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[hauntfreaks]

I tested the new materials "in use" on two tables, and it worked.... "crossing fingers"

[Thalamus]

Ok. Either there is something I'm doing wrong or there is something weird with this machine. Can someone please verify ?

 

 

 

 

 

http://vpinball.com/...ds/avatar-mod/#

[fuzzel]

Ok. Either there is something I'm doing wrong or there is something weird with this machine. Can someone please verify ?

 

 

 

 

 

http://vpinball.com/...ds/avatar-mod/#

Looks like you found a bug when deleting a material. The values of the next material after the deleted material is changed to the values of the deleted one

As a workaround: sort the materials by "In Use" column so that all unused materials are at the end of the list. Then you can delete one or multiple unused materials.

Edited by fuzzel, 02 November 2017 - 11:09 PM.

[hauntfreaks]

Looks like you found a bug when deleting a material. The values of the next material after the deleted material is changed to the values of the deleted one

 

 

As a workaround: sort the materials by "In Use" column so that all unused materials are at the end of the list. Then you can delete one or multiple unused materials.

 

NICE!!!

[SPAMP]

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Edited by SPAMP, 03 November 2017 - 12:34 AM.

[fuzzel]

I think the add/remove collection right-click feature could use a little work.  It works fine if you only use it for one selected object, but if you select two or more, even if they already all are in the same collection it does not show that as being the case.  See image below, I selected 2 lights both of which are in the CPULights collection as shown in the upper right, but the pop-up list of collections does not have it checked. 

 

Along with that is the mixed mode usage, if I have several objects, some of which may already be in the collection it doesn't have the check mark as would be expected, but when I do select it it just toggles everything, so that thsoe that were in it are no longer in it and those that were not are.  This is not very helpful.  i would suggest that when the check mark is not indicating they are in the collection that all selected items get added to the collection and if they already are in the collection it leaves them there.  If the check mark indicates they are all in the collection then it removes them all.  of course this is dependent on the first item I mentioned working correctly.

 

With the next update I changed the behavior a bit. When you multi selected elements and all elements share the same collection you can add/remove them to one or more collections. But if you selected multiple elements that belongs to different collections the sub context menu is greyed out and you will only see checked collections that were found for these elements but you can change them. It's not really feasable when you have different collections/elements.

[BorgDog]

 

I think the add/remove collection right-click feature could use a little work.  It works fine if you only use it for one selected object, but if you select two or more, even if they already all are in the same collection it does not show that as being the case.  See image below, I selected 2 lights both of which are in the CPULights collection as shown in the upper right, but the pop-up list of collections does not have it checked. 

 

Along with that is the mixed mode usage, if I have several objects, some of which may already be in the collection it doesn't have the check mark as would be expected, but when I do select it it just toggles everything, so that thsoe that were in it are no longer in it and those that were not are.  This is not very helpful.  i would suggest that when the check mark is not indicating they are in the collection that all selected items get added to the collection and if they already are in the collection it leaves them there.  If the check mark indicates they are all in the collection then it removes them all.  of course this is dependent on the first item I mentioned working correctly.

 

 

With the next update I changed the behavior a bit. When you multi selected elements and all elements share the same collection you can add/remove them to one or more collections. But if you selected multiple elements that belongs to different collections the sub context menu is greyed out and you will only see checked collections that were found for these elements but you can change them. It's not really feasable when you have different collections/elements.

 

 

Not quite sure I understand that last part, but I will wait to see it in the update.  thanks for looking at and addressing it.

[fuzzel]

lol yes it's not that simple. Actually I fine tuned the way how you can use the context menu to add/remove elements to collections. So it's not possible anymore to add/remove multiple elements to/from collections which belong to different collections.

[fuzzel]

rev3242 is up:

 

- fix material delete bug

- change context menu behavior of add/remove to collection: it's possible to add/remove one or multiple elements to other collections. 

  If you selected multiple elements but they are not part of the same collection/or are not part of any collection the context menu is

  greyed out and the check marks tell you which collections were found for these selected elements.

[Thalamus]

Thanks you once again Toxie and Fuzzel. You are amazing. So important and simply put invaluable to us all. Ah, you too DjRobX .. Arngrim ... oh - shit ... etc. etc.

 

Ok, I admit - had a few already. But, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Edited by Thalamus, 03 November 2017 - 09:26 PM.

[fuzzel]

Thanks Thalamus

 

I had left some debug code in the last version. I reuploaded a new version with the same revision number, so everyone who downloaded it please redownload it.

[Thalamus]

Was scratching my head for a moment - re-downloading and thanks once more.

[BorgDog]

I've had a couple crashes since downloading the latest beta.  here is the latest crash files this one I had only 1 table open, had just played a game and went to change some settings when it crashed.

 

https://www.dropbox..../crash.zip?dl=0

[STAT]

Just a small Thing: Sound Manager, if you Play a longer Song, and then you will Play another, the first doesn't stop/end,
also don't stop if you Close SM Window ... you have to quit complete VP, for stop Sounds.
I found this while i browse through "Metal Slug" Sounds, to get one for PinballX Table Audio ...

[jpsalas]

Just a small Thing: Sound Manager, if you Play a longer Song, and then you will Play another, the first doesn't stop/end,
also don't stop if you Close SM Window ... you have to quit complete VP, for stop Sounds.
I found this while i browse through "Metal Slug" Sounds, to get one for PinballX Table Audio ...

Yes, this "bug" or "feature" has been in VP since its origins

[Reaper802]

Noticed something strange today in regards to Vsync and Pre-rendered frames vs. Left Flipper rotate and EOS timing values provided via F11:

 

If Vsync = 1 and Pre =1 in video settings Left Flipper rotate averages 18ms and EOS averages 34ms.

 

If Vsync = 0 and Pre = 0 in video settings Left Flipper rotate averages 5.4ms and EOS averages 16ms.

 

Why would these settings add 3 times more flipper lag on rotation and double EOS timing?

 

I'd love to run with Vsync = 0 and Pre = 0 for the reduced lag but many tables stutter badly with those video settings.  That is using a 980Ti at 4K resolution on the playfield.  Also driving a 720P backglass and the DMD monitor.

 

Is this expected behavior or is it a bug?

[DawdlingDan]

Noticed something strange today in regards to Vsync and Pre-rendered frames vs. Left Flipper rotate and EOS timing values provided via F11:

 

If Vsync = 1 and Pre =1 in video settings Left Flipper rotate averages 18ms and EOS averages 34ms.

 

If Vsync = 0 and Pre = 0 in video settings Left Flipper rotate averages 5.4ms and EOS averages 16ms.

 

Why would these settings add 3 times more flipper lag on rotation and double EOS timing?

 

I'd love to run with Vsync = 0 and Pre = 0 for the reduced lag but many tables stutter badly with those video settings.  That is using a 980Ti at 4K resolution on the playfield.  Also driving a 720P backglass and the DMD monitor.

 

Is this expected behavior or is it a bug?

Expected behaviour. Vsync = 1 (enabled) always increases delay/latency vs Vsync = 0 (disabled). I wouldn't worry about the numbers and just focus on playing cause 18ms is low enough that you won't notice a perceivable delay between pushing the button and the flipper reacting. 50-100ms, you might start to notice.

[fuzzel]

I've had a couple crashes since downloading the latest beta.  here is the latest crash files this one I had only 1 table open, had just played a game and went to change some settings when it crashed.

 

https://www.dropbox..../crash.zip?dl=0

Thanks...fixed with the next update...

[DJRobX]

Just a small Thing: Sound Manager, if you Play a longer Song, and then you will Play another, the first doesn't stop/end,
also don't stop if you Close SM Window ... you have to quit complete VP, for stop Sounds.
I found this while i browse through "Metal Slug" Sounds, to get one for PinballX Table Audio ...

 

LOL, I just noticed the same thing when looking at Stranger Things.    On VPM tables, sound manager is more typically used for short table noises, so when you have things like full songs in there, the lack of a way to stop the test sound can get annoying fast.  

[jpsalas]

 

Just a small Thing: Sound Manager, if you Play a longer Song, and then you will Play another, the first doesn't stop/end,
also don't stop if you Close SM Window ... you have to quit complete VP, for stop Sounds.
I found this while i browse through "Metal Slug" Sounds, to get one for PinballX Table Audio ...

 

LOL, I just noticed the same thing when looking at Stranger Things.    On VPM tables, sound manager is more typically used for short table noises, so when you have things like full songs in there, the lack of a way to stop the test sound can get annoying fast.  

 

 

Don't worry, it has been like this for 17 years