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#41 bigraceusa

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 09:45 PM

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I'll see if I can get a decent video with my digital camera. Not sure how well that will come out, but I'll try. The real test will be when my DP to DVI active adapter gets here and the third monitor gets added. That will be a few days yet.


Made some vids only with the digicam from my wife (I for me use a DSLR, without video) the quality is good enough for youtube, it's not HD. But it is a vid, with 640x480 and monosound wink.gif
I hope with your info we are more flexible: with my 9800GT (it's too slow for other games I play) I can only use 185.85 driver. With ATI I can use the latest (in other games I can double the fps without more energy)

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 03:24 AM

Here's a video as requested

Just a tripod shot of running AFM and 3 Angels.

I shot another one of Theater of Magic & Flame Reaper at the same time as this one - I'll upload that in the morning. Takes like 2 hours on my slow upstream.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 04:57 AM

Apparently I spoke too soon wink.gif

With the preview drivers, I get a glitch on The Getaway. When the yellow light on the supercharger ramp blinks, there's a big green square around it. I played this quit a bit the other day on the beta drivers, and it didn't do this.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 08:44 AM

QUOTE (epthegeek @ Mar 19 2010, 05:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apparently I spoke too soon wink.gif

With the preview drivers, I get a glitch on The Getaway. When the yellow light on the supercharger ramp blinks, there's a big green square around it. I played this quit a bit the other day on the beta drivers, and it didn't do this.


Thanks for your work with the vids and the test.
The table "The Getaway" is a VP table or I'm wrong?

We must see, they will change some things on the way to the final driver.
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Posted 19 March 2010 - 12:40 PM

QUOTE (epthegeek @ Mar 18 2010, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apparently I spoke too soon wink.gif

With the preview drivers, I get a glitch on The Getaway. When the yellow light on the supercharger ramp blinks, there's a big green square around it. I played this quit a bit the other day on the beta drivers, and it didn't do this.


Do you have re-order checked? HD render? Try to change those two, save and restart VP9.


 


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Posted 19 March 2010 - 01:12 PM

QUOTE (Rawd @ Mar 19 2010, 07:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (epthegeek @ Mar 18 2010, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apparently I spoke too soon wink.gif

With the preview drivers, I get a glitch on The Getaway. When the yellow light on the supercharger ramp blinks, there's a big green square around it. I played this quit a bit the other day on the beta drivers, and it didn't do this.


Do you have re-order checked? HD render? Try to change those two, save and restart VP9.


They were both checked. I tried turning off the crossfire to make sure that wasn't it - and it's not. I'll play around with the options tonight and see if anything helps it. I did try reimporting the image to see if it would fix the transparency, but it doesn't. The area looks fine, as long as the light isn't blinking - when it's redrawing that label to turn the light on/off - the green shows up when the light is "on" only.

So far I haven't seen any similar problems on other tables with the official preview driver, but I haven't played a ton since upgrading.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 01:14 PM

Try to uncheck re-order. Save the table, quit VP9 and restart it.


 


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Posted 19 March 2010 - 02:19 PM

I uploaded the second video since I had it shot already: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=p5pAYWW38PM

Theatre of Magic and Flame Reaper on that one. Running on the 10.3 preview drivers on a single 5770. I have a second 5770, but apparently I hadn't saved the crossfire settings, so it didn't stick and when I shot this video it was only running off of one card, so TOM is still a little chunky when the GI flashes. With the crossfire on, it's very smooth. Two 5770's in crossfire is basically on par with a 5870 single card, FYI.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 04:22 PM

QUOTE (epthegeek @ Mar 19 2010, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I uploaded the second video since I had it shot already: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=p5pAYWW38PM

Theatre of Magic and Flame Reaper on that one. Running on the 10.3 preview drivers on a single 5770. I have a second 5770, but apparently I hadn't saved the crossfire settings, so it didn't stick and when I shot this video it was only running off of one card, so TOM is still a little chunky when the GI flashes. With the crossfire on, it's very smooth. Two 5770's in crossfire is basically on par with a 5870 single card, FYI.


Thanks for this video again!
What's with the fps in FuturePinball? Have you test it (press F9)?
I has a Nvidia 9800GT 1 GB here, with this and driver 185.85 (the only that works) I have there between 41-60fps.

A 5770 is a little bit faster as a 5750. Your videos are very smooth for me.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 04:46 PM

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Thanks for this video again!
What's with the fps in FuturePinball? Have you test it (press F9)?
I has a Nvidia 9800GT 1 GB here, with this and driver 185.85 (the only that works) I have there between 41-60fps.

A 5770 is a little bit faster as a 5750. Your videos are very smooth for me.


I haven't ever actually looked at the FPS in Future Pinball. I'll do some testing in Three Angels tonight, with all the details cranked up to full, and post results. Since that seems to be the most demanding table.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 11:38 PM

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QUOTE (epthegeek @ Mar 19 2010, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I uploaded the second video since I had it shot already: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=p5pAYWW38PM

Theatre of Magic and Flame Reaper on that one. Running on the 10.3 preview drivers on a single 5770. I have a second 5770, but apparently I hadn't saved the crossfire settings, so it didn't stick and when I shot this video it was only running off of one card, so TOM is still a little chunky when the GI flashes. With the crossfire on, it's very smooth. Two 5770's in crossfire is basically on par with a 5870 single card, FYI.


Thanks for this video again!
What's with the fps in FuturePinball? Have you test it (press F9)?
I has a Nvidia 9800GT 1 GB here, with this and driver 185.85 (the only that works) I have there between 41-60fps.

A 5770 is a little bit faster as a 5750. Your videos are very smooth for me.


I ran it with the FPS on for a few games - it just stayed pegged at solid 60fps. I don't know if there's a way to uncap it to see how hight it really is going, but it never dipped below 60 once.


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Posted 19 March 2010 - 11:40 PM

QUOTE (epthegeek @ Mar 19 2010, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (bigraceusa @ Mar 19 2010, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (epthegeek @ Mar 19 2010, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I uploaded the second video since I had it shot already: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=p5pAYWW38PM

Theatre of Magic and Flame Reaper on that one. Running on the 10.3 preview drivers on a single 5770. I have a second 5770, but apparently I hadn't saved the crossfire settings, so it didn't stick and when I shot this video it was only running off of one card, so TOM is still a little chunky when the GI flashes. With the crossfire on, it's very smooth. Two 5770's in crossfire is basically on par with a 5870 single card, FYI.


Thanks for this video again!
What's with the fps in FuturePinball? Have you test it (press F9)?
I has a Nvidia 9800GT 1 GB here, with this and driver 185.85 (the only that works) I have there between 41-60fps.

A 5770 is a little bit faster as a 5750. Your videos are very smooth for me.


I ran it with the FPS on for a few games - it just stayed pegged at solid 60fps. I don't know if there's a way to uncap it to see how hight it really is going, but it never dipped below 60 once.


If you turn off V-sync, you will see your true FPS. It may play strange with odd physics and a choppy ball, so only change it to check your FPS.



 


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Posted 19 March 2010 - 11:41 PM

QUOTE (Rawd @ Mar 19 2010, 08:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Try to uncheck re-order. Save the table, quit VP9 and restart it.


Tried with and without HD Render, with and without Reorder. Exported the image, changed the BG color (so I could be sure what was exactly), reimported it -- still draws the background when the light flashes to "on". I still haven't seen this on any other table.

Don't suppose anybody knows off hand of another table that uses a reel for a flashing light like that? (Single image with 4 images in it, changes what section is showing to show various lights)

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 05:28 PM

The 10.3 is WHQL - how is it?
Anyone test it? I for me must wait 1 or 2 weeks for buy me a new card.
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Posted 25 March 2010 - 05:42 PM

I just got it for XP. Final verdict: The better your card, the more preformance boost you will see in HD Render.

For me? Well, my crappy laptop card actually preforms WORSE in HD Render mode - Vista hogging resources or something slowed down the software rendering and made HD Render look better from my perspective.

So, the better your card, the more likely you'll want to use HD Render from now on.

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 11:44 AM

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The 10.3 is WHQL - how is it?
Anyone test it? I for me must wait 1 or 2 weeks for buy me a new card.


Yes, I am using it with my ATI Radeon 4850 (WinXP and Win7) - it really makes a difference ! For example Sea Witch VP9 looks really good now with HD Render on cool.gif
Don't feel the need anymore to switch to Nvidia...

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 12:34 PM

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The 10.3 is WHQL - how is it?
Anyone test it? I for me must wait 1 or 2 weeks for buy me a new card.


Yes, I am using it with my ATI Radeon 4850 (WinXP and Win7) - it really makes a difference ! For example Sea Witch VP9 looks really good now with HD Render on cool.gif
Don't feel the need anymore to switch to Nvidia...


...just wait, as soon as that "fix" negatively impacts the card/drivers in some popular performance testing web site, ATI will remove it or break it... Then you will be stuck with 10.3 until they get off their arse and fix it again. I was an ATI fanboy for more than 2 decades, I'm not switching back so quickly.


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Posted 26 March 2010 - 01:01 PM

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Yes, I am using it with my ATI Radeon 4850 (WinXP and Win7) - it really makes a difference ! For example Sea Witch VP9 looks really good now with HD Render on cool.gif
Don't feel the need anymore to switch to Nvidia...

Thats good news, thank you.
...when ATI change some things in the driver and then it works not again, we have the same with nvidia today. Only one driver works here 185.85 (from early 2009).
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:21 PM

QUOTE (epthegeek @ Mar 20 2010, 12:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (bigraceusa @ Mar 19 2010, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (epthegeek @ Mar 19 2010, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I uploaded the second video since I had it shot already: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=p5pAYWW38PM

Theatre of Magic and Flame Reaper on that one. Running on the 10.3 preview drivers on a single 5770. I have a second 5770, but apparently I hadn't saved the crossfire settings, so it didn't stick and when I shot this video it was only running off of one card, so TOM is still a little chunky when the GI flashes. With the crossfire on, it's very smooth. Two 5770's in crossfire is basically on par with a 5870 single card, FYI.


Thanks for this video again!
What's with the fps in FuturePinball? Have you test it (press F9)?
I has a Nvidia 9800GT 1 GB here, with this and driver 185.85 (the only that works) I have there between 41-60fps.

A 5770 is a little bit faster as a 5750. Your videos are very smooth for me.


I ran it with the FPS on for a few games - it just stayed pegged at solid 60fps. I don't know if there's a way to uncap it to see how hight it really is going, but it never dipped below 60 once.


I have now a 5750 1 GB from Gigabyte here, want to thank you so much!
Future Pinball runs very smooth, better as with the old 9800 GT (I resell it).

With the 10.2 driver I haven't a backglas image
With the 10.3 this is fixed.

I have 60 fps with out go down.
Can only say big thanks to you.

Have only test future pinball, but now we have the chance to take what we want Nvidia or ATI and not only Nvidia with old drivers...

Edited by bigraceusa, 31 March 2010 - 09:22 PM.

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