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[bladexdsl]

my ball fell through the left ramp (the skull one) and got stuck

[jpsalas]

I tried to fix that in this last revision. Did this happen on this 1.3.1?

[bolt]

Thanks for the update.

[bladexdsl]

I tried to fix that in this last revision. Did this happen on this 1.3.1?

yes the ball went a little way up the ramp just inside the skull didn't make it than it feel through.

Edited by bladexdsl, 16 April 2011 - 07:34 AM.

[jpsalas]

New update, 1.3.2, and the last, I hope

Thanks to Sheltemke for pointing out where the ball got stuck. I think this one is taken cared now

JP

[billyrjse]

Thank you for the update JP!
But this ramdom kickout (SW37) seems to not work. For me the ball makes this movement shown in this pic below 99,99% of the time. This is very noticeable during the crate multiball.

Edited by billyrjse, 16 April 2011 - 01:33 PM.

[jpsalas]

Well, it is supposed to do something like this anyway

[bladexdsl]

at least it doesn't make a beeline for the left outlane like it used to

[jpsalas]

Yes, I fixed that too. When you make a table then you have to test it. You can test it for hours and everything seems ok. Then someone try it and it just takes a few minutes to discover a lot of things that need to be changed This is normal, at least in my tables, hahaha But usually they get fixed quickly

[kruge99]

I'm not using this to complain, just to point out that there does seem to be a bit more randomness on a real Scared Stiff during crate multiball on this one particular machine, featured in the following youtube video:



This is almost 10 minutes long and the person hits two "crate multiball" sessions and when the ball ejects it seems to hit the right flipper more often than it hits the left flipper or the inlane on the leftside.

That being said, this version of Scared Stiff JPSalas has bestowed upon us is a visual marvel to behold! Thanks for being such an awesome supporter JP!!


Best Regards,
Todd.

[jpsalas]

ok, you win I'll make an update And I have to fix the last error I know and this is: the ball may fall down in the middle of the ramp and get stuck under it. I think this is due to the alpha ramps. The solution I'll try is to use normal invisible ramps to be the real ramps, and use the alpha ramps just as decoration (they won't be collidable). So it won't take long before a new version is released

[kruge99]

ok, you win I'll make an update And I have to fix the last error I know and this is: the ball may fall down in the middle of the ramp and get stuck under it. I think this is due to the alpha ramps. The solution I'll try is to use normal invisible ramps to be the real ramps, and use the alpha ramps just as decoration (they won't be collidable). So it won't take long before a new version is released

Hi JP, I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to win, I was looking for actual gameplay to figure out the angle of eject for sw37 to figure out "where" the ball was being ejected to. Unfortunately the youtube video I posted is not clear enough to make a proper determination. I noticed that sw37 rather consistently kicks out to hit the slingshot wall sw67 with the angle set to 110. (you randomize the speed by 3 and the angle by 8 for sw37) That being said, if you adjust the sw37 angle to say 92, I think this might be high enough to make the ejected ball "go anywhere" and satisfy the few people who want it to be random.

Let me state, I do not know if this is correct for the actual machine! I would much rather someone who owns the actual machine point out the actual path the ball follows when ejected during crate multiball please. A screenshot similar to the one posted by billyrjse posted will be sufficient. Thank you.


Best Regards,
Todd.

[jpsalas]

You did notice the ? Anyway I need to make an update to fix the problem with the ball falling through the ramp just under the snake's skull. So I can ad a change in the angle too

[kruge99]

You did notice the ? Anyway I need to make an update to fix the problem with the ball falling through the ramp just under the snake's skull. So I can ad a change in the angle too

LoL! yes I did see the but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't trying to be rude, just helpful.


Best Regards,
Todd.

[ta2686]

Thanks for the update JP! Look forward to your next one on this table. Looks fantastic with the alpha transparencies!

[billyrjse]

Hey JP! I'm just trying to help because I know this table very well even in real life. Please... I love your job, man! I'm not looking for flaws in them. I just think the ball is doing inconsistent movements comparing real physics. Kruge99 is right. The ball tries to go to the right flipper, but this is not a constant. In real machine the ball has more boucing on the walls. Please, watch the video of my post # 31... It's clear to see the movements of the ball.

Sorry for my bad english...

Thank you very much!
Respectfully
Billy


Here is the video...

Youtube Video - Scared Stiff

Edited by billyrjse, 17 April 2011 - 12:29 AM.

[sast05]

A number of people seem to be having a problem with the ROM sound breaking up. Over the period of a game, the sound becomes worse and worse until the entire soundtrack becomes totally garbled with snaps and pops. Here is the text of some previous posts:

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The sound is still messing up (stuttering/echoing) after a few minutes of gameplay....this is what I have...


Intel®Core™@ CPU Processor
1.6GHz, 1GB of Ram
NiVidea GeForce 6800 GS
RealTek AC'97 Audio Sound Card


Can SOMEONE Please help me as to how to get this Pinball sounds to play smoothly???

Thanks in advance,
Richard

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After many games, I discovered it's the leaper dropwall animation that garbles the sound on my comp. With every leaper hit, the sound would get worse and worse to the point the sound was very distorted and echo-laden. Disabling the leaper animation instantly cured the sound problem. (Now, if I could just make some reels for the leaper animation!)

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I experienced the same problems with my computer and I seemed to come up with a solution to fix the problem:

1. Unchecked HD Render
2. Alpha Ramp slider all the way to left
3. Went to Visual Pinmame Game Settings and set Visual Pinmames Sample Rate to 22050
4. Now the time consuming part:
Went into the sound manager and exported the following wave files:

boogiekick (44.1 Khz)
bumper1 (44.1 Khz)
bumper2 (44.1 Khz)
droptarget (44.1 Khz)
glasshit (80.05 Khz)
glasshit_high (80.05 Khz)
glasshit_low (80.05 Khz)
rubberflipper (44.1 Khz)
target (44.1 Khz)

Using Windows "Sound Recorder", I converted all nine "wave" files to 22.05 Khz to match all the other samples in the sound manager. I then went into the sound manager and deleted the nine original wave files and imported the nine new 22.05 Khz wave files. Then I saved the entire table with the changes.

Now the sound is perfect , with no breakups when I run the game. (The tipoff was the leaper dropwall animation. During the animation glasshit, glasshit_high, and glasshit_low were all played during the subroutine and they each were sampled at 80.05 Khz. At first deleting these samples from the sound manager made a huge difference in the sound quality)

JP- I'm sure these changes would definitely make your table run better on low end computers and/or graphic cards.

Thanx!

[TheMcD]

Yeah, I always just delete the glass_hit files to make it easier on the sound.

The McD

[jpsalas]

I use a sound blaster card so I have no problems with the sound. but I'll go through the samples and I'll reduce them to 22Khz, since there isn't much difference anyway

I'm nearly ready to finish a new update for this table. I think now the snake/skull ramp works fine (a slow ball could fall through the ramp). I guess is reason are the alpha ramps and if the slider is all to the left then there may be small gap between ramps, and the ball fall down. What I did was to add normal invisible ramps, and make the alpha ramps non collidable. So far so good

JP

[Bob5453]

What I did was to add normal invisible ramps, and make the alpha ramps non collidable. So far so good

Great idea there JP! Maybe all alpha VP ramps should be for appearance only.