Hello my friends, I was away from pinball communities for some time but today something very important happened and I thought I had to share it with all the other pinball emulation fans here.
Adrian Barritt, the mastermind behind Cunning Developments and Silverball Studios, has contacted me (as a reply in an older conversation we had) to inform me that something new is going to be announced about Pro Pinball, soon. He also pointed me at the new Pro Pinball page in Facebook, in where we can all learn about the announcement!
We all know that Pro Pinball series was the most realistic pc pinball emulation that ever existed, even in the era of modern of 3d graphics (where pinball has been forgotten). before almost a year, there was a hope to see a new high end emulator by FarSight, that could also use licensed roms from classic tables, but, unfortunately...they only made versions for every other major platform (including OSx) and we still wait for a PC version... I have tried their most popular versions in Android and iOS tablets and unfortunately they were not even close to the experience someone can have with Visual Pinball or even those 90s dinosaur titles from the Pro Pinball series on a PC.
I hope for a new, original and mind blowing Pro Pinball table/series and that might happen very soon!!!
The mobile versions really aren't that great "sim-wise" the console versions are VASTLY better. I suggest you try them if you can. The PC version when it finally gets released will be pretty awesome I'm sure.
I am really tired Rob, and my brain won't be doing any clicking tonight! What's your theory? Here is mine......
I am thinking maybe they might initially release the original tables TS, FJ and BRUSA with just an update to HD resolution (they were close already), and portrait mode for cab players - prob single screen. I reckon there is no new Engine and this kind of release will test the water to see if there is an appetite for new tables.
1600x1200 is higher resolution when it comes to horizontal lines, just not widsescreen. It's pretty high definition. I remember playing TS in 1600x1200 and my jaw still hits the floor.
It's very playable on Win7 64-bit. All four games are in fact. This is not an uncommon problem though. If you have the DOS versions they will not be playable at all. I'm wondering if certain GFX cards struggle with it. I remember I returned to playing TS on my XP machine (Back when my AthlonXP 3000+ with 2GB Dual Channel DDR was a beast of a machine) and occaisonally it would stutter for a second when the ball was moving fast down the flippers...never figured that one out.
No new site for me. I just get a redirect to the same old silverball studios site.
Yes this announcement is what I expected, somewhat. I thought a new table might be coming but I certainly wasn't positive about it like I was about the remakes, I knew those were happening. I had no idea that the whole kickstarter thing needed to happen first. That is kind of a bummer. I'm honestly sick of kickstarters. They don't even have licensing to deal with & have obviously made many games in the past without kickstarter. I would just rather support a company by buying their product & spreading the word. There is only so many times I can give helpful amounts to a game kickstarter when I already struggle to pay bills sometimes.
With the whole cabinet thing. From my understanding, they have some limitations on this since they are sticking with pre-rendered tables. So what people will get in cabinet mode (what they call portrait) is basically the hybrid view I've talked about on here. you'll get the same views as in desktop mode, but they will just fit the screen better in portrait.
They say it should look nice in a cabinet though, but maybe don't expect it to come across like
VP FS does or fill the screen. Or, maybe you can fill the screen but what you get is what the current PP tables offer which is an overhead 2D view, but I'm not sure how many ppl would like that.
Just one question: will the remastered tables of The Web and Timeshock have the background music with them? I have the originals and can get NO music to play. FJ and BRUSA have the music, but the other two don't.
I think The Web and Timeshock played the background music directly from the CD. If you have a downloaded copy then you won't get the music for those tables.
Yes, but I don't see why everybody doesn't just buy the CD's. I think they are still selling the entire 4 pack for like $10 on amazon. Needless to say it is worth paying that to get music on those tables. & then some.
With the whole cabinet thing. From my understanding, they have some limitations on this since they are sticking with pre-rendered tables. So what people will get in cabinet mode (what they call portrait) is basically the hybrid view I've talked about on here. you'll get the same views as in desktop mode, but they will just fit the screen better in portrait.
They say it should look nice in a cabinet though, but maybe don't expect it to come across like
VP FS does or fill the screen. Or, maybe you can fill the screen but what you get is what the current PP tables offer which is an overhead 2D view, but I'm not sure how many ppl would like that.
The only limitation that comes with pre-rendering is the fixed number of different viewing angles. But we will be rendering a specific cabinet view for portrait mode that will look as close as possible to a real table in front of you, it will certainly fill the entire screen. When the time comes, we'll be happy to share some test renders here to get feedback on what looks best.
That is indeed good news. I can't wait to load these tables up with modern enhancements like AF (filtering) & AA (antialias). Though the old tables do still look great so I'm not sure how much they can be improved, so it is exciting to think that even those can be improved on.
What is your story? In what way do you work with these guys? How high up the ladder do you go? Just wondering cuz maybe you can pass along info. Also you could find the best beta testers around right here. If you want testing especially with physics & details, I have no problem saying I would be one of the best around at doing that or just giving general feedback. I know everybody wants to be a beta tester for early access to a game, but that isn't me. I just really think good, proper testers can improve the game.
You guys must already have something done with the remakes. The Web has insert text on the pic you guys show of it. & are the remakes on an earlier release date than the new table? Or if this is only distributed on disc, then I assume you would do it all in 1 package.
If my memory serves me well, the screenshots on the website are just the shots they give you in the actual games themselves (they all have slideshows showing different angles of the tables) The tables already exist in a 3D editor somewhere, probably with build textures far greater than needed for gameplay. Those renders probably took hours to create back in the day and could now be done pretty quickly i can imagine. They can render the tables at whatever angles they want. I'm a bit disappointed that they aren't moving to 3D simply because the engine could be a lot more malleable. But from a pure gameplay perspective it really doesn't matter. They said the magic words: Cabinet, support, new, table
What I don't understand is why a goal for 400,000$ for tables that (correct me if I'm wrong, this is why I'm asking) simply need to be re-rendered at new angles? Are there going to be any engine changes?
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