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[Mmmbacon]

Just to chime in here, I have the latest Pinball HOF The Williams Collection for the PS3 and it is FANTASTIC. It looks gorgeous, absolutely amazing. Earlier in the thread, people were talking about lag or slowdown on some multiball. I have put some hours in this bad boy got all the achievements, er, Trophys and table goals and I have yet to run across any lag.

From their announcement, it seems that they have been listening to the fans at least a little. This has the possibility of something big. If they do this right....

or Ill echo what was stated so eloquently earlier:

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY :-)

[jeffy777]

Now we just need the zen pinball guys to put out their fantastic originals in a PC version that is cabinet friendly, too.

They are bringing their Marvel tables to PC sometime next year, but we'll have to wait and see if they are cabinet friendly.

[CuriousDan]

Gonna buy the Farsight tables on PC, PS3 and iPad...it's gonna be sweet to be able to take it everywhere... and hopefully they will speed up the gameplay a little...

Edited by CuriousDan, 27 October 2011 - 07:06 AM.

[hassanchop]

Earlier in the thread, people were talking about lag or slowdown on some multiball. I have put some hours in this bad boy got all the achievements, er, Trophys and table goals and I have yet to run across any lag.

you didnt notice a slowdown on the totam's 4 ball multiball last event fight the genie? or the 4 ball multiball on MM?
wow!! then my PS3 must be kinda old! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH


i am gonna buy these DLC for sure! count me in

[jeffy777]

Gonna buy the Farsight tables on PC, PS3 and iPad...it's gonna be sweet to be able to take it everywhere... and hopefully they will speed up the gameplay a little...

It sounds like they are planning to. I just read this on their facebook page:

"....all of the physics tweaks and graphical improvement that we added to the PAL version and more will be included in any re-released table. We're also tuning the game to play a little faster in general and implementing physics needed to support advanced flipper techniques."

"We're big fans of the Pinball 101 DVD, too! They did a great job on it! Keith and Randy Elwin came up for a visit to our studio last month. It's our goal that all of the flipper techniques you've mentioned (plus bounce passes, post passes, alley passes, tip passes, and flipper passes) will be possible in The Pinball Arcade except for "death saves" (that's cheating). They're working pretty well already, but we'll get Keith's blessing on these moves before we officially claim to support them."

[CuriousDan]

Gonna buy the Farsight tables on PC, PS3 and iPad...it's gonna be sweet to be able to take it everywhere... and hopefully they will speed up the gameplay a little...

It sounds like they are planning to. I just read this on their facebook page:

"....all of the physics tweaks and graphical improvement that we added to the PAL version and more will be included in any re-released table. We're also tuning the game to play a little faster in general and implementing physics needed to support advanced flipper techniques."

"We're big fans of the Pinball 101 DVD, too! They did a great job on it! Keith and Randy Elwin came up for a visit to our studio last month. It's our goal that all of the flipper techniques you've mentioned (plus bounce passes, post passes, alley passes, tip passes, and flipper passes) will be possible in The Pinball Arcade except for "death saves" (that's cheating). They're working pretty well already, but we'll get Keith's blessing on these moves before we officially claim to support them."

Don't get me wrong, I love the PHOF, but if you compare it to a PAPA video, the PHOF is ...too slow. I hope they will speed up the gameplay, JP Salas style!

Edited by CuriousDan, 28 October 2011 - 07:16 AM.

[Nick Warcholak]

Don't get me wrong, I love the PHOF, but if you compare it to a PAPA video, the PHOF is ...too slow. I hope they will speed up the gameplay, JP Salas style!

That's not true across the board. The speeds on the older tables, like Space Shuttle and Whirlwind seem fine. The problem is, the same speeds are found in MM, TotAN, and NGG, which seem to play faster in real life. (There's also a different issue where it's difficult to perceive the ball actually rolling, which can create a "floating" illusion.) The PAL version of the game does speed up the gameplay on those tables to more realistic levels and it sounds like they are aware of what needs to be done here.

I love JP's stuff, but it often plays a bit too fast compared to the real thing. This is not necessarily bad - I enjoy his sped up Cirqus Voltaire more than the real thing I have local to me - but I think they should stick to trying to make the tables as accurate as possible in this collection.

Edited by Nick War, 28 October 2011 - 01:59 PM.

[Sabbat]

I hope they will speed up the gameplay, JP Salas style!

I love JP's stuff, but it often plays a bit too fast compared to the real thing.

agreed, I hope they dont.

[panootz]

I was reading Groni's Banzai run wip and he said to me he won't be doing a 4:3 because it would be too hard. Well let's just hope us 4:3 people get a version of Banzai run on The Pinball Arcade especially on the 3DS with two screens that would be incredible, i'm going to write to them right know on Facebook and see what they say.

[panootz]

I asked the question on Facebook to the pinball Arcade if we would ever see S.A.M. games like Pirates of the caribean, Family Guy, Spiderman, or any other older games from S.A.M. hardware. Well he said those 3 games and more are being considered but they won't be out until a year, because we have have to get the license and figure out the S.A.M. hardware. But believe me we really want these to come to the home consoles, so it will probably happen someday. I am really excited about this Emulator coming the more i write to them and they answer back, some places don't anser back. This is AWSOME news for us pinball fans, i can't wait until January or February what ever they deciede to do.

[Joe]

I asked the question on Facebook to the pinball Arcade if we would ever see S.A.M. games like Pirates of the caribean, Family Guy, Spiderman, or any other older games from S.A.M. hardware. Well he said those 3 games and more are being considered but they won't be out until a year, because we have have to get the license and figure out the S.A.M. hardware. But believe me we really want these to come to the home consoles, so it will probably happen someday. I am really excited about this Emulator coming the more i write to them and they answer back, some places don't anser back. This is AWSOME news for us pinball fans, i can't wait until January or February what ever they deciede to do.

Emulator? Are they useing pinmame?? Can you get to the setting menus? The figure out the S.A.M. hardware make it seem like they are useing pinmame or the code from it as that is not yet in there. For the pre S.A.M games do they have the DMD timing bug?

They plan to have Cirqus Voltaire will it have rom 2.0H?

also be nice to some day have Cirqus Voltaire prototype roms with old ringmaster voice I think it is rom D.52

But with out home roms you will miss out on some stuff and makeing VP better.

In the promo video you see a credit dot so they have to be useing some kind of Emulator.

Also S.A.M will come to pinmame after stern moves to there new system.

[FrankT]

I asked the question on Facebook to the pinball Arcade if we would ever see S.A.M. games like Pirates of the caribean, Family Guy, Spiderman, or any other older games from S.A.M. hardware. Well he said those 3 games and more are being considered but they won't be out until a year, because we have have to get the license and figure out the S.A.M. hardware. But believe me we really want these to come to the home consoles, so it will probably happen someday. I am really excited about this Emulator coming the more i write to them and they answer back, some places don't anser back. This is AWSOME news for us pinball fans, i can't wait until January or February what ever they deciede to do.

I'd like to see Wheel of Fortune on there!

[hassanchop]

I asked the question on Facebook to the pinball Arcade if we would ever see S.A.M. games like Pirates of the caribean, Family Guy, Spiderman, or any other older games from S.A.M. hardware. Well he said those 3 games and more are being considered but they won't be out until a year, because we have have to get the license and figure out the S.A.M. hardware. But believe me we really want these to come to the home consoles, so it will probably happen someday. I am really excited about this Emulator coming the more i write to them and they answer back, some places don't anser back. This is AWSOME news for us pinball fans, i can't wait until January or February what ever they deciede to do.

i saw their answer on fb, and just the fact that they are considering these pins is great news! cant wait for the release next year

Emulator? Are they useing pinmame?? Can you get to the setting menus?

on williams phof it seems like they made everything from scratch. dmd working, sounds working well etc.
and you can not get the setting menus. not even change the dmd size or position. that is the bad part, but considering the amazing graphics and physics, i say the best stuff is there heheh

Edited by hassanchop, 29 October 2011 - 12:31 PM.

[Sabbat]

Panootz, they answered the SAM question but what about Banzai Run.

[Joe]

I asked the question on Facebook to the pinball Arcade if we would ever see S.A.M. games like Pirates of the caribean, Family Guy, Spiderman, or any other older games from S.A.M. hardware. Well he said those 3 games and more are being considered but they won't be out until a year, because we have have to get the license and figure out the S.A.M. hardware. But believe me we really want these to come to the home consoles, so it will probably happen someday. I am really excited about this Emulator coming the more i write to them and they answer back, some places don't anser back. This is AWSOME news for us pinball fans, i can't wait until January or February what ever they deciede to do.

i saw their answer on fb, and just the fact that they are considering these pins is great news! cant wait for the release next year

Emulator? Are they useing pinmame?? Can you get to the setting menus?

on williams phof it seems like they made everything from scratch. dmd working, sounds working well etc.
and you can not get the setting menus. not even change the dmd size or position. that is the bad part, but considering the amazing graphics and physics, i say the best stuff is there heheh

But the real roms have hidden stuff in them that you need the emulator to get to and I don't see madeing everything from scratch working out to well for games with deep game play in them.

[Shooby Doo]

While I can't find it now, I remember reading when PHOF first came out that Steve Ellenoff was contracted to emulate the ROM's for MM, NGG, and TOTAN (the 3 with DMD's). He said he had to make some changes to make them work properly with the game's menu and high scores, but it's the real ROM's. I would think for the new tables they would continue doing this, but I don't know if he's still working with them or not.

[pface]

Interesting... VERY interesting...

I do believe this is giving me the Claxton... err... I mean Horn!

[Noah Fentz]

Yes, Steve's still working with them. In what capacity is hard to say, but I know he is.

[Joe]

While I can't find it now, I remember reading when PHOF first came out that Steve Ellenoff was contracted to emulate the ROM's for MM, NGG, and TOTAN (the 3 with DMD's). He said he had to make some changes to make them work properly with the game's menu and high scores, but it's the real ROM's. I would think for the new tables they would continue doing this, but I don't know if he's still working with them or not.

But will they be able to use home rom? and will they hook up the coin door switchs so you can use the setting menus. Will they trun off adult modes in the games and lock out the setting menus?

[Shooby Doo]

In the existing games you can't access the ROM settings. I believe they're set to default settings, but I don't know which versions they use. The MM ROM is censored. When you start a game from the menu and the ROM starts, it begins immediately at first ball, and it ends and goes back to the menu after the match at the end of the game. If you get a match and win a credit, it adds that credit in the game after the ROM finishes.