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[fuzzel]

rev3674 is up:

 

- flag table as changed if import->POV is triggered

- clarify some material manager dialog descriptions and beautify debug dialogs a tiny bit

- add ball velocity/angular velocity and number of physics iterations per frame to F11 debug output/stats

- fix order of deletion for sounds and fonts (i.e. first delete the list entry, then the actual element)

- fix access of already deleted vector element (i.e. the image/texture that was deleted was still updated by the list). also fix that when deleting the last image in the list, the new last image got the alpha test value of the previous last image.

- fix crash if POV xml format is broken somehow.

[jpsalas]

I find the two latest versions quite stable while playing and when using the editor. The only crashes I have is almost when I quit a table, or when I have two tables loaded and I quit one of them, then VPX crashes and closes down.

 

This is a crash when quiting one table. This is the most common crash I have. I use to quit the editor by clicking the X at the upper right corner.

 

Crash report VPX rev3674
============
Process: VPinballX.exe
Reason: 0xC0000005 - EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION at 0023:77751E0B
Attempt to write to 0x00000014
Thread ID: 0x177C [6012]

Call stack
==========
77751E0B ntdll.dll LdrRemoveLoadAsDataTable + 0x61B (0x08B36540 0x02E64170 0x0019CE4C 0x0978ca5c)
7774FF16 ntdll.dll RtlEnterCriticalSection + 0x126 (0x0019CE40 0x0019CE40 0x004F90D7 0x08b365b8)
7774FE39 ntdll.dll RtlEnterCriticalSection + 0x49 (0x08B365B8 0x02E27360 0x74DE6D20 0x00000070)
004F90D7 VPinballX.exe (0x74DF5A69 0x00008001 0x0052AFEB 0x0014062a)
0052AFEB VPinballX.exe (0x00000001 0x0014062A 0x00000002 0x007503f6)

Environment
===========
Date/time: 14/4/2019, 19:39:36:865
Number of CPUs: 8
Processor type: 586
System: Windows 10 (10.0 17763)

Memory status
=============
Total Reserved: 78736K (76M) bytes
Total Commited: 461772K (450M) bytes
Total Free: 3653732K (3568M) bytes
Largest Free: 2095476K (2046M) bytes

Registers
=========
EAX=00000000 EBX=FFFFFF00 ECX=08B365C8 EDX=FFFFFFFF
ESI=08B365B8 EDI=FFFFFFFF EBP=00000000 ESP=0019CFB0 EIP=0052C2EE
FLG=00010213 CS=0023 DS=002B SS=002B ES=002B FS=0053 GS=002B


Mini dump saved successfully.

Edited by jpsalas, 14 April 2019 - 05:48 PM.

[toxie]

Question to the authors: One or two years ago, somebody said that there was also an issue with the material manager when deleting an entry. Meaning, that the next material got some of the values assigned from that deleted material (similar to what i fixed now in the image manager). Is that still true? (cause i could not repro this)

[fuzzel]

That should be fixed. I committed a fix for that long time ago

[jpsalas]

I have not had that issue with the materials in a long time.The only thing I have noticed in the material management is that if you delete all the materials, then you cannot import new from a file until you add 1 material. But it is a small thing, that's why I have not reported it before

[bord]

I'm going to pile on top of my request for a global override of Screenspace scale.

 

Would it also be possible to set the Screenspace value for individual elements? There are a few things dealing with transparent textures that do not play well with Screenspace and it would be nice to keep Screenspace on but eliminate its effect on specific elements.

[toxie]

That should be fixed. I committed a fix for that long time ago

 

Okay, thanks.. As you guys may have noticed, i'm currently freeing my giant todo list of low hanging fruit/fixes.. 

I have not had that issue with the materials in a long time.The only thing I have noticed in the material management is that if you delete all the materials, then you cannot import new from a file until you add 1 material. But it is a small thing, that's why I have not reported it before

 

Hmm.. This i cannot repro.. I deleted all materials, then imported a material, and that worked..

Would it also be possible to set the Screenspace value for individual elements? There are a few things dealing with transparent textures that do not play well with Screenspace and it would be nice to keep Screenspace on but eliminate its effect on specific elements.

 

Unfortunately not (as its too complicated with the current rendering architecture of mixed static and dynamic object rendering :/).

One idea was to have a global mask, but then one would not be able to change the camera anymore.  :/

[bord]

 

Would it also be possible to set the Screenspace value for individual elements? There are a few things dealing with transparent textures that do not play well with Screenspace and it would be nice to keep Screenspace on but eliminate its effect on specific elements.

 

Unfortunately not (as its too complicated with the current rendering architecture of mixed static and dynamic object rendering :/).

One idea was to have a global mask, but then one would not be able to change the camera anymore.  :/

 

 

Makes sense. Is it possible to set a global override scale value for Screenspace in video settings?

[wrd1972]

Question to the authors: One or two years ago, somebody said that there was also an issue with the material manager when deleting an entry. Meaning, that the next material got some of the values assigned from that deleted material (similar to what i fixed now in the image manager). Is that still true? (cause i could not repro this)

I remember mentioning it. Have not seen it for a while.

I have seen one other weird thing on a few occasions. All of a sudden, all of the sound files got removed from the table I assume at a save-point. Had to re-import them from an earlier rev. Pretty sure I did not accidentally delete them all.

 

Might take a quick look.

Thanks

[Outhere]

What do you think of adding this to the next release of the all-in-one installer

If it finds at least one then it would ask about overwriting

If you said no It would put on the ones that are missing

bally_6803_gts3_nvram.zip 1.2.0

https://www.vpforums...s&showfile=1362

[bord]

I have seen one other weird thing on a few occasions. All of a sudden, all of the sound files got removed from the table I assume at a save-point. Had to re-import them from an earlier rev. Pretty sure I did not accidentally delete them all.

 

Might take a quick look.

Thanks

 

 

I have seen that on all versions of VPX since the beginning. Doesn't happen often.

[jpsalas]

I have not had that issue with the materials in a long time.The only thing I have noticed in the material management is that if you delete all the materials, then you cannot import new from a file until you add 1 material. But it is a small thing, that's why I have not reported it before

 

Hmm.. This i cannot repro.. I deleted all materials, then imported a material, and that worked.

 

 

I mean after deleting all the materials, then the import button is greyed out. But if you add a new material, or simple press ok, and open the material again, then you can import again. As I said, it is a small thing, not worth the time to look into it.

 

PS: I guess I deleted too much text

Edited by jpsalas, 15 April 2019 - 07:05 PM.

[toxie]

What do you think of adding this to the next release of the all-in-one installer

If it finds at least one then it would ask about overwriting

If you said no It would put on the ones that are missing

bally_6803_gts3_nvram.zip 1.2.0

https://www.vpforums...s&showfile=1362

 

It's already included. Or does it not work in practice?

[Outhere]

 

What do you think of adding this to the next release of the all-in-one installer

If it finds at least one then it would ask about overwriting

If you said no It would put on the ones that are missing

bally_6803_gts3_nvram.zip 1.2.0

https://www.vpforums...s&showfile=1362

 

It's already included. Or does it not work in practice?

 

It seem like it might not be because people are attempting to run games and are not working...

But it is included

I did some testing

Ist test - I deleted the nv files and I did a reinstall and yes it puts those files on..

2nd test - I left some of the nv files on to see what it would do, I reinstalled..It does not ask if I want to over write

Edited by Outhere, 16 April 2019 - 01:07 AM.

[psmiraglia]

Feature request: to have the option for both the camera mode text block as well as the F11 stats to be shown on the bottom left corner of the table rather than the top left of the screen. This may help both desktop and cabinet users alike. Thanks in advance.

Edited by psmiraglia, 16 April 2019 - 07:20 PM.

[stampedem]

Feature request: to have the option for both the camera mode text block as well as the F11 stats to be shown on the bottom left corner of the table rather than the top left of the screen. This may help besitos and cabinet users alike. Thanks in advance.

I second this!

[javier1515]

maybe this order was already made but what else 

 

incorporate images in .TGA format and a DMD that for the original tables would be great. 

 

Sorry if it's repeated or if you already talk about these things.

[jpsalas]

I think PNG is better than TGA, but I know what you want ... to use the images from the FP tables directly, without need for converting them to PNG, since FP supports TGA

 

A built in DMD should be a dream come true, but for that to work VPX should need to support several screens. And that is not happening just now. The same as to support other sounds formats, like OGG, which is in the list of things to do, but it will need to wait for now too.

[toxie]

uhoh.. i just found a longstanding bug (in since VP10.0) that leads to artifacts in lighting..

 

the problem is that fixing this can lead to brighter or darker playfields (as one prominent example), but that also depends on the used environment map that is used for the image based lighting..

if there is a high contrast between the lower and upper region of the env map one gets this effect..

 

i just commited the fix, but please check with the next build how bad it is in practice for all those existing tables..  :/

[Umpa]

Feature request: to have the option for both the camera mode text block as well as the F11 stats to be shown on the bottom left corner of the table rather than the top left of the screen. This may help besitos and cabinet users alike. Thanks in advance.

I second this!

I also like this idea! Better for me would be top or bottom on right corner. Closer to my flipper buttons.

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