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[rehab]

Very exciting news!

[MajikBubble]

YES!

This is awesome news! Thank you very much Randy!!!!

*chuckles to himself*

[destruk]

I know what "open source" is, but regarding VP, what exactly will this mean? For those that aren't quite aware, what are the major improvements this could bring?

Regarding VP, it means if anyone wanted to fix a bug, make it more compatible, add extra features, port it to native linux, etc, they now have access to free source code with no royalties required, and they can make these changes. VP would need to be linux-native to ever have a hope of emulating Pinball 2000 so you could consider this as a necessary evolution in the design process. My humble thanks go out to Randy too.

[bolt]

What for fantastic news.

[destruk]

SourceForge page is here:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/vp8/


To access a Subversion repository, configure your Subversion client as follows (replace PROJECTNAME with the UNIX group name of the project):

* Hostname: vp8.svn.sourceforge.net
* Port: 443
* Protocol: HTTPS
* Repository Path: /svnroot/vp8

svn co https://vp8.svn.sour...net/svnroot/vp8 vp8

For clients that use a URL string:
https://vp8.svn.sour...net/svnroot/vp8

This will give you access to the full VP8.1 and vp907 source code - latest of both releases.


For write/commit access to check in changes, you'll need to contact me to add you. I don't think we want the repository wiped out by someone who doesn't know what they are doing, and sourceforge won't allow for anonymous commit access either. There are project files for both vsnet 2003 and vsnet 2005. You might need DirectX 7's SDK to compile. Currently my vsnet2005 isn't working, but I can confirm it all compiles fine with vsnet2003. I also uploaded the release binaries to the sourceforge page downloads section.

[IcePagoda]

Yippee!

Here's hoping that it paves the way for native Mac/Linux versions.

[Lord Hiryu]

OMG!!! Great news!!!!

[Mr. Pacman]

This will give you access to the full VP8.1 and vp907 source code - latest of both releases.

9.0.7 ? Is this official?

[destruk]

This will give you access to the full VP8.1 and vp907 source code - latest of both releases.

9.0.7 ? Is this official?

That was the last build I was working on, with the volume fix and a few other very minor changes.

[pinball buzz]

Great news for all - welcome to the future
This is the biggest news in vp...............................period

Buzz

[kruge99]

How long before .PNG graphics support gets added? LoL! ;-) Just kidding folks!


Best Regards,
Todd.

[neoblood]

Really great news
I'd like to see some animated gif support and some other stuff as well.

[Mitchell]

PNG support will cut down the VP table sizes.

I think Black will be piss about this now because he did had the very good source that he wanted to release when Randy didn't reply. So he deleted it instead of holding on to it. I can imaging him banging his head right now.

But I'm glad that Black made the F1 VP table before delete the source. http://members.iinet.../~cleathley/f1/ But it gone now from his website.

[freakofspeed]

WOAH! now that is BIG news!

[TheMcD]

Heh, TBH, I expected something like this would happen. Every time Randy makes some sort of impact these days, it's a big bang.

Anyhoo, would it be possible to make VP9 more compatible with ATI cards now? Just asking, I don't have a clue how to work with code.

The McD

EDIT: Hoo boy. Destruk, whatever you did between .05 and .07 gave me a quite large preformance boost. Just thought I'd mention it.

Edited by TheMcD, 24 February 2010 - 09:03 PM.

[catkins]

Great, fantastic, unexpected news! As a developer, I can't wait to peer into the internals. This will pave the way towards more support on more platforms, which is also good news for folks who prefer not to use Windows (or even non-PC environments).

The only downside I can think of is the potential lack of a consistent release team/schedule. Destruk, will you be the source release manager?

[Mrhide]

w0000t!!

[Practicedummy]

One thing I suggest for whoever develops future versions of VP, is to incorporate Randy's mug on like a splash screen or something, to give him a little tribute every time we open the program.

[Mitchell]

Linux and Apple support would be nice. I'm sure there are some people out there willing to do these kind of support.

[Greywolf]

Could I make a recommendation?

No I'm not volunteering for this.

I don't mean to rain on a parade, here, but...
I think it would be in the project's best interest to have a designated keeper instead of having it a will-ye-nill-ye code rush, i.e.
"There is an official supported version of VP.
Stuff that is submitted and approved for inclusion will also be supported.
Stuff that is not included is not supported."

By "supported" I don't mean that we have tech support on-demand, but if it breaks then VP-Central can take a look at why,
since it was approved for inclusion.

The more hands to help improve VP, the better, so obviously if other people find fixes, SUBMIT THEM for inclusion.

This will keep VP from becoming Pandora's Box of Carnivorous Worms.

...can people see and understand where I'm going with this? I'd hate for VP to splinter off into, say "VP-Greywolf" [i have no such delusions], "VP-Destruk" [nor does he, I think], "VP-thisguy", "UberVP", "HyperVP", "VP Ultimate Black Edition", "VP-Pure [no ROM support]" and crap like that, as what has happened with Linux [DeadRat, SuSE, Ubuntu, Debian, GenToo, etc.]

It's the Cathedral vs. the Bazaar; from what I have seen, it takes elements of both to have a stable system, but ultimately, the Bazaar must be kept in check.