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[rosve]

if I set the "LaunchBackglass" instruction in the table script to FALSE than bg doesn't load at all using hp? how do i make it load but close once i exit the table properly? it doesnt do this on ss though it's set to true however the bg closes properly??

If you want the bg to launch from HP, it is very important that the Table and the Backglass files have identical names and that they end with _B2S.
You also need the latest FPLaunch from HP forum.

ss doesnt have identical names or table ends with B2S but it works?

The B2S exe is checking the Esc key at regular intervalls. If you push the Esc long enough or twice the backglass should also shut itself down.

[bladexdsl]

my can doesnt have an esc key only E key.

Edited by bladexdsl, 24 September 2011 - 09:25 AM.

[kruge99]

Thanks for such great VPM mods. What's next Rosve? Hurricane?


Best Regards,
Todd.

[mikef]

my can doesnt have an esc key only E key.

Hi Blade,
I'm assuming you are using the new FPLaunch mod and have the E key set to Escape. You need to ensure the following:

Table name and B2S exe have exactly the same name, for example you could have Bad_Cats_FS_B2S.vpt and Bad_Cats_FS_B2S.exe
In the Script, make sure the Launch Backglass line is set to False, not True and also make sure the Filename specified matches both Table name and B2S exe file
Finally make sure that the B2S exe (and the Table name) don't have any spaces in there name - I'm not 100% certain about this, but I had trouble when I had spaces in the name - it wouldn't load

Thanks,
Mick

PS - Did you say you were getting a bit of ball stutter in Windows 7 x64? If so, Can you try something for me? Turn on an Aero Theme (default windows one will do) but leave the backdrop , don't change it to solid black or anything and let me know if it makes any difference for you - I ran Windows 7 with ball stutter and making this change made it run smoothly for me....

[gStAv]

PS - Did you say you were getting a bit of ball stutter in Windows 7 x64? If so, Can you try something for me? Turn on an Aero Theme (default windows one will do) but leave the backdrop , don't change it to solid black or anything and let me know if it makes any difference for you - I ran Windows 7 with ball stutter and making this change made it run smoothly for me....

Sorry for the slightly OT spinning on here, but this sounds interesting...
Love to hear if this have any global effect on stutter for tables in general when on W7

Hope to hear how it works out for you...

Cheers!

[DedRok_V]

Finally make sure that the B2S exe (and the Table name) don't have any spaces in there name - I'm not 100% certain about this, but I had trouble when I had spaces in the name - it wouldn't load

Spaces always work for me........Bad Cats FS 91x B2S

I,m usin XP though

[bladexdsl]

my can doesnt have an esc key only E key.

Hi Blade,
I'm assuming you are using the new FPLaunch mod and have the E key set to Escape. You need to ensure the following:

Table name and B2S exe have exactly the same name, for example you could have Bad_Cats_FS_B2S.vpt and Bad_Cats_FS_B2S.exe
In the Script, make sure the Launch Backglass line is set to False, not True and also make sure the Filename specified matches both Table name and B2S exe file
Finally make sure that the B2S exe (and the Table name) don't have any spaces in there name - I'm not 100% certain about this, but I had trouble when I had spaces in the name - it wouldn't load

Thanks,
Mick

PS - Did you say you were getting a bit of ball stutter in Windows 7 x64? If so, Can you try something for me? Turn on an Aero Theme (default windows one will do) but leave the backdrop , don't change it to solid black or anything and let me know if it makes any difference for you - I ran Windows 7 with ball stutter and making this change made it run smoothly for me....

it's weird though with ss it didn't have to do that the table name is scared stiff and load backlgass is set to true yet it opens and closes properly in hp. but badcats on the other hand is the complete opposite if i set loadbackglass to false it never loads!

already tried the aero theme i changed it to windows default cos of b2s tables except with a black back it didn't help. i still reckon the culprit is the motherboard it can't handle the power of 3 screens. i'm gonna swap it out for a asus crosshair V and phenom II 965.

Edited by bladexdsl, 25 September 2011 - 01:22 PM.

[mikef]

PS - Did you say you were getting a bit of ball stutter in Windows 7 x64? If so, Can you try something for me? Turn on an Aero Theme (default windows one will do) but leave the backdrop , don't change it to solid black or anything and let me know if it makes any difference for you - I ran Windows 7 with ball stutter and making this change made it run smoothly for me....

Sorry for the slightly OT spinning on here, but this sounds interesting...
Love to hear if this have any global effect on stutter for tables in general when on W7

Hope to hear how it works out for you...

Cheers!

I orignally started mucking around with my settings because I was trying to get Monopoly to work without stutter.
Here's what I did:

Using the latest NVIDIA non-Beta drivers at the time (I think 275.33) I went into the NVIDIA control panel and selected Manage 3D settings and set everything as follows:
Multi-display/mixed-GPU acceleration - Compatibility Mode
Power Management mode - Prefer Maximum Performance
Threaded Optimisation - Off
Vertical Sync - Off

Tried again (running Monopoly at whatever defaults it was on, Flashers running etc and it still stuttered.

The final thing I did was go into Control Panel, go into Themes and select the Windows 7 Aero Theme (then set the backdrops to Black Solid colour again).

Tried Monopoly again and it's now running smooth as silk. (Brilliant game by the way and looks beautiful).

Later on I found another bug with Windows 7 - if you use a Black Solid colour and Aero it causes focus issues with Hyperpin at startup, so I ended up creating a black jpg and set that as the background.

Be curious to know if this works for anyone else..
Thanks,
Mick

[Arcade4]

PS - Did you say you were getting a bit of ball stutter in Windows 7 x64? If so, Can you try something for me? Turn on an Aero Theme (default windows one will do) but leave the backdrop , don't change it to solid black or anything and let me know if it makes any difference for you - I ran Windows 7 with ball stutter and making this change made it run smoothly for me....

Sorry for the slightly OT spinning on here, but this sounds interesting...
Love to hear if this have any global effect on stutter for tables in general when on W7

Hope to hear how it works out for you...

Cheers!

I orignally started mucking around with my settings because I was trying to get Monopoly to work without stutter.
Here's what I did:

Using the latest NVIDIA non-Beta drivers at the time (I think 275.33) I went into the NVIDIA control panel and selected Manage 3D settings and set everything as follows:
Multi-display/mixed-GPU acceleration - Compatibility Mode
Power Management mode - Prefer Maximum Performance
Threaded Optimisation - Off
Vertical Sync - Off

Tried again (running Monopoly at whatever defaults it was on, Flashers running etc and it still stuttered.

The final thing I did was go into Control Panel, go into Themes and select the Windows 7 Aero Theme (then set the backdrops to Black Solid colour again).

Tried Monopoly again and it's now running smooth as silk. (Brilliant game by the way and looks beautiful).

Later on I found another bug with Windows 7 - if you use a Black Solid colour and Aero it causes focus issues with Hyperpin at startup, so I ended up creating a black jpg and set that as the background.

Be curious to know if this works for anyone else..
Thanks,
Mick

Thanks for the tip. I will give it a try soon.
My monopoly stutters to much to play very well at the moment.

[Flying Dutchman]

Finally make sure that the B2S exe (and the Table name) don't have any spaces in there name - I'm not 100% certain about this, but I had trouble when I had spaces in the name - it wouldn't load

Spaces always work for me........Bad Cats FS 91x B2S

I,m usin XP though

Spaces work for me as well (Win 7 - 64-bit) => UVP Hurricane B2S

Great work rosve .. only, I think the Spider needs a serious replacement .. it looks like attached '1' but should be like attached '2' ..

Cheers,
FD.

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•  AAAA___Spider_2.png   320.78KB   20 downloads

Edited by Flying Dutchman, 28 September 2011 - 09:30 PM.

[bladexdsl]

'mikef' date='Sep 28 2011, 12:22 PM' post='141988'

Be curious to know if this works for anyone else..
Thanks,
Mick

the black bg helped with hp no more wheel stutter but unfortunately the other tips didn't help the ball stutter on nearly all of my tables. it has to be the m/b than it can't handle it i'm gonna swap it out for a asus crosshair V. if you want to talk more go to glowpin thread were kinda HJ this

Edited by bladexdsl, 28 September 2011 - 11:31 PM.

[Flying Dutchman]

Finally make sure that the B2S exe (and the Table name) don't have any spaces in there name - I'm not 100% certain about this, but I had trouble when I had spaces in the name - it wouldn't load

Spaces always work for me........Bad Cats FS 91x B2S

I,m usin XP though

Spaces work for me as well (Win 7 - 64-bit) => UVP Hurricane B2S

Great work rosve .. only, I think the Spider needs a serious replacement .. it looks like attached '1' but should be like attached '2' ..

Cheers,
FD.

I cropped out the original 'Scared Stiff Spider' but I don't seem to be able to upload it ..

Edited by Flying Dutchman, 29 September 2011 - 08:14 PM.

[Arcade4]

I now have the same problem Blade is having with these B2S tables.
I had to change my Escape key to an e key in the latest HPLaunch.
Now when I hit my e key the table goes away but the backglass stays on the monitor.
Hitting e multiple times has no effect.
If I set my launch backglass to false, all it does is not load the backglass at all. (which is logical to me).
How can it ever launch the backglass if it is set to false?
It looks like I should have stayed with the original FPLaunch. Everything worked fine with it.

[CPSNine]

I now have the same problem Blade is having with these B2S tables.
I had to change my Escape key to an e key in the latest HPLaunch.
Now when I hit my e key the table goes away but the backglass stays on the monitor.
Hitting e multiple times has no effect.
If I set my launch backglass to false, all it does is not load the backglass at all. (which is logical to me).
How can it ever launch the backglass if it is set to false?
It looks like I should have stayed with the original FPLaunch. Everything worked fine with it.

I had the problem with scared stiff_B2S, here is the answer I got from blur (and rosve):

like rosve said you have to set launch backglass in table script to false
you have to name the table so that it ends with _b2s
and you have to name exe with same name and put it in same dir

then fplaunch will open and close b2s

if you have table script launching b2s it won't close

It worked for me.

[rosve]

Here is a little experiment for two screen cab users.

A modified bg with LED displays.
Bad Cats Backglass LED

The table script must be changed as follows:

- Add this Sub,

CODE

Sub LedTimer_Timer()
    B2SUpdateLed
End Sub

- Add a new timer called LedTimer. Enable it and set the Intervall to 44.

- Set .Hidden = 1 in BadCats_Init to hide the VPM window.

/Roger

[Arcade4]

I now have the same problem Blade is having with these B2S tables.
I had to change my Escape key to an e key in the latest HPLaunch.
Now when I hit my e key the table goes away but the backglass stays on the monitor.
Hitting e multiple times has no effect.
If I set my launch backglass to false, all it does is not load the backglass at all. (which is logical to me).
How can it ever launch the backglass if it is set to false?
It looks like I should have stayed with the original FPLaunch. Everything worked fine with it.

I had the problem with scared stiff_B2S, here is the answer I got from blur (and rosve):

like rosve said you have to set launch backglass in table script to false
you have to name the table so that it ends with _b2s
and you have to name exe with same name and put it in same dir

then fplaunch will open and close b2s

if you have table script launching b2s it won't close

It worked for me.

Thanks. I will double check my naming scheme.

[bossgp]

Great work on these tables but I can't use them since I use one monitor for my backglass and DMD and it is mounted vertical,
every time I go to start these tables the backglass is around the wrong way, any way to change this ???

[rosve]

Great work on these tables but I can't use them since I use one monitor for my backglass and DMD and it is mounted vertical,
every time I go to start these tables the backglass is around the wrong way, any way to change this ???

The solution is to rotate the display in Windows Graphis properties.

[Flying Dutchman]

Great update rosve .. I used to use the display on a 3rd monitor and use the animation B2S provides on the 2nd monitor.

Is there any way to not being forced to go back to 2 monitors?

Cheers,
FD.

[rosve]

Great update rosve .. I used to use the display on a 3rd monitor and use the animation B2S provides on the 2nd monitor.

Is there any way to not being forced to go back to 2 monitors?

Cheers,
FD.

You can use the "grill-less" version of the backglass just like before. This update only affects the backglass with the grill for 2 monitor cabs.