I did not decase it. I built a custom cabinet as the monitor was too big to fit in a standard sized cabinet.

Edited by BoltBait, 20 December 2018 - 12:44 AM.

[gtxjoe]

I have a 39" in std cab.  Yep, 43" won't fit.  Some 40" will fit but requires routing 1/4" on both sides of the cabinet

[BorgDog]

I put a 42" (41.5" actual) in a standard cab with about 5/8" groove routed out in both sides, not for the faint of heart. The screen is parallel to the glass down about 1", so the metal side rails totally overlap and reinforce the whole piece. TV slides in from the back of the cab, not the easiest to get in and out but I like the look.

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[Brer Frog]

Thought I saw a standard size build somewhere, but the sides were 1/2" plywood instead of the typical 3/4". This increased the inside width by 1/2" and provided a bit more room for a monitor.