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[Zablon]

Been going through the tables, and many table scripts error out with the .ShowPinDMD command as an unsupported command. (not all so I know it does work). Would this have somethign to do with tables built with earlier builds of VP?

Ideally - any game that has the score on the BG would not need to use the PinDMD, but would be using UVP instead. These would be the ones that we would want the .ShowPinDMD = 0 for.

Some tables use a differnet set of scripting commands such as Banzai Run, uses "Controller.command = True or Fale" and the .ShowPinDMD does not work with that.

For Instance - Back to the Future:

Error: Object doesn't support this property or method: 'ShowPinDMD'

Script:
With Controller
.GameName = cGameName
If Err Then MsgBox "Can't start Game " & cGameName & vbNewLine & Err.Description:Exit Sub
.SplashInfoLine = "Back to the Future Collectors Edition" & vbNewLine & "VP911 by JPSalas v1.0"
.ShowTitle = 0
.ShowDMDOnly = 1
.ShowFrame = 0
.HandleMechanics = 0
.Hidden = 1
.ShowPinDMD = 0
On Error Resume Next
.Run GetPlayerHWnd
If Err Then MsgBox Err.Description
On Error Goto 0
End With

Just some things I found. No biggy

Edited by Zablon, 31 March 2012 - 09:40 PM.

[kruge99]

...
new VPinMAME.dll uploaded Thanks snotz
can grab from here VPinMAME.dll

this is the cabinent version
it also has an extra com command
.ShowPinDMD = 1

1 = use pinDMD
0 = dont use pinDMD

if the table does not have this command added to the script the default is to use the pinDMD so i guess you only need to add .ShowPinDMD = 0 to the tables you dont want the pinDMD in use

Quick question, why does Destruk's cabinet DLL come to 4.9k while this one is only 1.2k?


Best Regards,
Todd.

[bossgp]

Been away from the forums for a while what is the outcome of these pcb's and do they work fine,
I put my name down a while ago for one and would like to purchase if they are working .
Thanks
Bossgp

[russdx]

this .dll has been compressed thats why its smaller

ah bossgp, you was on my first order list but i could not get in contact with you. i have moved you to my second preOrder list


@Zablon - me and snotz will look into that, thanks

Edited by russdx, 31 March 2012 - 10:33 PM.

[Snotz]

To those having issues like Zablon, this seems to be an issue with UVP backglasses.

I have to do a few more tests, but it seems that the ultravpserver.exe doesnt know how to pass the new COM control to the vpinmame.dll. When you use UVP backglasses, you set the controller to UltraVP.BackglassServ... that controller runs the ultravpserver.exe which uses your COM controls and because ultravpserver doesnt know ShowPinDMD, it will error.

Does anyone know how to get in touch with Manofwar so that we can fix this?

Edited by Snotz, 31 March 2012 - 11:08 PM.

[kruge99]

To those having issues like Zablon, this seems to be an issue with UVP backglasses.

I have to do a few more tests, but it seems that the ultravpserver.exe doesnt know how to pass the new COM control to the vpinmame.dll. When you use UVP backglasses, you set the controller to UltraVP.BackglassServ... that controller runs the ultravpserver.exe which uses your COM controls and because ultravpserver doesnt know ShowPinDMD, it will error.

Good, (for me mebbe) because I'm editing all my tables to:

- disable UVP
- move the DMD to pos 0x 0y
- make the default pinmame display .hidden = true
- then I'm going to edit all my backglass images to remove the speaker grill!

w00 h00!! In my humble opinion, this is the best "add on" to be developed for Virtual Pinball since the Pinball Wizard / Nanotech diy plunger kit!!


Best Regards,
Todd.

[Zablon]

Thanks Snotz/Russ, I figured it had something to do with that, but oddly a few tables it works correctly even with UVP or in some cases w/o any changes to the script (250cc and Class of 1812 for example work correctly without any changes to the script). I guess I need to compare scripts and see what is different.

Krugge - why would you disable all UVP's? I understand if changing to B2S for some, but is still pretty much a must for scores on backglasses and/or backglass lights.

I agree with your sentiment about the DMD. It is so awesome and very good work Russdx!

Edited by Zablon, 31 March 2012 - 11:11 PM.

[kruge99]

Krugge - why would you disable all UVP's? I understand if changing to B2S for some, but is still pretty much a must for scores on backglasses and/or backglass lights.

A "pain-spot" for me was the excessive resource usage of UVP. All it offers me now for DMD games is the odd flashing light. Now I shouldn't have to worry about ball-stutter during a multi-ball game.

At some point I may re-enable UVP for some of the older non-DMD games, but for now, I'm hog-wild for my pinDMD usb board and my Vishay LED display!


Best Regards,
Todd.

[gbeef]

Went to go test my DMD i got a lemon. Awesome....

[sacredgaming]

Went to go test my DMD i got a lemon. Awesome....

I hope you didn't order it from future electronics they are the biggest pain in the ass to do or an rma with they sent me the wrong dmd and its taken just over two weeks to.straighten out. they are almost out of tge orange aswell

[The Loafer]

Jesus, I'm going to have to ask my bud to test my DMD pronto, this is worrying me.

[Snotz]

Did some more testing...
Its definitely because the UVP server doesnt know the ShowPinDMD control. UVP wont work unless I can get ahold of UVP's source from Manofwar, or if Manofwar would revise it.

On a brighter note, Brian has provided us with the cabinet dll settings, and I have added them to the dll (IgnoreCRC and FastFrames).

I am going to be doing a bit more testing and talking with Russ before we release a true "cabinet" dll. The previous dll should work perfectly on cabinets (I have been using it on mine). This new dll is just a few more settings.

[Zablon]

There "might" be a way through the script. I'm still digging what is different, but a few tables that use UVP for scoring do not have the PinDMD on and there was no need to add the "ShowPinDMD=0" command. I'm still digging as to what is different about these tables (looking specifically at 250cc and Class of 1812) to see if it can be duplicated to the other tables.

[destruk]

Other settings missing from UVP -
Controller.GetClientRect(GetPlayerHwnd) ' returns the width and height of the vp player window
Controller.NewSoundCommands ' interface to the visual pinmame sound commander to return the current sound command to the sound CPU in VPM - used for LOTR/Ripleys/Sopranos/etc etc

For some reason these aren't accessible or exist and cause the table script to crash - all it does is set the DMD colors in the windows registry
Controller.Games("clas1812").Settings.Value("dmd_red")=
Controller.Games("clas1812").Settings.Value("dmd_green")=
Controller.Games("clas1812").Settings.Value("dmd_blue")=

Snotz is in charge of releasing a new cabinet dll here with his merged changes - and I'll try to get a releasable version of VP uploaded soon. I'm not sure how stable the source is right now.

[russdx]

that sucks gbeef im guessing these displays have warranty? (will you be able to send it back and get a new one ok?)

@kruge99 im almost certain you have a faulty display as well (although very minor) might want to replace it before the warranty runs out as well hehe

thanks for that destruk

[gbeef]

that sucks gbeef im guessing these displays have warranty? (will you be able to send it back and get a new one ok?)

@kruge99 im almost certain you have a faulty display as well (although very minor) might want to replace it before the warranty runs out as well hehe

thanks for that destruk

I not quite sure, i hope so I paid with my CC so they should have be backed up also. I order another DMD from future because they were low instock. They crappy thing is the DMD didnt work from day 1, and i installed everything properly.
I bought it back in feb, so will see.

Edited by gbeef, 01 April 2012 - 01:53 PM.

[russdx]

i noticed there stock says they only have 4 left, hopefully they more in soon or my board is a bit useless lol

iv uploaded a new VPinMAME.dll with a few bug fixes
you can down load from here VPinMAME.dll

[Zablon]

They should get more in stock. I am sure they are having a run on displays that they aren't used to

@ Russ - hate to say this but that new cab dll breaks the new Diner B2S. The PinDMD never initializes. So far that was the only one I found that it breaks. (I tried adding the .ShowPinDMD=1 but did not help).

Edited by Zablon, 01 April 2012 - 05:09 PM.

[russdx]

ah ok, did this table work on the previous version? or has this new version broke it?

had a quick check of the normal vp table and that seams fine. me and snotz will look into why the B2S is broken

Edited by russdx, 01 April 2012 - 05:36 PM.

[Zablon]

Yes, it works fine on the previous version.